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pat Non-Standard Userer	The Village was by far the best score out of the five. I can't believe it didn't win!
posted 02-27-2005 08:54 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	Honestly, I'm just pleased that JNH was nominated even though the film was critically panned.
posted 02-27-2005 09:06 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Take another listen to Finding Neverland. A master work of a film score. --Brian
posted 02-27-2005 09:30 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	Neverland is certainly nice in a Portman-esque way, but "master work?"
posted 02-27-2005 10:57 PM PT (US)

workaluk Standard Userer	James Newton Howard robbed???? What did you expected from those guys in the academy,that the best score would win???? That's hopeful dreaming,i would say... In 10 awards,one is deserved,the others....Nahhhh Nuno Cunha
posted 02-28-2005 02:50 AM PT (US)

JohnHJohnson Standard Userer	Isn't this one of those awards that gets picked by their peers in this field, similar to Visual Effects? If that is true, then blame the composers in general.
posted 02-28-2005 08:55 AM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Standard Userer	I wasn't too impressed with The Village, it's good but not worth all of the hype. I was pulling for Williams but apparently for some people it's the most devastating moment in their life and the world comes to a screeching halt if their favorite composer doesn't win the Oscar, although members on this site seems to have a grip on reality thankfully.
posted 02-28-2005 09:00 AM PT (US)

JohnHJohnson Standard Userer	quote: I was pulling for Williams but apparently for some people it's the most devastating moment in their life and the world comes to a screeching halt if their favorite composer doesn't win the Oscar, although members on this site seems to have a grip on reality thankfully. [/B] It's a shame that FSM doesn't follow this way of thinking. Too many posters there venting hatred towards certain composers and other posters, and FSM refuse to censor these comments. I don't go there anymore because I've just had enough of it all.
posted 02-28-2005 09:12 AM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Standard Userer	FSM isn't too bad compared to some other sites. I'm just disappointed in some of the narrow minded people who can't seem to realize there is so much more to film music than their favorite composer. Yes I have my favorites but at least I can appreciate others. My message is if you want to listen to only one composer that's fine but don't criticize others if you've never heard any of their works or have no idea who they are.
posted 02-28-2005 09:37 AM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	The kind of whining over at jwfan.net is incredibly puerile. I doubt Williams gets as upset at his hardcore fans do. He's probably well and truly closer to being a well-adjusted human being than any of them.
posted 02-28-2005 12:03 PM PT (US)

Bryan T Standard Userer	I was hoping Howard would win, too, but Finding Neverland really is a very nice score. As I'd said in other threads, I thought all of the nominees were pretty deserving this year.
posted 02-28-2005 01:46 PM PT (US)

Richard Standard Userer	...and Thomas Newman looked really pissed off. Again.
posted 02-28-2005 02:35 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	James Newton Howard is not one of my favorite composers. Although I do love his work, I wouldn't consider him one of my favorites... yet. As for his score to The Village, I thought it was outstanding. The way some of the music hits in the movie is just amazing. Like in one of the slow motion scenes (those of you that have seen the movie know what i'm talking about). And then right before the end credits start rolling. Amazing. The CD really doesn't do the score justice. I was actually very dissapointed to hear that one of the cues that repeates 3 or 4 times in the movie (The Lucius and Ivy theme played slowly on the piano) isn't on the CD. Very dissapointing. As for Finding Neverland, it's the only score that was nominated that I don't have and haven't heard. But I look forward to hearing it after all the hype. As for Harry Potter, it was by far my favorite score from all 3 movies. Track 6 on the CD is great, but I am glad it didn't win the Oscar.
posted 02-28-2005 10:30 PM PT (US)

workaluk Standard Userer	Well if my previous post offended some touchy feelings around here,i'm sorry it wasn't supposed to do that,besides James Newton Howard is not my favorite composer,however in my opinion his score was the best of the 5 nominated,if some posters can't accept an opinion,it's their problem not mine... Regarding the justice of the awards,i stand by my first statement,in each 10 awards only one is deserved,hell,in 5 nominated only 2 or 3 are deserved.... That's my opinion anyway... NP-Last Samurai - Hans Zimmer
posted 03-01-2005 09:18 AM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	Well done Jan.
posted 03-01-2005 10:00 AM PT (US)

CAT Standard Userer	It's certainly nice to see some open-minded folks with at least a sense of graciousness. Congratulations, Mr. Kaczmarek! Cindy
posted 03-01-2005 01:09 PM PT (US)

snap Non-Standard Userer	Finding deserved the oscar. I was hoping it would win when I first heard it, but I thought that Howard Shore would win based on his Golden Globe award (of course he was never even nominated, which was somewhat odd.) This score did what a great film score is meant to do, it reinforced the emotion of the scene and used music to foreshadow and look back on important material through out the movie. This was a brilliantly made movie in my opinion. It brought out a tough emotion to portray and that is a subtle uplifting emotion like a butterfly tingling in the stomach. It's a very uplifting yet sad and powerful movie with a great message and the music perfectly captures that aspect. A very good example of the use of music in Finding Neverland was the kite flying scene...the music makes flying a kite incredibly emotional...now thats a good film score. [Message edited by snap on 03-02-2005]
posted 03-02-2005 01:09 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by snap: This was a brilliantly made movie in my opinion. It brought out a tough emotion to portray and that is a subtle uplifting emotion like a butterfly tingling in the stomach. It's a very uplifting yet sad and powerful movie with a great message and the music perfectly captures that aspect. A very good example of the use of music in Finding Neverland was the kite flying scene...the music makes flying a kite incredibly emotional...now thats a good film score. [Message edited by snap on 03-02-2005] I couldn't agree more. I expected an intelligent children's movie. Instead I was hit in a way I didn't expect, and there was a twenty minute section of the film where I just continued watching despite the fact that tears were running down my cheeks. In a very rare occurrence for me, after the 'Bear' scene at the beginning, I actually didn't notice the music at all (I was that caught up in the story and character of Barrie as played by Depp) until the end credits when Piano Variation in Blue played. Oscar may have given Kaczmarek an award to make sure all five best picture nominees went home with something, but it was a good award.
posted 03-02-2005 02:01 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Standard Userer	Bah, Oscars. Let's not get upset. They don't mean ANYTHING, except very momentarily. Thankfully, people have short memories, and true greatness wins through historically in the end. I've posted about this before, but really, does anyone consider Goldsmith a lesser composer than Michael Gore? They both have ONE Oscar for best score. The examples are endless in all categories. Regarding FINDING NEVERLAND - well, as you've gathered, I'm neither happy nor angered that it won. IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, and is certainly no slight to James Newton Howard's talents, nor John Williams', nor nobody elses. Whilst we're on about FINDING NEVERLAND, I've been listening to it quite a bit recently - I think it's really nice, even inspired on occasion. But, is it my ears, or are there bum piano notes in there? I love those solos (sort of New Age George Winston or something), but the "delicate" keyboard work is sometimes ham-fisted to my ears. More than once he seems to hit two notes at the same time, and there's one shocking moment when he goes all the way down the piano to do a "bong" but gets it wrong. Maybe. A good score though, and it won the Oscar. So?
posted 03-05-2005 04:02 PM PT (US)

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