It really is two styles in one and it keeps jarring back and forth between williams orchestration and ottman.
Not a good wedding.
Damned should have been Williams all the way or NO Superman at all.

I am not bashing Ottman. It's just that the two styles collide and switch back and forth.
Most noticeable in track 9 or is it the editing?

It's like making a modern day score a la Trevor Rabin, with Waxman woven in. (Golden Age)

FoobsZ

use a newsreader to extract the VBR mp3's :-)

This by no means implies not to buy the CD. Show your appreciation for the art and industry and go buy a legit album.

Also my hat tips off to the script writers of the original Superman. What drama, what depth and emotion. Care has been taken with every dialogue, sentence and sequence.
It's almost 'Shakespearean'. (Jor'El, The Council, General Zod's speech "You will bown down before me Jor'El... and then one day... your heirs!"
*chills*
Marlon Brando (RIP) definetaly steels the show. After that it is all downhill with the comic nuances, although the emotional moments with the Clarks and the Fortress of Solitude stand out has highlights.

William's score echos that depth, warmth and drama and moves along like silk on the screen. It's classical and still unmatched!

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Originally posted by Foobsie:
Upon popping the original Superman DVD in my player and watching it.. I am still amazed at the level of technological marvel that Richard Donner employed to create Krypton.

Also my hat tips off to the script writers of the original Superman. What drama, what depth and emotion. Care has been taken with every dialogue, sentence and sequence.
It's almost 'Shakespearean'. (Jor'El, The Council, General Zod's speech "You will bown down before me Jor'El... and then one day... your heirs!"
*chills*
Marlon Brando (RIP) definetaly steels the show. After that it is all downhill with the comic nuances, although the emotional moments with the Clarks and the Fortress of Solitude stand out has highlights.

William's score echos that depth, warmth and drama and moves along like silk on the screen. It's classical and still unmatched!

FoobsZ

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Yeah, I caught back up with the Donner's extended cut and worked my way through Richard Lester's great follow-up. I'm greatly anticipating Donner's cut of Superman II. I've been known to have mixed reactions to Donner's original film, and while I still hold some small grudges as a life-long Supes fan, the film can still deliver the chills. Simply the best superhero film made; and one of the most technolgically-advanced movies of its time. For an added treat, watch the film with Donner's and comic artist Tom Mankiewicz's commentary. It's great nostalgia for the two creative heavyweights; and it'll give you great insight into some of those dialog congrats you have to give out. It seems as though Donner was an amazing saving grace for the film.

"I hope this little incident doesn't put you off to flying. Statistically speaking, it's still the safest way to travel."

And, as a side note, no actor - EVER - will be able to top Christopher Reeve's performance: phsyically, emotionally, and charasmatically. He is the soul-embodiment of that character on the Silver Screen. He brings an amazing amout of magic, spirit, and enthusiasm to the role. It's remarkable to watch today and it will be interesting to compare to Brandon Routh's Man of Steel. That shot in the extended cut after Lois dies and Superman flies up to "alter history" (as he's told not to do by his birth father, Colonel Kurtz ), as he screams in rage, is the single best emotional reaction in any fantasy/sci-fi film.

Next week can't come soon enough.

NP> Michael Giacchino's Medal of Honor: Frontline (*****/*****)

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And, as a side note, no actor - EVER - will be able to top Christopher Reeve's performance: phsyically, emotionally, and charasmatically. He is the soul-embodiment of that character on the Silver Screen. He brings an amazing amout of magic, spirit, and enthusiasm to the role. It's remarkable to watch today and it will be interesting to compare to Brandon Routh's Man of Steel. That shot in the extended cut after Lois dies and Superman flies up to "alter history" (as he's told not to do by his birth father, Colonel Kurtz ), as he screams in rage, is the single best emotional reaction in any fantasy/sci-fi film.

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First off, with such a high standard set by you (nuts_score) for Christopher Reeve's portrayal of Superman, there's just no point in trying to compare him with Brandon Routh: you'll simply be dissapointed.

Just set it apart. sketch seems to be very concerned about John Ottman's music as compared to John Williams's music: you just have to seperate the two and everything will be A.O.K.; Ottman's score is very good and his new Superman theme is a treat to my ears.

Thanks for the advice! I admit it's difficult to set aside Williams' music when Ottman leans so heavily on the classic themes, but I'll do my best to pretend those great melodies aren't there so I can accept this score for the turd it is.

For what it's worth, while I'm not sure I like the truncation of the Main Title- but until I see the film, there's no way I'm going to dismiss Ottman's work. I like what he's done with X2, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and Fantastic Four; it's not inherent that this one will be a guarantee. But I'm on "Rough Flight" now and so far, it's far and away some of Ottman's best work I've heard- and that's all the parts not specific to Williams' preceding work.

If anything, I'll take it over the "adaptions" done for Superman II and III. While I had them on vinyl as a kid and enjoyed listening to them then, I've heard them a little since by other means. Sadly, they, of course, don't hold up as well as the original. Nothing may ever hold a candle to it- but there's nothing saying a good attempt doesn't merit some attention.

I wouldn't want to disappoint you. From what I can see so far you're a patronizing, condescending ******* with bad taste.

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From what I can see so far you're a patronizing, condescending ******* with bad taste.

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It's true, I only like bad music.

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
In case anyone's interested in hearing the score in sh*t quality, iTunes has it a week early. Not that you guys need me to tell you this, but unless you're totally desperate, do not buy it from iTunes. You'd think that they would've changed their 128 policy by now, but whatever.

Shaun

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This reminds me heavily of Don Davis' riff on the Jurassic Park themes for JP3. The "modernization" of Williams is fairly comical and annoying to boot. Add that to the fact that Ottman is a mediocre composer whose only strength -- his modern orchestrations -- is the reason this score doesn't work, and we have a middling score on album.

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
In case anyone's interested in hearing the score in sh*t quality, iTunes has it a week early. Not that you guys need me to tell you this, but unless you're totally desperate, do not buy it from iTunes. You'd think that they would've changed their 128 policy by now, but whatever.

Shaun

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Interesting that you bring up the quality issue. I read today at ilounge.com that Apple has released iTunes Producer 1.4 which "now encodes music in Apple Lossless format, which produces larger audio files and will increase upload time.”

Interesting...

-Erik-