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*Josh* Standard Userer	Does anyone want to trade music from movie soundtracks with me through MSN? (Commercially released Soundtracks) - JOSH [Message edited by Josh on 11-05-2005]
posted 11-05-2005 05:18 PM PT (US)

Jeff78 Standard Userer	Knowlegde is power
posted 11-05-2005 05:47 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	Care Bears flashback alert! Shaun
posted 11-05-2005 08:19 PM PT (US)

Jeff78 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Josh: Does anyone want to trade music from movie soundtracks with me through MSN? (Commercially released Soundtracks) - JOSH *[Message edited by Josh* on 11-05-2005]** How about you buy them instead?
posted 11-05-2005 09:09 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jeff78: How about you buy them instead? I think that would be wrong. Buying CDs is just plain legal.
posted 11-05-2005 10:53 PM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jeff78: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Josh: [b]Does anyone want to trade music from movie soundtracks with me through MSN? (Commercially released Soundtracks) - JOSH *[Message edited by Josh* on 11-05-2005]**<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> How about you buy them instead?[/B] I was thinking that myself. Why are people so lazy about buying soundtracks that are still in print?
posted 11-06-2005 02:38 PM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	By the way Josh I do NOT repeat DO NOT add anyone I do NOT know on my msn list. So please do not try to add me again. I DO NOT trade still in print original soundtracks. Why don't you save up some cash and buy ones you want/looking for?
posted 11-06-2005 03:45 PM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Standard Userer	Gee, why is everyone so hard on this guy?
posted 11-06-2005 06:55 PM PT (US)

BMikeJ Standard Userer	I'm going to take a guess and say that Josh is probably one of our younger members, probably too young to have a job and has just his weekly allowance to support his filmmusic habit. My advice to you, Josh, is get a gig like a paper route until you are old enough to get a regular job. That ought to bring in some more dough. More dough = More soundtracks.
posted 11-06-2005 08:36 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by BMikeJ: I'm going to take a guess and say that Josh is probably one of our younger members, probably too young to have a job and has just his weekly allowance to support his filmmusic habit. My advice to you, Josh, is get a gig like a paper route until you are old enough to get a regular job. That ought to bring in some more dough. More dough = More soundtracks. Cha-ching!
posted 11-06-2005 09:00 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	It may be that Jackass_Josh (nice emailaddy, btw) is so young he's never heard of paying for music. "Why can't you just email it to me? WHY NOT?" He may also be so young that he doesn't know what "no" or "I don't do that" means. I have a three year old who's at about this stage right now....
posted 11-06-2005 09:39 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Maybe Josh just doesn't have arms. That always seems like it could be a problem whenever you try and reach for your wallet. But how the hell can he type? Maybe he uses his toes; that makes sense.
posted 11-06-2005 10:53 PM PT (US)

Jeff78 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: It may be that Jackass_Josh (nice emailaddy, btw) is so young he's never heard of paying for music. "Why can't you just email it to me? WHY NOT?" He may also be so young that he doesn't know what "no" or "I don't do that" means. I have a three year old who's at about this stage right now.... LOL. or when you tell himm no or I won't do it. It's always followed by "why?" or "Just 1 track please?" "Maybe 2 tracks"
posted 11-07-2005 03:46 AM PT (US)

Jeff78 Standard Userer	Hell, I remember I shoveled horse **** for 2 hours just so I could have enough money to buy the Mars Attack! cd when it came out. Now that's true dedication!
posted 11-07-2005 03:50 AM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	You know, it would solve alot of problems if the record companies just released what we wanted and didn't have stuff go out of print. They obviously think these things aren't going to sell, but they obviously do or the bootleggers wouldn't be bootlegging em. Then there'd be no reason to resort to paying huge prices, CDR copying or downloading.....What a perfect world it would be!
posted 11-08-2005 12:55 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	But sometimes the stuff we want goes out of print or never even gets a proper record release and we have to scourge EBay for signs of a promo; and some of those buckle with a hefty price tag.
posted 11-08-2005 10:55 AM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	if something is only released as a promo or an OOP costs more than say $20-25 I have no probs obtaining it thru other methods, or just not obtaining it at all. Just how I feel. I don't have the money to waste
posted 11-08-2005 01:46 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by tjguitar: if something is only released as a promo or an OOP costs more than say $20-25 I have no probs obtaining it thru other methods, or just not obtaining it at all. Just how I feel. I don't have the money to waste I agree, although I did just spend $30 on an original Apollo 13 promo, and I think like $27 on the Thelma & Louise/Reguarding Henry promo. But I don't like spending much more than that and there's no way I'd ever spend that much on a CD-R. Clayton NP> Apollo 13
posted 11-08-2005 02:27 PM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	The only time I download film score soundtracks is for 2-disc expanded/complete scores that I know will most likely never see a ligit release for them. If by all means there is ever a ligit release for the ones I do download I'd buy the ligit release in a heart beat since I perfer physical CD's versus MP3's.
posted 11-08-2005 05:35 PM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Standard Userer	I don't know if you have checked back on this thread or not, Jackass Josh, but you're in the wrong forum for this. Most of us work for our money and have spent a great deal of it, as well as time and energy, building up our collections. If you were interested in trading rare and out of print stuff, that would be understandable. However, you specified stuff that is fairly easy to get, especially considering that you're on this website, which sells CDs. Very bad form.
posted 11-09-2005 10:02 AM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Standard Userer	I guess I'm the neighborhood contrarian! I didn't want to see zimmerito shut down and now don't see what is wrong with helping this guy build a collection of scores cheaply on cdr if that's the way he wants them. All you guys are like, stop being on welfare & go work in the coal mines for your soundtracks. He's like Oliver Twist asking for a little more gruel and you beat him for it. Gee, do you kick little old ladies too. I remember some newbie coming here a few years back with this kind of request and I just sent him tapes for free just so he could hear different stuff. I don't have time to supply the world with cdrs but you all shut this guy down pretty quick. [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 11-10-2005]
posted 11-10-2005 11:48 PM PT (US)

Jeff78 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Lou Goldberg: I guess I'm the neighborhood contrarian! I didn't want to see zimmerito shut down and now don't see what is wrong with helping this guy build a collection of scores cheaply on cdr if that's the way he wants them. All you guys are like, stop being on welfare & go work in the coal mines for your soundtracks. He's like Oliver Twist asking for a little more gruel and you beat him for it. Gee, do you kick little old ladies too. I remember some newbie coming here a few years back with this kind of request and I just sent him tapes for free just so he could hear different stuff. I don't have time to supply the world with cdrs but you all shut this guy down pretty quick. [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 11-10-2005] theres also a big difference when he asks just one and you tell him no and thats that and then someone who just IM's anf keeps bugging you to send them scores.
posted 11-11-2005 12:39 AM PT (US)

*Josh* Standard Userer	Come on fool, send me THE MASK SCORE!
posted 11-11-2005 08:04 AM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	mocking here Come on FOOL get a CLUE. No one is going to be sending you the soundtrack.
posted 11-11-2005 09:54 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	LOL. Sharing is indeed caring. Not sharing is... uncaring. Cue care bare music.....
posted 11-15-2005 11:06 PM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Standard Userer	Sending somebody a mix tape or CD is not the same thing as sending somebody an entire record. One is fair use, and is a decent enough orientation device. The other is piracy.
posted 11-16-2005 07:07 AM PT (US)

Joey168943 Standard Userer	Best I could find is a rip of the movie...guess you'll have to pull out the score yourself! ;-) http://www.mininova.org/tor/45083 Play friendly! Joey [Message edited by Joey168943 on 11-16-2005]
posted 11-16-2005 12:18 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	quote: Sending somebody a mix tape or CD is not the same thing as sending somebody an entire record. One is fair use, and is a decent enough orientation device. The other is piracy. I think you are a missing one key point. If something was never released, and is only available as a bootleg, the fans are GOING to obtain it one way or another. Unless you are the person selling these, I don't see why you would want the fans to have to pay a fortune for something that the composer (and record companies) don't receive a penny for. The best way of course is to distribute it FREELY among the collectors BECAUSE when you are purchasing from the bootleggers you are only paying some guy who smuggled a copy or somehow got a copy, the composer doesn't get any cut of it. As soon as such a CD gets released OFFICIALLY, THEN it becomes piracy, In my opinion. Is it illegal to distribute unreleased scores? Of course it is, but no more so then buying it, and there is no reason to condone buying of such items unless you happen to be selling them. The majority of fans would buy an official release in a heartbeat to upgrade anyway. I think that its important to recognize the difference between something thats legally right and something thats morally right. OOP items that were once released but aren't in print anymore is even more of a gray area, especially for limited editions, but someone who wasn't given the opportunity to buy a CD when it was in print in either wide or limited release, shoudln't be punished by being a late bloomer. I'm not sure if it would be right or not, thats a harder call, but I absolutely believe that the trading of BOOTLEGS and even Promos is A-OK. At least its my opinion anyway.
posted 11-16-2005 02:09 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Standard Userer	A record label would argue that trading boots and OOP limited editions hurts the market for getting a legit release available. Torn Curtain is a good example of this. Varese had a set of stereo tracks ready to release when Tsunami released a mono set. Varese decided that demand for the score was small enough that they didn't want to compete with the boot.
posted 11-16-2005 03:54 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	Most people would buy a legimate release...I dont know why anyone would stick with their bootleg mono version if they were coming out with a superior one in stereo.
posted 11-16-2005 08:33 PM PT (US)

BigT1981 Standard Userer	Indeed, I know I wouldn't. Hell with the 'complete' and 'expanded' bootleg scores that I have, if any of them get a ligit release one day I know I'd buy them in a heart beat. Nothing beats having the real physical CD's. Remember Mp3's can degrade over time.
posted 11-16-2005 09:00 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Standard Userer	Maybe so. But I seem to remember a post on this very board where someone was perfectly satisfied with his Predator boot and didn't see any reason to spend 20,00$ on a legit release. This doesn't even address the quasi legeal stuff thet came out of Germany and Italy.
posted 11-16-2005 09:16 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by BigT1981: Indeed, I know I wouldn't. Hell with the 'complete' and 'expanded' bootleg scores that I have, if any of them get a ligit release one day I know I'd buy them in a heart beat. Nothing beats having the real physical CD's. Remember Mp3's can degrade over time. MP3s can not degrade over time. Its data. It's not going to change...I guess it could crash like anything else, but the quality of your files is not going to change, the only thing that would change would be if you got better equipment and its easier to hear the 'fallacies' of mp3s, but thats not the file degrading.
posted 11-16-2005 10:14 PM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Standard Userer	quote: I think you are a missing one key point. If something was never released, and is only available as a bootleg, the fans are GOING to obtain it one way or another. No, you missed my point. This guy isn't asking for unreleased scores, he's asking for commercially released albums. In the case of The Mask, this is not a particularly difficult CD to find. It is in cut-out bins all over the country because the cover art was almost identical to the song album and was the subject of many mistaken purchases. [Message edited by Swashbuckler on 11-17-2005]
posted 11-17-2005 11:09 AM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	I know that...but your post implied that sending someone an entire record of anything was wrong, or at least thats how I interpreted it. Of course it is wrong to trade copies of commercially released albums. As far as cut out bins...do they still exist? I thought record companies stopped overproducing and they aren't really around anymore... I'd be interested to take a peek at one or two of those bins ;-)
posted 11-17-2005 12:11 PM PT (US)

Jeff78 Standard Userer	I went to both Best Buys here in town. And both still had a copy of The Mask score for 9.99. So it can't be to hard to find.
posted 11-17-2005 12:36 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	I didn't even know there was a score release for that film. I don't really remember the music though i loved the film when I was in my jim carrey phase.
posted 11-17-2005 01:45 PM PT (US)

moontrekker Non-Standard Userer	http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/ B000005D8J/qid=1132267829/sr=1-26/ref=sr_1_26/102-5715691-5276102?v=glance&s=music the Mask sd nice light fun score. [Message edited by moontrekker on 11-17-2005]
posted 11-17-2005 03:52 PM PT (US)

AlexG Non-Standard Userer	What can I say. I buy my soundtracks, BUT! When I do that search, JUST TO SEE.. and the complete promo for Silvestri's Polar Express suddenly appears. Or the complete Mulan promo. Or the complete The Mummy. Or The Shaft promo by David Arnold... What to do, what to do...
posted 11-18-2005 01:17 PM PT (US)

firefox Standard Userer	>>OOP items that were once released but aren't in print anymore is even more of a gray area, especially for limited editions. Uh, no they're not. At least not if you know music law. If you're just making wild guesses based on ignorance, then I guess you can state anything you want. >>I'm not sure if it would be right or not, thats a harder call, but I absolutely believe that the trading of BOOTLEGS and even Promos is A-OK. No, it's not a harder call. You're wrong about EVERYTHING in your post. >>At least its my opinion anyway. Yeah, and it's an uninformed one. And PLEASE learn to spell "it's" properly!
posted 11-19-2005 04:37 AM PT (US)

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