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Kris Standard Userer	I read at MftM that John Powell is scoring Ice Age 2: The Meltdown. Given that he scored Robots, this doesn't come as a big surprise. I'm looking forward to this.
posted 07-31-2005 10:15 AM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	Now I love John Powell, but anytime there's a sequel the same composer from the first film should be brought in to score the second. Or, at least use the same themes as the first movie (And I did like the themes from Ice Age). Clayton NP>Man on Fire
posted 07-31-2005 01:40 PM PT (US)

Demetris Christodoulides Standard Userer	Erm…..why?!? The first one was really good indeed but won’t it be great if we get another fresh and fun score by the master of the genre – Powell?
posted 07-31-2005 05:46 PM PT (US)

wilbur gray Non-Standard Userer	I agree with Scoreguy on this.Carrying over the same composer is as important as casting the same actors in a sequel.Even when the sequel is inferior as in the case of Jaws 2,the soundtrack can both complement and expand on the original.Superman 2 and Chamber of Secrets greatly benefited from the use of John Williams' themes from the first movies.As good a composer as Patrick Doyle is,I fear the use of his new music in the Harry Potter series will be jarring.Hopefully Die Hard 4 will incorporate some of the late Michael Kamen's themes.
posted 07-31-2005 07:02 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	Now I greatly admire Michael Kamen's music, but honestly, are there any notable themes in his Die Hard scores that are purely his own creation and merit repeating?
posted 07-31-2005 09:54 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Demetris Christodoulides: Erm…..why?!? The first one was really good indeed but won’t it be great if we get another fresh and fun score by the master of the genre – Powell? Yes... but firstly Powell is not the master of animation scoring - Carl Stalling rest in peace etc - and secondly, how fresh can Powell continue to be in the genre? The frantic sound can only go so far... and since David Newman never gets any work, but Powell is never lacking it, it'd be nice to have heard the take from the original composer of the series.
posted 07-31-2005 11:23 PM PT (US)

moviescore Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Demetris Christodoulides: Erm…..why?!? The first one was really good indeed but won’t it be great if we get another fresh and fun score by the master of the genre – Powell? Hmm, Demetris - is he really the master of the genre? In my world, Joel McNeely, Bruce Broughton and Randy Newman are finer composers and they have done a great deal of superb scores for animated films... :-) mikael
posted 08-01-2005 03:05 AM PT (US)

Demetris Christodoulides Standard Userer	Well, you’re right ‘cause he hasn’t been In the specific genre for so long as other composers, like the ones you’ve mentioned, but with all the wit, vigor and vividness his relevant scores enjoy plus the continuous rising course of his career, I think he’s quickly evolving into one. [Message edited by Demetris Christodoulides on 08-01-2005]
posted 08-01-2005 03:12 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Bring on David Newman. At least there might be some discussion on the score then. I can't specifically recall any talk about Robots music score here other than "it's certainly John Powell" or "it's good." That's real inspiring! What DID people think of the Robots score? Who bought it?
posted 08-01-2005 10:04 AM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	I bought it (I think from you actually Peter) and I enjoyed it quite a bit. Just a fun score. I like the use of the Blue Man Group and funky sound effects. Anyway, about the Michael Kamen thing and Die Hard. I think that the original composer sets a tone for the movie with the score. Wether there's a theme or not, there's still a feeling they create for the movie and it should carry over to the sequel. I just thought of another example of a sequel score gone bad (even though I still like the music in the second one, I don't like it nearly as much as the first), but Bad Boys. The first movie had these intense themes. Then the second one had no themes at all (except for Tapia's Theme). Clayton NP>American History X
posted 08-01-2005 10:45 AM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	Yeah, but again, in the case of Bad Boys, you go from a clear cut memorable Mancina theme to... well, nothing memorable... The only clear cut memorable themes Kamen contributed to the Die Hard series were his variations on classic pieces, which were great, and I think that if anything influences another Die Hard score it will be the use of another well-known classical piece or military march. Other than that, Kamen didn't really create a feeling or tone for the series that stands apart all that much from other orchestral action/suspense scores, but if you think he did, I'm all ears (or eyes, rather). But if it's not easily definable then it's probably not easily repeatable, and in that case, the studio is likely to not even care.
posted 08-01-2005 12:30 PM PT (US)

Kris Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: *What DID people think of the Robots* score? Who bought it?** I bought it. I thought it was okay. Could've been better. I think the film didn't offer much more. But that's just me. [Message edited by Kris on 08-02-2005]
posted 08-01-2005 02:12 PM PT (US)

Demetris Christodoulides Standard Userer	I have ROBOTS as well. Really dense and fun score.
posted 08-01-2005 03:20 PM PT (US)

wilbur gray Non-Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Al: Now I greatly admire Michael Kamen's music, but honestly, are there any notable themes in his Die Hard scores that are purely his own creation and merit repeating? Since they're never fully developed,I should probably have referred to them as motifs or cues.However there's one I think of as McClane's theme that occurs throughout the three movies.It usually accompanies the buildup to Willis' heroics(throwing plastic explosives down the elevator shaft,jumping off the roof,trying to signal the plane,etc.)So far as I know it's not from Singin' in the Rain,Beethoven or any source but Kamen.Another example is the cue that accompanies both of the climaxes in II&III(lighting the jet fuel and shooting the power line).
posted 08-01-2005 08:28 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	If that motif did pop up during another composer's score, I would be slightly amused--if I could even hear it above the sound mix--but it would still be more of a novelty instead of a source of any substantial continuity.
posted 08-02-2005 08:55 AM PT (US)

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