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rkeaveney

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Hi all - I've added five clips from John Powell's upcoming X-MEN: THE LAST STAND score to the Cinemusic blog, because the score has me excited. Check out the clips (they are for the most part different than the ones currently at FSM). Hope you enjoy them.
http://www.cinemusic.net/Ryan
posted 05-16-2006 10:54 PM PT (US) 
sean

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Ryan, those clips are killer! Especially "The Last Stand." I can't wait to get this score.[Message edited by sean on 05-16-2006]
posted 05-16-2006 11:12 PM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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Hmmmm, color me impressed. I knew Powell had it in him after the kiddie-fare of Robots and Ice Age Too. And with Varese releasing this bad mother I'm sure we'll get a good addition to our collection (damn you Decca for not giving Kamen's score what it deserved!).On another note, Sean called me out on my hypocrasy earlier this evening because we've had some discussions on Ottman and a little indie called Superman Returns he's scoring (and editing). I'm not a big Ottman fan at all and apparently I remarked that John hasn't written a single note that I've been impressed by (that's right, not even The Usual Suspects, Apt Pupil or House of Wax or X2); but old Sean was quick on his heels to remind me of the unanimous praise I showered upon his fun Fantastic Four score last summer. My apologies.
P.S. - I also think his Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang score has some wonderful themes in it. It just goes to show you the pandering duality of someone as nuts as me.

posted 05-16-2006 11:49 PM PT (US) 
HadrianD

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Wow!!! Just WOW!!!!!I want this score yesterday!!!
posted 05-17-2006 07:52 AM PT (US) 
Kris

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You got me all excited now. I won't be able to listen to the previews untill friday. Can you at least tell me what the music is like?
posted 05-17-2006 08:52 AM PT (US) 
gkgyver

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Don't get all hyped up over this ... I can't hear the "WOW" in there, to be honest.
posted 05-17-2006 10:34 AM PT (US) 
sean

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quote:
Originally posted by gkgyver:
Don't get all hyped up over this ... I can't hear the "WOW" in there, to be honest.That's just an opinion of yours that you don't share with the rest of us who posted here. Your loss.
posted 05-17-2006 12:35 PM PT (US) 
gkgyver

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Did I say otherwise?But thanks for the irrelevant wisecrack nevertheless.
posted 05-17-2006 04:35 PM PT (US) 
moontrekker

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WOW, like WOW, like Double WOW, like Triple WOW, Oh and did I say WOW!!!sd

and WOWs aside, this score Rocks, I cant wait.
he he he, I just love this stuff.[Message edited by moontrekker on 05-17-2006]
posted 05-17-2006 08:41 PM PT (US) 
Dinko

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quote:
Originally posted by gkgyver:
Don't get all hyped up over this ... I can't hear the "WOW" in there, to be honest.Here's an old theory: everything else this year sucked so much, that what's probably a very decent film score is now proclaimed the best thing to hit humanity since the wheel.
posted 05-18-2006 08:39 AM PT (US) 
Marselus

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quote:
Originally posted by Dinko:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by gkgyver:
[b]Don't get all hyped up over this ... I can't hear the "WOW" in there, to be honest. <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>Here's an old theory: everything else this year sucked so much, that what's probably a very decent film score is now proclaimed the best thing to hit humanity since the wheel.[/B]
Hereīs a new theory: I donīt know if it will be the best thing to hit humanity since the wheel but this score is far more than decent IMHO....this score is BIG; if you have enjoyed the clips, then be ready, sit comfortably and, above all, pump up the volume ītil your neighbours call the police.
Itīs for sure Powellīs biggest effort: powerful, brassy, epic, big themes, amazing choral work. At least Powell has unleashed (all?) his power. Congratulations!NP X Men 3
posted 05-18-2006 11:44 AM PT (US) 
sean

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quote:
Originally posted by gkgyver:
Did I say otherwise?But thanks for the irrelevant wisecrack nevertheless.
My pleasure.
posted 05-18-2006 01:02 PM PT (US) 
alan_manc

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Is it just me, or does Attack On Alcatraz sound like it should be from Superman Returns?? That rythm that opens it and continues through-out....
posted 05-20-2006 06:13 PM PT (US) 
rolltide1017
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Originally posted by alan_manc:
Is it just me, or does Attack On Alcatraz sound like it should be from Superman Returns?? That rythm that opens it and continues through-out....
That was my thought as well. I walked into the room and my wife (big X-Men fan) was playing the clip and I actually asked if it was from the new Superman score. I was relieved when she said no because I really don't like this score.posted 05-21-2006 06:11 PM PT (US) 
Bagtatta

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The score for X-Men 3 is VERY loud..If you like fast, loud action scores check it out. As someone mentioned it earlier that the music feels "Epic." I have to agree..it feels epic, but not drama epic (LOTR..) Does that make one bit of sense to anyone? I don't know..it makes sense to me, =P. But anyways, definately check out the CD, it does feel epic and it's very fast..I'm loving it, but then again I love these loud fast scores.Now Playing: X-Men 3, ****/*****
posted 05-21-2006 09:46 PM PT (US) 
Foobsie
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It is indeed very loud. The loudest of all three, while at best the slower tracks show john powell's more dramatic writing powers.Phoenix Rising is incredible.
Going to watch the movie this Thursday when it comes out in the Netherlands. I am excited to at least hear the new theme in conjunction with the movie.
So will Leech nullify Dark Phoenix' powers?
Is he actually the temporary cure to her all universe consuming power?
Is Jean Grey really dead and is it her funeral we see in the trailer? Or Beast?FoobsZ
posted 05-23-2006 04:11 PM PT (US) 
Dinko

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quote:
Originally posted by Foobsie:
Is Jean Grey really dead and is it her funeral we see in the trailer? Or Beast?FoobsZ
Or Professor X's.
posted 05-23-2006 08:33 PM PT (US) 
Widescreen
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Way to ruin it for those who won't see it until Friday.For what its worth, it is the best of the series of films. It takes risks and isn't afraid to be dark and create the necessary dramatic tension necessary. It's also funny, action-packed, and quite a thrill ride. It's not as deliberately paced as Bryan Singer's films tend to be, but it is certainly satisfying in every way possible as a film. As an X-Men property, well, that's for the died in the wool X-Men fan to decide. And I will be eager to see their responses online.
And whatever you do when you see it, stay through the end credits. Don't ask me why, I hate spoilers and refuse to give anything away.
Also - everyone who speculated by way of the sample clips what the Powell "X-Men Theme" was or what any thematic material could be derived from those clips got it all wrong. I got the score and went to a free advance screening today (thanks to getting a pass by sheer luck last Saturday). What I can tell you is that the music is extremely powerful to me after what I saw. This is solid and uncomprimising entertainment to me; once it takes its chances, it doesn't apologize for them, as opposed to what I see in some other comic book franchise properties.
Excellent work all around.
[Message edited by Widescreen on 05-23-2006]
posted 05-23-2006 09:39 PM PT (US) 
Alexborn007

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Saw the movie this past evening. I think X2 was a more solid all around film, but this is one heck of a ride and a very entertaining entry. Story wise, it took a few unexpected turns. The action scenes are also paced well and it never seemed to drag. To put it succinctly, I wish they were making more!Powell's score was equally great. Epic and propulsive, it really added a lot. There is one moment in the film where the X-Men theme is used to just thrilling effect. It reminded me of how exciting it was when Elfman's Batman theme was used the same way.
I'll spare the more specific details on that for now...but do make sure to see it Friday!

EDIT: Just for the record, I have next to no knowledge of the comic continuity, so personal experience may vary!
[Message edited by Alexborn007 on 05-24-2006]
posted 05-23-2006 10:13 PM PT (US) 
Dinko

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Spoil this much for me (by email - see profile - if you don't want to spoil it here):
Did they turn what was originally a Cyclops/Phoenix story into a Phoenix/Wolverine story?
posted 05-23-2006 10:45 PM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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Hmmm, as a life-long X-Men fan, some of these positive reviews actually have me worried. I've read all of the script reviews from people who know the universe and know the continuity and I can't help but agree with them; there might be certain liberties taken with the franchise that will seriously dimish some fans' faith in how Marvel treats its properties from here out. I'll still have my ass in a seat come Friday and - as always - I'll hope for the best and keep in mind that this is an adaptation of source material, but the fanboy in me is worried (and worried about Superman too; Silver Age Clark/Supes needs to stay in the Silver Age, as a community we've moved past the notion that Clark has to be a bumbling idiot to take attention away from his alter-ego. And, Quentin Tarantino, Superman is Clark Kent; not the other way around. It is Clark who was raised by Jonathon and Martha Kent. They are the ones who taught him what it is to be good. Superman is his identity to protect the innocent; it's the resource-fulness of his powers. Kal-el is the last son of Krypton, and that's all. Clark Kent is the man and the hero.)Sorry for nerd-inducing rant.
posted 05-24-2006 12:09 AM PT (US) 
sean

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quote:
Originally posted by nuts_score:
Hmmm, as a life-long X-Men fan, some of these positive reviews actually have me worried. I've read all of the script reviews from people who know the universe and know the continuity and I can't help but agree with them; there might be certain liberties taken with the franchise that will seriously dimish some fans' faith in how Marvel treats its properties from here out. I'll still have my ass in a seat come Friday and - as always - I'll hope for the best and keep in mind that this is an adaptation of source material, but the fanboy in me is worried (and worried about Superman too; Silver Age Clark/Supes needs to stay in the Silver Age, as a community we've moved past the notion that Clark has to be a bumbling idiot to take attention away from his alter-ego. And, Quentin Tarantino, Superman is Clark Kent; not the other way around. It is Clark who was raised by Jonathon and Martha Kent. They are the ones who taught him what it is to be good. Superman is his identity to protect the innocent; it's the resource-fulness of his powers. Kal-el is the last son of Krypton, and that's all. Clark Kent is the man and the hero.)Sorry for nerd-inducing rant.
I'm d-runk, but I don't understand you fanboys. Ya'll wanna see what you already know, just on the big screen: seems silly. It's like wanting to see every page of a novel you read in a movie, without anything new or different. Anyway, Powell's score is wicked!!!
posted 05-24-2006 01:12 AM PT (US) 
Dinko

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There are ways to adapt original source material such that it at least remains faithful to the spirit of the source even if it takes a whole new approach.The X-Men franchise so far has not been very faithful in many fundamental respects and ends up contradicting its own internal logic.
Just take Cyclops. Originally, he's supposed to be a good combat leader. Not exactly very bright, but good in action. In X-Men 1, he tells Storm to fry Magneto and Magneto gives him a sermon on how that can't be done.
Cyclops is still presented in the movies as a leader, but he doesn't do much, and what he does is always retarded. He reacts late, destroys stuff by mistake, etc.
There have been enough crazy twists and turns in the X-Men continuum that anyone following that is by now used to bizarre choices on the editors' part. I think we are entitled to expect that the movies at least remain faithful to some basic concepts if not each word. For example, the Dark Phoenix Saga has been completely remodled relative to the books. We'll see how it holds up in X3, but the end of X2 was pretty close in spirit to the Uncanny X-Men story even though the actual events are radically different.
posted 05-24-2006 09:33 AM PT (US) 
sean

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Dinko, I was a big X-Men comic fan when I was kid, but can't remember a thing about it now (other than that I wish Apocalypse were in the movies!!!). And just looking at them as films, I think they hold up pretty well; X3, to me, looks like the best of all: I don't really understand the huge amount of hatred the film is receiving on the Net, especially from AintItCool, it's totally bizarre.On my second listen of Powell's score now, and I think it's incredible. It's easily the best of the three X-Men film scores, especially with the trio of tracks at the end of the CD that totally steal the show: "The Battle of The Cure," "Phoenix Rises," and "The Last Stand." John Powell's best, IMO.
posted 05-24-2006 09:52 AM PT (US) 
Norman McCay

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quote:
Originally posted by nuts_score:
And, Quentin Tarantino, Superman is Clark Kent; not the other way around. It is Clark who was raised by Jonathon and Martha Kent. They are the ones who taught him what it is to be good. Superman is his identity to protect the innocent; it's the resource-fulness of his powers. Kal-el is the last son of Krypton, and that's all. Clark Kent is the man and the hero.) Sorry for nerd-inducing rant.
Yeah! Ever since that lame-o and inaccurate reference of Superman in Kill Bill, I was the only one who thought that Tarantino obviously didn't understand the character of Clark Kent. It's to finally realize that I'm not alone in that thought.
posted 05-24-2006 12:39 PM PT (US) 
Norman McCay

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quote:
Originally posted by nuts_score:
And, Quentin Tarantino, Superman is Clark Kent; not the other way around. It is Clark who was raised by Jonathon and Martha Kent. They are the ones who taught him what it is to be good. Superman is his identity to protect the innocent; it's the resource-fulness of his powers. Kal-el is the last son of Krypton, and that's all. Clark Kent is the man and the hero.) Sorry for nerd-inducing rant.
Yeah! Ever since that lame-o and inaccurate reference of Superman in Kill Bill, I was the only one who thought that Tarantino obviously didn't understand the character of Clark Kent. It's to finally realize that I'm not alone in that thought.
posted 05-24-2006 12:40 PM PT (US) 
gkgyver

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Just saw the film. I'm not familiar with the Dark Phoenix story (anymore), but I have to say that it was really one hell of a ride.My only complaint would be that the story needed to breathe more at certain points (you'll know after you saw it).
Powell's score may be his "best" yet, if by "best" you mean "epic", but I still don't think it's that outstanding. My perception is that today's young composers tend to "overcompose" (is that a word?) their scores. They think the more complex the music, the better, which is of course not true.
And when the film produces loads of noise, the last thing I want my score to do is packing some more noise on top of that.posted 05-24-2006 06:12 PM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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quote:
Originally posted by Norman McCay:
Yeah! Ever since that lame-o and inaccurate reference of Superman in Kill Bill, I was the only one who thought that Tarantino obviously didn't understand the character of Clark Kent. It's to finally realize that I'm not alone in that thought.Don't worry Norman, there are others like us out there who take what Tarantino writes in his films with a grain of salt. He's the very definition of silly and pretentious filmmaking; along with Shyamalan. I'd like to see them both work outside of thier own boundaries using a script by a radically different writer (I'm thinking Tony Kushner for Tarantino and John Sayles for Shyamalan, or something along those lines) and a different genre. Maybe then, Tarantino can take a break from riffing other (vastly superior) films/directors and Shyamalan can take a rest from the "WHAT-A-TWIST!" formula.
posted 05-24-2006 10:53 PM PT (US) 
sean

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nuts_score, I kind of enjoy Tarantino's references to Silver Surfer, The Enemy Below, Lipizzaner stallions, and of course, Star Trek!!! in Crimson Tide. I think that works perfectly well, but I see your point about other films he's done. My favourites of his are still True Romance and Crimson Tide, which are both directed by Tony Scott, but written by Tarantino. I'm sure you agree (somewhat) with that statement.
posted 05-25-2006 09:07 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Finally saw the film today. Knew the score off by heart before going in, and liked the film a lot. The house scene is scored brilliantly. Angel's theme is great too.
posted 07-17-2006 04:46 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Originally posted by Camillu:
The house scene is scored brilliantly. Angel's theme is great too.I agree.
One thing is annoying about the CD though: It sounds like it was recorded out of phase or something. All instruments (except for the percussion) come from either the far left or the far right. Nothing in between. Particularly annoying on headphones.
NP: Previn conducts Korngold
posted 07-17-2006 05:54 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
