Clayton

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Originally posted by sean:
The entire score was recorded. Much of the score was recorded before principal photography was completed, because Terrence Malick wanted to play Zimmer's music on set for the actors ... HZ spent 3 years writing and recording music for that film. He dropped scoring duties on Enemy Of The State that fall (1998) to continue working on The Thin Red Line for it's Christmas and early January, 1999 release.

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That's right. Though some of it might have been repetitous. Chances are we will never see a full release of it.

Clayton

NP>Man on Fire (there were some great cues on the iTunes version that aren't on the Varese one i've discovered!)<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

There was an interview with Mickey Rourke in Empire magazine last summer, and he gave detailed information on his cut role (a sniper who goes nuts in the jungle after running out of ammunition) in The Thin Red Line that sounded very interesting; I get the impression that 20th Century Fox was not happy with this film at all in it's final cut and therefore neglected the picture—I assume due to many last minute editing decisions (Adrien Brody was at one time supposed to be the main character) and the strangeness of the film itself. Also, Hans Zimmer said that Jerry Bruckheimer did more for The Thin Red Line than Fox ever did with his inclusion of "Journey To The Line" in the original Pearl Harbour teaser trailer (that music has since been removed and replaced with Zimmer's "Attack" cue from PH in that teaser by request from Terrence Malick, who rightly objected to TTRL music being used to promote PH).

Clayton, how many cues on the iTunes Man On Fire are not on the Varése release? I have both, but could only find one track that wasn't included on the CD ("Talking About War"), and there are many tracks (mainly songs) on the Varése release not available on iTunes.

As Demetris wonderfully put, TRL is a prestine example of masterful and imaginative directing. The way Malik shows the loss of innocence and just how some things that are so beautful can have the most ugly of things happen to them. One of my favorite scenes is where I believe Ben Chaplin has the flashbacks of his wife and a softer version of Journey To The Line is playing. The use of sound effects in that scene are pretty cool just because the jungle sounds continue through the flashback, they get quieter towards the center as if Ben is losing himself in his flashback, and then louder as he comes back to reality. I seriously would love to see a 6 hour director's cut of this thing. The theatrical cut seemed like something was missing. It seemed a little to unorganized. Like I would've loved to have seen what was going on with Adrien Brody, and more with Jim Caviezel (that guy is an amazing actor!). What do you guys think the odds of us actually seeing the unused footage are? Since it is Fox, they might actually create some sort of deluxe version of the movie. If Kingdom of Heaven gets it's director's cut, I'd say this one diserves one too.

Clayton

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Originally posted by scoreguy16:
I know tracks 23 (Motorcade) and 25 (I Am So Sorry) are missing. So is track 12 (Kidnapping... which wasn't used but instead was replaced with Changing Lanes in the movie.)

As Demetris wonderfully put, TRL is a prestine example of masterful and imaginative directing. The way Malik shows the loss of innocence and just how some things that are so beautful can have the most ugly of things happen to them. One of my favorite scenes is where I believe Ben Chaplin has the flashbacks of his wife and a softer version of Journey To The Line is playing. The use of sound effects in that scene are pretty cool just because the jungle sounds continue through the flashback, they get quieter towards the center as if Ben is losing himself in his flashback, and then louder as he comes back to reality. I seriously would love to see a 6 hour director's cut of this thing. The theatrical cut seemed like something was missing. It seemed a little to unorganized. Like I would've loved to have seen what was going on with Adrien Brody, and more with Jim Caviezel (that guy is an amazing actor!). What do you guys think the odds of us actually seeing the unused footage are? Since it is Fox, they might actually create some sort of deluxe version of the movie. If Kingdom of Heaven gets it's director's cut, I'd say this one diserves one too.

Clayton

PS> Pearl Harbor was actually what got me into the movie. I saw the teaser and thought it was just amazing and so I bought the score and was like, "alright, I need to see this movie" and then was just in awe of it.

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Cool, I'm going to dig up the iTunes Man On Fire.

The Thin Red Line is extraordinary. It's my favourite film. Clayton, its too bad you didn't get to see this film in the theatre; it was quite the experience—one of my favourite sequences too is the first time you hear the "Journey" theme in the film, with Chaplin's character. As for a director's cut coming out any time soon, I highly doubt that, unless The New World is a great financial success (and maybe for us it will, but there will be many detractors, as well). Fox, I'm sure, was really put off by the film and "dealing" with Terrence Malick was difficult for them, so I don't think they'd be eager about it right now, unless there was some major cash to be had from releasing such a DVD.

NP: Battlestar Galactica - Season One (Bear McCreary) ******************/*****

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Originally posted by scoreguy16:
Since it is Fox, they might actually create some sort of deluxe version of the movie. If Kingdom of Heaven gets it's director's cut, I'd say this one diserves one too.

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Originally posted by nuts_score:

Apparently, KoH is experiencing it's director's cut in a few selected theaters in the Los Angeles area right now if I'm not mistaken. The review I read on AicN was very favorable and positive. Does anyone know if HGW had a chance to record anymore music or use some cues he wasn't able to the first time around?

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* I've always considered this to be as much or more of a spiritual movie than a war movie

* There are an incredible number of great performances from the ensemble cast. Nick Nolte's commanding tirades are particularly noteworthy.

* When I heard that Jim Caviezel was to be cast as Jesus in The Passion, I figured Mel Gibson must have seen him in TRL... which was exactly the case.

* Zimmer's music for the movie is totally on the money

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Originally posted by Scorro:

Looking forward to seeing The New World, which has been getting great reviews (similar to RTL, they either love it or don't

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Yeah, from my Malick experiences like TRL and Badlands, you have to be very much aware of the movie and what it's trying to be to really get into it and enjoy it. Most film fans today I classify as being of the "pan-and-scan and Tarantino" generation; meaning that when they fell in love with movies, they did so when they were in syndication on TV (and therefore not experiencing the "widescreen" aspect of film) or a damn Tarantino movie. Very few of these fans have the ability to draw themselves into a film anymore, and to me that's what Malick is always trying to do with his films. He's inviting you into the world of the characters and asking you to stay for quite a while. To me, it's worth it; if I'm going to pay and arm and a leg now, I want to see a grand movie that doesn't quit itself and keeps you in the seat for more than a standard 90 minutes.

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Originally posted by scoreguy16:
Oh and Sean, I don't think seeing it in theaters would've been to much better than seeing it at home. I did get an HD-Upgrading DVD player for my 57" 16x9 TV and the movie is in full bit rate DTS (So it probably even sounds better at home than in the theater I normally go to!) But I still would deffinately sit through a 6 hour long director's cut of this. Which is odd because I don't think I could even watch the extended version of Return of the King in one (or even two) sittings.

Clayton

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There's still something special about seeing it in theatres that I missed when watching TTRL on DVD; but that's with all great films.