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    Topic:   Favorite Thomas Newman style?

     PeterK
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    Would you say Thomas Newman has a few distinct signature styles, or is it essentially all just the Tommy Newman style?

    If you think he's clearly developed different styles, which do you like the best?

    To my ears, he's got a number of scoring methods, identified by scores that most successfully display each sound. There's the beautiful Little Women sound, sweet and lofty; the earthy folk twang of Flesh and Blood or The War; the American Beauty tinkerings; the long drawn-out heavyweight strings of The Shawshank Redemption; the rough edge of Jarhead.

    Suggestions above are by no means complete - there are likely more categories. I am throwing this out there to get something going on Thomas Newman. I like his scores... never tire of 'em.

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    posted 03-07-2006 10:20 AM PT (US)     

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    My favorite Thomas Newman sounds are the bold strings and interesting percussion that accompany the likes of "Shawshank Redemption" and "Meet Joe Black." But while we are on the subject, I am still furious that Thomas Newman failed to get an Emmy nod for "Angels in America". You know damn well had this been made for a theatrical release he most definitely would have received an Oscar nomination and yet all those Emmy nominations and nary one for music! If you think Oscar makes bad calls then I would swear the Emmy voters are completely tone deaf!!

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    posted 03-07-2006 10:47 AM PT (US)     

     Demetris Christodoulides
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    Mine is the quirky, atmospheric, melancholic and sometimes-odd Thomas Newman of : American Beauty, Road to Perdition, Cinderella Man, in the bedroom, white oleander, Pay it forward, Lemony Snicket's, The Salton Sea.

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    posted 03-07-2006 12:04 PM PT (US)     

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    I DEFINITELY favor the more lyrical Thomas Newman stuff; either the "Americana" of HORSE WHISPERER/THE WAR or the potent simplicity of MEET JOE BLACK/"The Letter that Never Came" from LEMONY SNICKET.

    I do like AMERICAN BEAUTY a lot, and there's some other snippets of "quirkier" material that I've liked (ERIN BROCKOVICH, for example). And I have the utmost respect for T. Newman for taking on stuff like JARHEAD in an atypical manner, or earlier scores like THREESOME, THE LINGUINI INCIDENT, etc. (A guy/gal's gotta stretch in any creative endeavor he does.)

    But for me: SHAWSHANK, ROAD TO PERDITION, HORSE WHISPERER, GREEN MILE, ANGELS/AMERICA. These are vintage and perfect Newman.

    I have a particular fascination with Newman scores. I love Elfman and Burwell; those two were my first two fave composers (besides Williams) as I grew up and started figuring out what movie scores were about, that there was a fan base for them, what the styles of different composers was like, etc.

    I think Burwell's stuff (i.e., in the ROB ROY and FARGO vein) helped paved the way for what I love about Newman.

    I can't get enough of Thomas Newman. I play his music pretty much every day, in some form or another, be it while I read, write, or simply relax with a mocha ice blended. I've had a hard time trying to introduce people to his music; most of my friends are fairly resistant to "that movie music I listen to," and don't quite hear what I hear in Newman's work. I know nothing about scoring or composing beyond a very layman's view, but I know that in Newman's scores I hear a texture that I just find utterly moving and inspiring and relaxing. Whenever I see a poster or trailer and Newman's name pops up, the thought of a new score of his is one of life's little pleasures, I tells ya. To the point where, say, JARHEAD comes along and I was actually a tad disappointed it wasn't in the vein of some of his more serious, lyrical work; it tended toward the quirky and the offbeat, but that is EXACTLY what that movie called for, tonally. On the other end of the spectrum, I loved FINDING NEMO quite a bit, and while the voice talent, writing, and animation were all wonderful, I have to say that Newman's music was often key to my emotional connection to the film; I hope in the future more animated filmmakers take a cue from FN's use of music.

    I truly cherish Newman's body of work so far, and greatly anticipate how he'll utilize his signature blend of swelling strings or quiet piano to continue to move me (and, no doubt, others).

    For sheer power and scope, one can't top Williams or, on his best days, Horner.

    But when I'm in need of a moment of solace, to be inspired or calmed, for my money, the two best composers working in the "mood" mode today are Thomas Newman and Cliff Martinez (with Desplat rather quickly inching his way up onto that list).

    OK, I've spouted off enough. Thanks for listenin'... Now, back to my IPod Thomas Newman playlist.


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    posted 03-07-2006 12:23 PM PT (US)     

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    Ripley, in the spirit of welcoming, welcome to the boards! Nice foirst poist....

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    posted 03-07-2006 01:11 PM PT (US)     

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    I gotta say, his score to How To Make An American Quilt is one of my all time favorites, the final cue on the CD is just breath taking. I think if you enjoyed the Horse Whisperer, you'll enjoy How To Make An American Quilt. I think I prefer his softer, more emotional music to his odder stuff (which is still very good!)

    Clayton

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    posted 03-07-2006 01:58 PM PT (US)     

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    My preference from Newman's techniques is on par with what Clayton mentions: How To Make An American Quilt. His orchestral scoring in that score is by far, for me, his most engaging skill. On the other hand, his "quirky" band-like percussive writing in other scores like American Beauty just isn't compelling—even though his variations on this style work great in Jarhead, it's a toss-up for me.


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    posted 03-07-2006 03:55 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm still a fan of his 80's synth (Jumpin' Jack Flash, The Man With One Red Shoe) which was the precursor (I think) of his more "tinkering" effect, later heard in "The Green Mile". As I consider it, I think Newman's style definitely inspired James Horner's "Sneakers" theme of the late 80's.

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    posted 03-07-2006 04:15 PM PT (US)     

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    "Favorite Thomas Newman style?"

    Big themes... as in Horse Whisperer, American Quilt & Meet Joe Black. T Newman writes very personal and poignant music.

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    posted 03-07-2006 06:57 PM PT (US)     

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    I think I've heard all of T. Newman's scores, and my personal favorite remains Little Women.

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    posted 03-07-2006 08:28 PM PT (US)     

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    Thomas Newman is such a tough sell to me. I greatly enjoy his past works like Shawshank, Green Mile, and Meet Joe Black because the music is so much more enriching there than what movie scores were at that time; in essence, they felt whole. But I think after American Beauty and Road to Perdition, my interest in the kind of experimental music he's known to write greatly weened. If not do to the fact that each one after those two sounded exactly like them, and I couldn't help but feel we had another resepected composer pulling a "Horner". I still have yet to hear Jarhead divorced from the screen, but I'm always contemplating it while I browse over soundtracks at the stores. If anyone is interested in hearing a great addition to the Thomas Newman crowd of "experimenting" composers, I'd greatly recommend Jeff Beal's score for the HBO series, "Carnivale". It has a wonderfully distinct taste and even employs some lofty pianos here and there; but what sets it above recent Thomas Newman outings for me, is the immediate recognition of a few extensive themes that encorporate themselves wisely to the rest of the album - something I find T. Newman to be lacking of these days.


    NP> Asche & Spencer's Stay (***/*****)

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    posted 03-09-2006 08:26 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by nuts_score:
    Thomas Newman is such a tough sell to me. I greatly enjoy his past works like Shawshank, Green Mile, and Meet Joe Black because the music is so much more enriching there than what movie scores were at that time; in essence, they felt whole.

    Oh, I don't know about that.

    1994—Shawshank Redemption: The Shadow (Jerry Goldsmith), Wyatt Earp (James Newton Howard), On Deadly Ground (Basil Poledouris), Legends Of The Fall (James Horner), Beyond Rangoon (Hans Zimmer), Star Trek: Generations (Dennis McCarthy).

    1998—Meet Joe Black: Star Trek: Insurrection (Jerry Goldsmith), One True Thing (Cliff Eidelman), Quest For Camelot (Patrick Doyle), Small Soldiers (Jerry Goldsmith), Shakespeare In Love (Stephen Warbeck), The Mask Of Zorro (James Horner), Antz (John Powell and Harry Gregson-Williams), Merlin (Trevor Jones), Les Misérables (Basil Poledouris)!!!, As Good As It Gets (Hans Zimmer), The Prince Of Egypt (Hans Zimmer), The Thin Red Line (Hans Zimmer)!!!.

    1999—The Green Mile: The World Is Not Enough (David Arnold), The Sixth Sense (James Newton Howard), Sleepy Hollow (Danny Elfman), The Matrix (Don Davis), The Phantom Menace (John Williams), Angelas's Ashes (John Williams), Deep Blue Sea (Trevor Rabin), Snow Falling On Cedars (James Newton Howard)!!!, The 13th Warrior (Jerry Goldsmith)!!!.

    I would argue that all of those scores from that time are better than the Thomas Newman scores you mentioned and are more "whole" than whatever Newman was up to at that time.

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    posted 03-09-2006 09:21 AM PT (US)     

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    None of them actually. This is a composer who I have been unable to identify with. J.

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    posted 03-10-2006 02:59 PM PT (US)     
     

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