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sean Standard Userer	The VERY COOL! poster and more for Star Trek XI: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/011/index.html No doubt the chosen one is already Michael Giacchino, but my choice is Joel Goldsmith... and if not, than Cliff Eidelman, because his music for Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country in unbeatable and he deserves (more than anyone) to have a second chance.
posted 07-22-2006 02:40 PM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	Wow... I didn't think anymore Star Treks were going to be made anytime soon. You already named my top two choices, but here's who I'd like to see: - Joel Goldsmith (without a doubt) - Cliff Eidelman - Dennis McCarthy - Shirley Walker (that would be interesting) - Elliot Goldenthal
posted 07-22-2006 03:27 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	Eidelman or Goldenthal would be good. Davis could be great, if he keeps it "experimental" (if that's what the movie needs). Or get Poledouris out of his exile.
posted 07-22-2006 03:39 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Joel McNeely! But Giacchino's already got this one I'd guess. --Brian [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 07-22-2006]
posted 07-22-2006 03:48 PM PT (US)

Vinylscrubber Standard Userer	I agree that McNeely would probably do a terrific job on a STAR TREK film, but, as mentioned above, it's no doubt going to go to Giacchino . . . which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
posted 07-22-2006 07:42 PM PT (US)

wilbur gray Non-Standard Userer	Is Leonard Rosenman still composing?I always thought his Star Trek IV music was a good change of pace for the films,with a nice use of the original theme at the epilogue.That said,Giacchino should do a great job,provided Paramount doesn't juice him out of the assignment.
posted 07-22-2006 07:45 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	It's interesting to me that Star Trek journeys practically unscathed by the different themes that are written for the Enterprise and her crew. From Goldsmith's unforgettable approach and thematic material for The Motion Picture; to Horner's equally powerful and swashbuckling appraoch to The Wrath Of Khan ("Genesis Countdown" being Horner's finest hour) and The Search For Spock; and Rosenman's memorable themes in The Voyage Home ("Home Again" and "The Whaler" are stunning pieces); onto Eidelman's inventive and unique, operatic take on Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country ("The Battle For Peace" is an action packed highlight for me). Star Trek does just fine with changing themes and there's no loss of consistency because of that (except, of course, with Enterprise). (I don't know how well the Star Wars or Indiana Jones films would cope with different composers conjuring new themes for each picture. At least the Alexander Courage fanfare remains a bench-mark for all of Star Trek.) Even though Giacchino is nowhere near the top of my personal picks for composer, I'm confident he'll do the franchise justice. IMO, the big problem with his music comes from his action writing, on Lost and M:I�3, as it comes off as musical wallpaper, unmemorable, lacking flare or propulsion; and Star Trek is filled with some of the best action music ever written, so that's where I have a problem in Giacchino scoring the picture.
posted 07-22-2006 10:42 PM PT (US)

Kevin Standard Userer	I shudder to think of a Trek film now. It's way too soon for another one to come out, and I think Paramount's so desperate for a good movie that they are willing to compromise to put a Trek film out. Having said that, let's get Ron Jones!! New movie + a tie to the old, TNG days = "the best of both worlds." K
posted 07-23-2006 06:38 AM PT (US)

Kevin Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: IMO, the big problem with his music comes from his action writing, on Lost and M:I�3, as it comes off as musical wallpaper, unmemorable, lacking flare or propulsion; and Star Trek is filled with some of the best action music ever written, so that's where I have a problem in Giacchino scoring the picture. That's the same problem I have thinking about Dennis McCarthy. To me, his score for "Generations" was boring. K
posted 07-23-2006 06:41 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Kevin: You're right, McCarthy's score to Generations is boring and lacks any staying power; it's nothing compared to the other Trek film scores. Too bad, too, because his music on the TV series was excellent. The one cue I thought he pulled off excellently never made it to the album, either: The scene where A Clockwork Orange destroys the Armagosa Observatory with a deadly solar prob and kidnaps Reading Rainbow in the process; exciting stuff! But, yeah, overall, boring!
posted 07-23-2006 10:58 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	It's not the most enjoyable Trek score on CD, but it's still good, and it does work very well in the movie. In fact, it frequently reminds me of Rosenman (whose own Trek score is generally very underrated as well).
posted 07-23-2006 11:13 AM PT (US)

Lancelot Standard Userer	I heard Hans Zimmer was doing it...
posted 07-23-2006 07:40 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	Giacchino or Tyler would be interesting. So would Goldenthal.
posted 07-23-2006 08:21 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Lancelot: I heard Hans Zimmer was doing it... And where-o-where did you hear that? Hans Zimmer would be my third choice to score the film! That's for damn sure.
posted 07-23-2006 09:00 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	I really dig the retro-feel to that teaser poster; I know Sean and I will be talking about it now that I'm back home. Giacchino is a fine choice, but he does need to tune up his action chops as previously mentioned. quote: Originally posted by Lancelot: I heard Hans Zimmer was doing it... Isn't the Kraut rumored to score every project before it finds a right-ful composer? NP> Tan Dun's Hero (**/***) [Message edited by nuts_score on 07-24-2006]
posted 07-24-2006 12:49 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Giacchino's action music might work fine within the picture of the likes of Lost and M:I-3 (I'm not mentioning his video games scores, because that's not exactly scoring-to-picture), but for Star Trek there's nothing on his CV that makes me think he's got what it takes, and his action music isn't all that appealing on CD. I think he might be able to pull off a good emotional theme for Trek, yet in his emotional themes for the already mentioned scores by him are nearly interchangeable. Even within Star Trek, Jerry Goldsmith wrote new, diverse, and touching themes for each of his scores; something Giacchino has yet to prove he's capable of. There's a part of me that think he might be able to pull it off, but I feel there are other more worthy composers, like Joel Goldsmith and Cliff Eidelman, both of whom outclass Giacchino in film scoring and would be better equipped for Star Trek.
posted 07-24-2006 07:15 AM PT (US)

Thor Standard Userer	Well, I never thought Howard Shore was up to the task of doing LORD OF THE RINGS either, but lo and behold! So I'd say Giacchino would be as interesting as anyone. Give him a chance! Then again, I'm not a Trekkie and don't care particularly about another STAR TREK film anyway. They may do whatever they want with it. NP: "Come Back and Stay" (Bad Boys Blue) [Message edited by Thor on 07-24-2006]
posted 07-24-2006 07:59 AM PT (US)

Foobsie Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: The VERY COOL! poster and more for Star Trek XI: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/011/index.html No doubt the chosen one is already Michael Giacchino, but my choice is Joel Goldsmith... and if not, than Cliff Eidelman, because his music for Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country in unbeatable and he deserves (more than anyone) to have a second chance. Basil Poledouris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted 07-24-2006 02:14 PM PT (US)

gkgyver Standard Userer	James Horner !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted 07-25-2006 06:13 AM PT (US)

Thor Standard Userer	Bonnie Tyler!!!!
posted 07-25-2006 08:15 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Alexandre Desplat . . . . hmmmmmm . . .
posted 07-25-2006 08:34 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Standard Userer	Well, it's early days yet and nobody's quite sure what the film is going to be about. Yeah, I'm not at all excited about yet another Trek movie, but if it does come to pass (and especially if it's a "throwback" kind of thing), I would second gk's suggestion of James Horner. Now, I don't know if you (gk) were posting that in the same vein as Thor's "Bonnie Tyler" etc, but I'm straight-faced here. I can imagine Horner turning in a completely appropriate score. He will be able to reference his earlier Trek works (and this time take no flak).
posted 07-27-2006 03:24 PM PT (US)

JoeinAr Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by sean: The VERY COOL! poster and more for Star Trek XI: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/011/index.html No doubt the chosen one is already Michael Giacchino, but my choice is Joel Goldsmith... and if not, than Cliff Eidelman, because his music for Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country in unbeatable and he deserves (more than anyone) to have a second chance. surely you jest, very cool poster, its absolutely a joke. its pathetic. this is a movie that should not be made.
posted 07-27-2006 08:22 PM PT (US)

Lancelot Standard Userer	We'll run all decisions by you in the future. The world will improve steadily. [Message edited by Lancelot on 07-27-2006]
posted 07-27-2006 08:48 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Lancelot: We'll run all decisions by you in the future. The world will improve steadily. Agreed! JoeinAr, we've got your back, brother!
posted 07-27-2006 09:47 PM PT (US)

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