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moviescore

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Check it out at http://www.filmmusicradio.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=22efb685e7c6f73eb0b85c86727bc16c&todo=showstory1&header=&page=&storyid=51&storycategory=&storycategory1=mikael
posted 02-06-2006 07:57 AM PT (US) 
Steve Hughes

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Article also says Varese is releasing his upcoming score to EIGHT BELOW, as well as the other Paul Walker flick RUNNING SCARED (which we already knew about).
posted 02-06-2006 08:45 AM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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My God, Isham is actually getting work! I'm glad to know he hasn't fallen off the map.
posted 02-06-2006 09:37 AM PT (US) 
Bond1965

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Originally posted by Steve Hughes:
Article also says Varese is releasing his upcoming score to EIGHT BELOW, as well as the other Paul Walker flick RUNNING SCARED (which we already knew about).Actually Disney is releasing the CD to EIGHT BELOW.
James
posted 02-06-2006 09:47 AM PT (US) 
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Back on track with The Black Dahlia, guys! Personally, I was really praying for another De Palma/Morricone collaboration (just for Morricone to get some work inside the States) but Isham is a fine choice by me. I hope the film delivers, as much as I liked Femme Fatale, De Palma hasn't made a really impressive, and great film since Carlito's Way, which still remains my favorite film of his.
posted 02-06-2006 11:26 AM PT (US) 
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I was very impressed by Femme Fatale, and count it among the best De Palmas. Of course, in its own way, nothing can compete with Carlito's Way (unintentional pun).It would be nice to see De Palma back with Doyle, Williams or Donaggio. But we'll see what Isham does. I have yet to hear a non-good score for a De Palma movie.
posted 02-06-2006 11:33 AM PT (US) 
moviescore

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quote:
Actually Disney is releasing the CD to EIGHT BELOW.Sorry about that, my mistake!
mikael
posted 02-06-2006 11:39 AM PT (US) 
Steve Hughes

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As long as Eight Below is released by ANYBODY, I'll be happy. Haven't seen the movie but I'm hoping for a score of MIRACLE-like proportions. Anybody know when the score is being released?Steve
posted 02-06-2006 11:59 AM PT (US) 
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I felt that in 2005 Horner fully emerged from a rather sustained low/middle streak with "The Chumscrubber" and "The New World," which are both terrific scores (and far better projects for him as well), and since "The Black Dahlia" is Brian De Palma, who gives his composers so much free reign, I thought it would be a career crescendo for him. I'm not his biggest fan, but this probably would've been his greatest score.Meanwhile, I'm not familiar with Mark Isham, but I haven't been too impressed with the few scores I've heard of his, though I know I haven't heard what is considered the best of his work (Fly Away Home, etc.). But I reserve total faith in De Palma's choice and I have no doubt this will be a great score. The brightest side of this at the moment is that Isham is well known for jazz, which this film will undoubtedly have quite a lot of to conjure the period (though with that said, I haven't heard Isham's jazz yet, so I guess I should sample some of it).
And you're right, De Palma never fails to get the very best out of every composer he works with. I really liked the film "Femme Fatale" (the opening sequence is absolutely magnificent), and I loved Sakamoto's score. I haven't seen/heard "Carlito's Way" yet, and I would love him to work with Donaggio again (or Morricone, for that matter).
I'm sure it will be a good score no matter who does it...but I would like to hear De Palma's reasons for letting go of Horner.
[Message edited by Dylan on 02-25-2006]
posted 02-06-2006 05:18 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I really don't care about Horner these days, but as this is a De Palma movie we're talking about, a Horner score for it might have been interesting enough to make me care again.NP: Les rivières pourpres (Bruno Coulais) (judging from this, Coulais could come up with a terrific De Palma score, too)
posted 02-07-2006 03:24 PM PT (US) 
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Look, Horner sucks, plain & simple. I don't want him to score anything. Commercials are too good for him. He should be playing piano in a cocktail lounge.As for DePalma, Femme Fatale wasn't great but it had a lot going for it. The same could be said about Snake Eyes. It's DePalma's M:I that was weak. And while I'm on a rag session, DePalma's gangster films, both Scarface & Carlito's Way, both suck as well & I don't understand their reputation. All throughout Carlito's Way my date was begging for us to leave. I agreed with her but felt I needed to see it through. The last act from the attack on the boat to the end isn't bad but you have to sit through 90 minutes of crap to get to it.
Now I love Sakamoto. He did a fine job on both Snake Eyes & Femme Fatale and while it's good to see Isham at work and I'm sure he'll give The Black Dahlia a smoky noir jazz score along the lines of Trouble in Mind, the real disappointment here is that the film won't have a Sakamoto score.
posted 02-08-2006 08:17 AM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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Jeez Lou, did domeone give you angry pills today?
posted 02-08-2006 04:35 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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Yup, got my RX for Angry-Plus and I take 320 mgs a day. Gotta keep the bile and fire from hell ready to decimate any bad art that crosses my path!
posted 02-09-2006 02:36 AM PT (US) 
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Originally posted by Lou Goldberg:
He should be playing piano in a cocktail lounge.No, I suspect no one would sit in the lounge for more than 10 minutes and he'd get fired. They'd either get tired of hearing the same melody over and over, or they'd get scared by the "piano danger motif".
posted 02-09-2006 08:42 AM PT (US) 
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Originally posted by Dinko:
No, I suspect no one would sit in the lounge for more than 10 minutes and he'd get fired. They'd either get tired of hearing the same melody over and over, or they'd get scared by the "piano danger motif".LOL. Niiiiccce Dink!
posted 02-09-2006 10:25 AM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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Dinko should have said that the melody Horner would play over and over wouldn't even be by Horner but would be two notes changed from some classical piece.Boy am I glad we get spared a Horner score for this one. Now if only someone would talk sense to Terrence Malick. Not that Zimmer's Thin Red Line wasn't bad but why didn't he use Morricone on both Line and The New World. I can't believe he hired Horner (and here I thought he was an artist).
posted 02-09-2006 10:47 AM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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BTW, the TV version of this story from back in 1975 timeframe was very good. It starred Efrem Zimbalist Jr as the detective who spent so many years on the case and Luci's dau played the Black Dahlia. Very well done TV film. J.
posted 02-24-2006 10:15 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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I just saw Eight Below and thought Isham did a great job of it. Sure, it's still patterned on the same generic sound that all mainstream scores get these days, but at least they let him write some bold themes, didn't dial him out or down, even gave him moments where the sound drops out and all you get is score, and he gave the film really solid music. I don't know if I picked up the CD and played it 5 or 6 times if I would still rave about it, but I liked it enough to buy it, so I'll tell you if it indeed holds up at a latter date.
posted 03-05-2006 01:04 AM PT (US) 
nuts_score

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http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/theblackdahlia.htmlFinally, a trailer arrives for the new De Palma thriller; and it looks fantastic. We're much over-due for a stunning and shocking true crime narrative on film (next up is Fincher's Zodiac!) and having De Palma as a director working from a book by James Ellroy is even better. It looks like we've all shown our enthusiasm for De Palma on this thread, as well as including our thoughts on what Isham will bring to the table, score-wise. Hopefully the complete package is gold. De Palma at his mysogynistic-best (my how he's grown as an auteur!
).posted 07-28-2006 10:05 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I'm dying to see this trailer. Can it be found somewhere else than on crappy Yahoo Movies? The popup that's supposed to show the quicktime video just links to some apparently empty ".pict" file, and when I grab the actual movie URL from the page's source the server responds with "unknown authentication method".
posted 07-28-2006 11:11 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

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http://www.movie-list.com/trailers.php?id=blackdahliaposted 07-28-2006 12:32 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Thanks! Looks good. I'm very much looking forward to this; Femme Fatale was top notch De Palma.
posted 07-28-2006 01:25 PM PT (US) 
Thor

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Cool. I love film noirs. And although I'm no big fan of Isham, I know that he knows jazz. That's a nice fit for this type of movie (although that's just my prejudice speaking...perhaps it will be something different altogether).NP: "On an Island" (David Gilmour)
[Message edited by Thor on 07-30-2006]
posted 07-30-2006 04:32 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
