I wish they'd opted for less of the Zimmer synth strings as it makes the music seem much more homogenous, but once I get past that there seems to be some cool stuff in the mix. The theme is also good...it fits very well and if used at the right moments in the film could be really exciting. Elfman's theme is still a milestone, but I don't think it would have gone well with this film (not saying I wouldn't have liked to see what '05 Elfman could have done, but that the first two scores were for very different types of Batman films).

Anyways, I'll be picking this up on June 14th! Hope there's a little more JNH that shows up too.

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Originally posted by zimmerito:
well...
Newton howard in his "urban scores" always use very synthetic elements(the interpreter,the fugitive) and Newton howard said some years ago he likes Hans zimmer samplers.
But i'm surprised about this bad samplers.
Of course i like the dramatic part with vocals and piano.
I hope the theme played in the trailer when bruce is walking to the airplane and also when bruce meets rachel for the first time will be in cd.I like very much the "bruce theme" with horns and a little crimson tide-esque.
I hope the best,but seems i'm the only one who don't like this previews.
NP:ST insurrection

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Zimmerito, I still believe you're trapped in a time bubble that's set to the year 1997. Those kinds of scores from Hans Zimmer are gone, my friend, his style has changed. The Batman theme obviously has Zimmer's "voice" to it, but you're not going to get Crimson Tide or Backdraft all over again, so it's time to move on zimmerito. You're the only one who doesn't like this music because you have an idea of the Zimmer you want and he's light years ahead of you, and he ain't turning back to 1997. (Plus you have funny ideas about which co-composer did what on which of Zimmer's score: your King Arthur theories sound insane.)

You know, I'd like all of James Horner's scores to sound as fresh and cool as Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan, but that just isn't going to happen, and I like his new stuff, or I've "learned" to like it ... as for Hans Zimmer, he continually surprises me and I think his music kicks ass, as does his and James Newton Howard's score to Batman Begins: it's awesome!

NP: The Phantom Menace (John Williams) *****/*****

I'm only about 20 minutes in, but so far for mostly that reason I'm disappointed despite my expectations being somewhat middling. I'm still quite open to having my mind changed when I see how it works in the context of the film. Here's hoping.

Kirk

Now, this music by JNH and Hans Zimmer sounds like stock music. Library music. It's dark and moody, but the action music - even though the alternation between Zimmer's straight-forward 4/4 and JNH's typical 7/8 rhythms is quite amusing - is so middle of the road. The only thing I like is the theme with the vocal soloist, but let's face it: how many times have we heard this???

I'll wait and it's too early to make harsh judgements. I just hope this will turn out to be better than what I've heard so far.

I can't wait for the CD to come out. I'll buy it, listen to it for two days, then go see the Movie on IMAX the following Thursday.

I guess the main beef that I have with your posts is that they seem kind of crazy and irrational at times, especially the way you pounce on scores, like Batman Begins, without having heard the actual CD or seen the movie and make huge judgement calls based on a bad quality streaming WMV file (who knows, maybe those strings you're so up-in-arms about will sound better on disc, and that was a Hans Zimmer cue, did you expect him not to use synth?). It's cool that we can hear the score two weeks before it comes out, but I'd reserve the serious criticism for this score until after I get the CD in the mail.

I hope the best for the rest of 40 minutes of score.
Gavin greenaway,welcome home.

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Originally posted by zimmerito:
And i like "too strong in the movie"

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Originally posted by Dalboz:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by zimmerito:
[b]And i like "too strong in the movie"<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's almost never a good thing if you're rooting for the score to ultimately be effective.[/B]

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Dalboz, are you one of those "If the score was noticeable in the film, than the composer didn't do his / her job properly?" If you are, then you should know that Hans Zimmer has said that he thinks that idea is rubbish (and I couldn't agree more) and that the score should be noticeable and loud; it's safe to assume that James Newton Howard feels the same way, given the prominence his music has played in previous films he's worked on. I'm excited about that statement from The Hollywood Reporter. It's a positive sign when a film critic notices the music in the film they're reviewing, IMO, since they seldom bring it up.

NP: Revenge of the Sith (John Williams) *****/*****

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Originally posted by zimmerito:
Sean you was right!

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I'm always right ... LOL! jk!

Thanks for the link Zimmerito, these clips are awesome!!!!

NP: Batman Begins (Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard) *****/*****

The full Bat theme in Molossus is nice. Not very bombastic, yet remain overarching and heroic. The driving cyclical strings create a sense of relentless determination that highlights the sensibility of the Batman character. The Black Rain string (@3:50 in) get a full rendition that suits the new theme very well. I don't mind it very much.