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    Topic:   WTC

     Ripley06
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    Don't mean to be a "double poster" but I posted an item in the Trailer section cause I just saw the WTC trailer.

    Movie aside, that music in the trailer I thought was incredible.

    I don't know if its possible to detach the score from such a movie that's got so much actual, still-topical history around it, but I really would love to own the piece of score used in the trailer. Anyone agree? Anyone know if that's part of the score, or composed specifically for the trailer?

    Again, sorry for the double post. It's just been months - maybe a year or more, even - since I've been that moved, excited, thrilled about a piece of movie music.

    Mills

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    posted 05-18-2006 01:27 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    I don't know the music, but I think its really sad that people are trying to take advantage of the loss of life and emotions of the people who watched it all happen just to make money.

    It would have been less obvious if they waited at least 30 to 40 years.

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    posted 05-18-2006 06:55 PM PT (US)     

     sean
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    HAHAHA!!! The music blows! It's the campiest and worst piece of junk you could ever attach to a trailer like this: The film, by the way, looks stupid and the special effects are really bad. Not to mention the dumb shots of slow motion over-actor Nicholas Cage running to the towers; he and Mark Ruffalo look like goofballs.

    To add to what TimT wrote about making money off this massacre: There's product placement in the trailer! As the shadow of one of the planes that hits the WTC passes over New York streets it flies over a poster for Zoolander! I don't care if there actually was a godamned Zoolander poster there in real life, it's ridiculous. Zoolander, it should be noted, is also a Paramount release—the same studio who's putting out Wolrd Trade Centre. Maybe, just maybe (and that's a stretch), like Tim wrote, it'd be less obvious 40 years from now, yet still just as stupid.

    Monkey Butler Oliver Stone has really done it this time, proving once again that he is the worst American filmmaker, next to Michael Bay, around.

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    posted 05-18-2006 07:57 PM PT (US)     

     Bagtatta
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    The music in the trailer was very good...I have to heavily disagree with Sean and agree with original poster. Very good stuff. The trailer aswell was quite good.

    - Just because they're making a movie about WTC doesn't mean they're trying to cash in on it. What if Oliver Stone is really passionate about the subject. Steven Spielberg is passionate about WW2 and he didn't CASH in on SPR or Schindlers List. The time the motion picture is being made has nothing to do with it, it's where there's passion involved in it. And NO, it's not to soon IMHO.

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    posted 05-18-2006 08:26 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Bagtatta:

    - Just because they're making a movie about WTC doesn't mean they're trying to cash in on it.



    Cashing In, is the way of the world. And this is a deliberate attempt.

    [Message edited by TimT on 05-18-2006]

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    posted 05-18-2006 10:56 PM PT (US)     

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    Sean - Most studios normaly don't have the rights to display posters and advertisements from other movies in their own movies. Zoolander was coming out around that time and was probably actually there being advertised... It's not product placement in the least. As for Oliver Stone... I used to like him... but then a little film called Any Given Sunday came out and that just made me confused. Then Alexander, which just made me almost vommit, that is until I shut it off... At least Michael Bay's movies have a popcorn quality to them.

    As for it being to soon, I don't agree with that. But I do agree with it being to soon for 2 movies to come out. I would've held off on United 93, as all the facts are still not clear. But World Trade Center appears to just be 2 guys telling their story. I will say the studio is doing it for money, but I don't think many of the film makers are there for the money.

    Clayton

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    posted 05-19-2006 11:02 AM PT (US)     

     Justin
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    Well said Clayton! Totally agree!

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    posted 05-19-2006 12:15 PM PT (US)     

     Ripley06
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    For whatever it's worth, I've been researching this movie a bit since viewing the (I still believe) very striking trailer.

    The men being depicted in the film gave - or, if they passed away (my apologies, I honestly don't know the full story behind this particular group), their families did - their full consent/sold their rights toward the making of WTC.

    No doubt, the movie will set off much commentary and controversy in the coming months. I didn't think it was necc. too soon for UNITED 93, but the straightforward docudrama approach (from the trailer and what I'd read/heard) seemed so real that I honestly didn't think I could take it - and that's not meant out of disrespect to anyone who lost their lives or loved ones on 9/11.

    Anyway, for me, with re: to the WTC trailer, I still can't get that music out of my head.

    Peace, ya'll -

    Mills S. (my old log-in name; somehow, I can't long in with it anymore, but dagnabbit, I'm stickin' with it)

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    posted 05-19-2006 12:29 PM PT (US)     

     Bond1965
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    I believe the music in the trailer is original music by Craig Armstrong who is scoring the picture. At least it sounds like him to me.

    James

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    posted 05-19-2006 04:52 PM PT (US)     

     sean
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    quote:
    Originally posted by scoreguy16:
    Sean - Most studios normaly don't have the rights to display posters and advertisements from other movies in their own movies. Zoolander was coming out around that time and was probably actually there being advertised... It's not product placement in the least.

    Sure it is, Clayton. There's no way around that, even for the sake of being accurate, it's totally ridiculous. Everything in a movie is deliberate and placing a dumb Zoolander poster in that (VFX) shot was an idiotic decision and not needed, whatsoever. So, if you were Oliver Stone, would you seriously want to put a goofy Zoolander poster in that shot? Don't be insane.

    I don't think it's too soon at all: Studios should be pumping out 9/11 movies like there's no tomorrow, like it's no one's business, like it's going out of style ... but they should have started with a "Let's Roll" action movie starring Chuck Norris on his missile-launching motorbike; maybe having something to do with Delta Force, too, and scored once more by Alan Silvestri! I'd pay real money for that.

    And Clayton, you should always "say" that studios are producing movies for the money, there's no other or greater incentive than that.

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    posted 05-19-2006 09:44 PM PT (US)     

     nuts_score
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    quote:
    Originally posted by sean:

    I don't think it's too soon at all: Studios should be pumping out 9/11 movies like there's no tomorrow, like it's no one's business, like it's going out of style ... but they should have started with a "Let's Roll" action movie starring Chuck Norris on his missile-launching motorbike; maybe having something to do with Delta Force, too, and scored once more by Alan Silvestri! I'd pay real money for that.

    THAT would be the movie of the summer . . . but only if Seagal backed it up with Under Siege 3: I Put a Jihad on You (with a marvelous Klaus Badelt score to boot!).

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    posted 05-20-2006 12:55 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by nuts_score:
    [b]THAT would be the movie of the summer . . . but only if Seagal backed it up with Under Siege 3: I Put a Jihad on You (with a marvelous Klaus Badelt score to boot!).[/B]

    THAT IS WOULD BE THE GREATEST ACTION MOVIE... EVER!!! Now all they need is Jan De Bont to direct it! Then take the score to Con Air, and add a duduk or whatever that instrument is, and some howling vocal parts, and you've got yourself a movie!

    But, getting back to the whole Zoolander thing, there might be some weird reason for it being there. Like they were having a discussion on how hot Ben Stiller is in leather or something, then this fake shaddow of a plane flies over it. You never know, maybe it wont even be in the movie.

    Clayton

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    posted 05-20-2006 11:55 AM PT (US)     

     sean
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    nuts, I'm sure Chancellor Hitl-- ... I mean Heir Klaus would do a marvelous job, especially after his groundbreaking work on Brokeback Poseidon.

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    posted 05-20-2006 11:56 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by sean:
    nuts, I'm sure Chancellor Hitl-- ... I mean Heir Klaus would do a marvelous job, especially after his groundbreaking work on Brokeback Poseidon.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Obviously, this is one of those "LOL" moments.

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    posted 05-20-2006 02:42 PM PT (US)     

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    Okay, I caught the trailer on a second viewing of DaVinci (I know, I know: "Nutz, I thought you didn't care for it?!" I didn't, put it seems everyone I take on dates wants to see this thing) and this looks like another Ollie Stone embarrassment along the lines of Alexander. It just doesn't look that inspiring and seems to have a forced "patriotism-for-the-sake-of-patriotism" feel to it; almost as if the Bush administration paid for this themselves. And if that music in the trailer wasn't done by Craig Armstrong, he needs to consider copyright infringement.

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    posted 05-21-2006 12:52 AM PT (US)     

     Christian Kühn
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    The trailer music reminds me strongly of Christopher Franke's work on the Babylon 5 episode, Sleeping in Light. The track "Dying Station" in particular has this theme in it.

    CK

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    posted 05-29-2006 10:54 AM PT (US)     

     Ripley06
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    I actually finally figured out what the music in the trailer is from - thanks, as usual, to the fabulous Soundtrack.net trailer section. It's from the score to LIFE OF DAVID GALE, a film that I utterly despised. Man, if you'd've given me 500 guesses, I never would've guessed that film - I hated it so much that I remember the music as being completely forgettable. But the piece of music is so striking in WTC I dunno how I missed it.

    Anyway, for those like me who thought the music was great, there ya go.

    Still interested to see what Craig Armstrong does with it, though, as I usually find his stuff to be terrific.

    Mills

    [Message edited by Ripley06 on 05-29-2006]

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    posted 05-29-2006 11:03 AM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    I saw the WTC trailer last night and also thought the music was lovely and tragic. Glad to know where it came from.

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    posted 05-29-2006 01:53 PM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Hey, I'd like to add that the site Ripley quotes also shows that some of that music is also original music by Craig Armstrong. I do like this composer's music.

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