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    Topic:   FSM message board trouble?

     piero2
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    Anyone having trouble getting on FSM Message board tonight?

    piero2

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    posted 02-28-2005 12:22 AM PT (US)     

     franz_conrad
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    Yeah... I tried to go there about an hour ago and it wasn't working.

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    posted 02-28-2005 01:01 AM PT (US)     

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    So, just out of curiosity, if this board were not running would you post over at FSM asking about it?

    James

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    posted 02-28-2005 06:48 AM PT (US)     

     Mark Olivarez
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    FSM was working fine for me last night. I think it's just the amount of traffic visiting the site.

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    posted 02-28-2005 08:52 AM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Good questions, all around.

    Uh, lol Bondo. No is the answer. Why?

    [Message edited by PeterK on 02-28-2005]

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    posted 02-28-2005 12:34 PM PT (US)     

     franz_conrad
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    I think half the talk over at FSM is probably due to the fact that certain controversial people who are banned many other places still post there, inflaming all with their views.

    The other half probably has a great deal to do with the fact that the board is frequented by record producers in the form of the FSM staff.

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    posted 02-28-2005 01:52 PM PT (US)     

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    LOL, James. You raise a most valid point.

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    posted 02-28-2005 03:21 PM PT (US)     

     franz_conrad
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    And now scorereviews.com/forum is down too!

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    posted 02-28-2005 07:13 PM PT (US)     

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    I think that FSM's board is engineered in a way so that it can't withstand more than three people using it simultaneously.

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    posted 02-28-2005 08:45 PM PT (US)     

     Indysolo
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    Lukas posted a message saying they are moving the server and will be down for a period.

    Neil

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    posted 02-28-2005 09:02 PM PT (US)     

     Jeff78
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    quote:
    will be down for a period.
    [/B]

    is that three days???


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    posted 02-28-2005 09:48 PM PT (US)     

     Jeff78
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Bond1965:
    So, just out of curiosity, if this board were not running would you post over at FSM asking about it?

    James


    That's like someone from John Kerry's messageboard going over to George W. Bush messageboard.


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    posted 02-28-2005 09:49 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    quote:
    Originally posted by jonathan_little:
    I think that FSM's board is engineered in a way so that it can't withstand more than three people using it simultaneously.

    So everytime the dude with the humble opinion gets on the board, no one else can access it? Scary.


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    posted 03-01-2005 07:51 AM PT (US)     

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    I use both boards and regardless of your preference, FSM gets more traffic.

    I've seen the exact same topic posted on both boards and the topic on FSM usually draws 2 to 3 times the posts as here.

    Also the crowd over there seems more into Golden Age scores than most who post here. So if you are into older scores, there's more talk about them there

    In addition to FSM producers who post over there, Bruce Kimmel (Bay Cities) Ford Thaxton and a few others involved in the biz are available to argue and answer questions. There are also people who had long involvment with the studio system and its descendents to talk about that as well.

    But to answer another question, Yeah if this board went down I would Email PeterK and ask what's up and failling that I would post on the Off Topic board about what was going on.


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    posted 03-01-2005 02:46 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Surely it would be the end of the world if the FSM board was down... at the same time the MM board goes down.

    Thankfully, the MM board won't be going down.

    I guess I'll just never understand why so much complaining about board problems exists at FSM when there are 10 other film music boards that are always up. Ok, 9 of them maybe get 5 posts a week, but still. Move the herd.

    I don't read FSM so much is because of a very negative tone that exists, ironincally coming those few who triumph themselves because of a passion for good film music (the stuff before 1977). Too many sour apples in the bunch. Of course, I personally have many friends who post there. The entire bunch ain't sour, so don't read me wrong!

    Less traffic here is ssswwwweeeeet... it's a little easier on the eyes and takes less time to get through!

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    posted 03-01-2005 03:54 PM PT (US)     

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    If FSM, Moviemusic and Filmus all went down at the same time I would know that it was a conspiracy on the part of Country Music and Rock fans to stifle Film Music Discussion and there would be rioting in the streets!

    Of course they would have to be pretty small riots with less than ten or so rioting in the big cities and 1 or 2 in the smaller hamlets.

    Still, Riots! Teargas! Madness!

    The sixities all over again for the first time!

    It would be damn ugly!

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    posted 03-01-2005 08:28 PM PT (US)     

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    Yeah, I can't get on either. I'm guessing it's the middle of the "down-time" right now, as they're switching servers. Hopefully, it will be up again by the end of the day. If not, however, I guess I'll hang around here for a while.

    [Message edited by Thor on 03-02-2005]

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    posted 03-02-2005 03:22 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:


    I don't read FSM so much is because of a very negative tone that exists, ironincally coming those few who triumph themselves because of a passion for good film music (the stuff before 1977). Too many sour apples in the bunch. Of course, I personally have many friends who post there. The entire bunch ain't sour, so don't read me wrong!


    I agree Peter. I just got fed up of all the inflammatory remarks on the FSM board. I thought we were all fans of film music. I guess some want to climb on their own personal soapbox and bash composers, their work and the people that appreciate the music. Lukas Kendall says to strike the comments would be a 'grey area', as it comes close to censorship. I guess people in general will have to deal with comments if they visit the site. Me? I deal with them in my own way. I don't go there anymore. For me, there are other sites I can go to, Moviemusic being one of them.

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    posted 03-02-2005 09:17 AM PT (US)     

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    Originally posted by franz_conrad:
    I think half the talk over at FSM is probably due to the fact that certain controversial people who are banned many other places still post there, inflaming all with their views.

    Who do you mean?

    [Message edited by Ron Pulliam on 03-03-2005]

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    posted 03-03-2005 10:44 AM PT (US)     

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    There is the occasional thread that runs hot at FSM.

    Quite often, one fellow writes inflammatory subject lines while his first post to the thread is innocuous enough and doesn't mean what the subject line implies.

    That pisses a few people off.

    That, and some idiotic comments made by some folks who havent' seen a film that was made before 1980.

    And PeterK: I don't know the specifics of what you were referring to about film music fans who "triumph" music written before 1977, but:

    It's one thing to say, "I'm not familiar with film music before 1980."

    It's quite another to say, "I have no interest in any film music written before 1980 because that's when my interest in film music began."

    If one fan cannot take this newer fan to task for being too narrowly focused, then there is no point to a discussion forum.

    I agree with you that things move slowly here. I visit a couple of times a week and the topics are pretty much the same, and in the same place.

    At FSM, miss a day and you've missed three or four "possibly" interesting topics that have been pushed down to page 2 by newer topics.

    Today, alone, 13 new topics were started. Several are of interest to me. Tomorrow, several will probably have moved on to page 2. There may be "some" negativity in a couple of the threads -- out of 50 or 60 created just this week -- but there's far more interesting stuff there than negative stuff.

    It's an acceptable price to pay for engaging discourse.

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    posted 03-03-2005 10:48 AM PT (US)     

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    I would say no one misses anything if they are even slightly determined. If you read only 1 of 5 pages of topics, there is no excuse, as 80 percent of the offerings weren't even looked at....

    [Message edited by PeterK on 03-03-2005]

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    posted 03-03-2005 11:11 AM PT (US)     

     franz_conrad
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    Ron, he seems to be a bit better behaved at the moment (or maybe we're all less stupid), but I kind of had the 'guy with the humble opinion' in mind mainly.

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    posted 03-03-2005 12:13 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by franz_conrad:
    Ron, he seems to be a bit better behaved at the moment (or maybe we're all less stupid), but I kind of had the 'guy with the humble opinion' in mind mainly.

    Oh, HIM!

    Believe me, there's not an humble anything in him.


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    posted 03-03-2005 01:04 PM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    It's at it AGAIN! The site won't load or is EXTREMELY slow. I'm getting so sick and tired of this, to the point where I won't readily accept any excuse they may have. Bill has had MONTHS to fix this.

    [Message edited by Thor on 02-06-2006]

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    posted 02-06-2006 11:47 AM PT (US)     

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    Hiya Thor, nice to see you again.

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    posted 02-06-2006 01:48 PM PT (US)     

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    I did visit the FSM board at one point and I agree the total bitterness on that board is quite pathetic. I don't remember what thread I was reading but I got about half way through the thread and I had to close out the board I just couldn't stand any more of the negative posts.

    Ya everyone is entitled to their own opinion but for people to constantly take pot shots at composers and their works, and as John Johnson said that bash people who like those composers and the works is just plain stupid and idiotic. I'm glad this site won't ever go down I for one love it.

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    posted 02-06-2006 02:00 PM PT (US)     

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    Thor, I was thinking....

    I need a favor. Could you post over at FSM that our beloved Search Feature here at MM has been found?? I think some people over there were looking for him/her/it. One post like that would be a fair exchange for the many FSM customer service posts we've been doing every time the FSM site bites it?

    This thread is funny, especially MWRuger's post. It would be ugly because there are no cute flower power girls who are into movie soundtracks! Dang it.

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    posted 02-06-2006 02:11 PM PT (US)     

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    I've found the FSM site as a whole extrememly slow over the past month or so. And I've got super fast broadband.

    They obviously have server bandwidth problems they don't want to address.

    [Message edited by Kevin on 02-06-2006]

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    posted 02-06-2006 03:47 PM PT (US)     

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    Hi Thor!

    NP: Flesh+Blood (Basil Poledouris)

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    posted 02-06-2006 03:48 PM PT (US)     

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    Hi Marian, Peter and co.!

    I hope it's OK that I vent here on mm.com when the FSM board is having severe trouble, Peter. I try to limit the posts to ONE SINGLE THREAD, and it's usually just to see if anyone else experience the same. But I know the whole FSM thing is a slightly "sore spot" for you (or maybe not).

    BigT, my problem with the FSM board has nothing whatsoever to do with the membership at the present time, just the interface and server. I think the "bitterness" you speak of is highly overrated.

    Oh, and I will of course post a search engine heads-up at FSM, Peter!

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    posted 02-06-2006 04:43 PM PT (US)     

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    Thor, I think (no... I know!) the "sore spot" thing you've said I apparently have for FSM is highly overrated, much less totally misunderstood (although I'd be interested in hearing more details about that spot).

    My quip is not with FSM, never has been. I am stumped as to why someone would post a message on one message board about the status of another message board -- most especially regarding FSM these days, as I think by now it's "pretty much very well" understood that FSM's site has had access problem clearly documented all the way back to y2k. So when it happens again, get up, go have a snack, read a back issue, take a nap, come back and try again....

    ...unless of course there is some mechanism inside you that says you HAVE to click a "post message" button every day, no matter where?

    See, that's my problem... and it is my problem. I just don't get it.

    In any event, I guess we're glad to be here for you, even if it's not really about movie soundtracks.

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    posted 02-06-2006 04:58 PM PT (US)     

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    Peter, dude, you know we love you right? This ain't personal.

    But you just don't get it, man!

    It ain't about "the FSM board" being down or slow.

    It's about *THE FSM Board* being down. That's like, it's just... oh it's so difficult to think of the right words... it's like, the end of the world, bro'!

    You're like totally not gettin' how serious the issue is.

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    posted 02-06-2006 07:52 PM PT (US)     

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    Oh, and I will of course post a search engine heads-up at FSM, Peter!

    He did, Peter he did!

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    posted 02-06-2006 08:01 PM PT (US)     

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    Man Dinko, my world must have ended years ago, since I've never been to the FSM boards.

    K

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    posted 02-06-2006 10:44 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    My quip is not with FSM, never has been. I am stumped as to why someone would post a message on one message board about the status of another message board -- most especially regarding FSM these days, as I think by now it's "pretty much very well" understood that FSM's site has had access problem clearly documented all the way back to y2k. So when it happens again, get up, go have a snack, read a back issue, take a nap, come back and try again....

    Well, the reason I post it here is that many of the moviemusic.com members happen to be FSM members as well, so I would like to know if they experience the same problem. There have actually been times in the past where I've had to do something with MY internet connection and where the FSM board has seemingly worked fine for everyone else.

    Also, it's not like I do this EVERY TIME something happens to the FSM board (which, as you say, is quite often these days). But only when the downtime is more dramatic.

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    posted 02-07-2006 03:24 AM PT (US)     

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    Sorry, Peter, but this time it's really critical, so I have to ressurect this thread again....MY USERNAME AND PASSWORD DON'T WORK ANYMORE!!!! Whazzap? Anyone have the same problems? I have e-mailed Bill Smith a few times, but received no replies. Kind of a hopeless situation here.

    [Message edited by Thor on 02-27-2006]

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    posted 02-25-2006 08:08 AM PT (US)     

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    Bill Smith doesn't run the show anymore.

    [Message edited by PeterK on 02-26-2006]

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    posted 02-25-2006 03:25 PM PT (US)     

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    Good news.

    In addition to FSM producers who post over there, Bruce Kimmel (Bay Cities) Ford Thaxton and a few others involved in the biz are available to argue and answer questions. There are also people who had long involvment with the studio system and its descendents to talk about that as well.

    Thaxton and Kimmel are available to hurl insults at anyone and everyone with whom they disagree. That's all they know how to do.

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    posted 02-26-2006 04:10 PM PT (US)     

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    Hector,

    What info do you have that I don't have about Bill not being the administrator. As of last Friday, he still was.

    Of course, as with the sheriff, he doesn't get paid to do anything for FSM (nor does he get any promo stuff or anything...and if he is like the sheriff, he doesn't even get a thanks...but that is neither here nor there). He has a full time paying job that he works at and I think Thor really needs to take a Xanax or something to calm his nerves. Truthfully, we are doing the best we can with what we have, which ain't much, trust me.

    As for your issue, Thor, since I have had no troubles getting on, it must be you. Who have YOU pissed off recently?

    Joe

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    posted 02-27-2006 04:53 PM PT (US)     

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    That's what I would like to know.

    By the way, I'm perfectly calm. NOW. Just a bit frustrated.

    [Message edited by Thor on 02-27-2006]

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    posted 02-27-2006 05:05 PM PT (US)     
     

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