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Topic: Tyler and Badelt?
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Steve Hughes
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Varese's listing for Constantine now says that the score is composed by Brian Tyler AND Klaus Badelt?! Anyone know what happened?? Did Brian need a little extra help throwing open those gates of hell?Ryan??
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posted 01-21-2005 02:34 AM PT (US) ip
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moviescore
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hughes:
Varese's listing for Constantine now says that the score is composed by Brian Tyler AND Klaus Badelt?! Anyone know what happened?? Did Brian need a little extra help throwing open those gates of hell?Ryan??
My name is not Ryan, but I take the liberty to give you some info. At the very last there were changes made in the film and Klaus Badelt was brought in to work with Brian. They collaborated on the new music which was merged with the original score. mikael @ music from the movies
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posted 01-21-2005 09:23 AM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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Yes this came to my attention yesterday. The filmmakers wanted to lighten the tone of the picture (apparently a movie about hell and demons needs more humor), and felt the music should move in the same direction. This isn't a case of rescoring the picture, instead some of Brian's existing material was reworked with Klaus to fit.Ryan
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posted 01-21-2005 10:00 AM PT (US) ip
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Steve Hughes
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Mikael, I was't calling you Ryan! I was asking Ryan because he runs Brian Tyler's official site...
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posted 01-22-2005 03:45 AM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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Haha - my apologies to Mikael. I didn't see his reply, I just went straight to reply to Steve's post. I had asked Brian about this and expected the topic to be brought up, so naturally I was a little hasty to reply.Ryan
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posted 01-22-2005 08:48 AM PT (US) ip
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Southall
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Ryan (or Mikael), do you know whether KB was brought in for artistic reasons, or just because BT didn't have time to rework his score by himself?
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posted 01-23-2005 03:55 AM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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I feel like the White House Press Secretary here!Badelt was brought in after the post-production process to collaborate with Brian on new material to lighten up the tone of some of the score. The score will be a mix of the new material with the original material. Also: My understanding was it was a time issue! Ryan [Message edited by rkeaveney on 01-23-2005]
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posted 01-23-2005 11:05 AM PT (US) ip
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Philipp
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Will Badelt´s music be included on the score cd?
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posted 01-24-2005 04:42 AM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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The material by both composers will be on the CD and the material by Brian Tyler alone will be on the CD.Ryan
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posted 01-24-2005 11:19 AM PT (US) ip
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Philipp
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Thank you,Ryan! I am looking very much forward to this score! Philipp np: the patriot (john williams)
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posted 01-24-2005 01:09 PM PT (US) ip
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Southall
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Ryan, please confirm Brian's engagements for the week ahead, also what outfit Mrs Tyler will be wearing to dinner on Thursday evening, and what he will be serving the President of France.Thank you.
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posted 01-24-2005 01:27 PM PT (US) ip
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John C Winfrey
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Of these two I like Badelt much more. Tylers action music all sounds the same to me.J.
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posted 01-24-2005 03:56 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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James -- I will pass on your concern for Brian's schedule when I meet him in about a week and a half!BTW - he's on vacation right now  Ryan
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posted 01-24-2005 08:22 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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Originally posted by Philipp:
Thank you,Ryan! I am looking very much forward to this score! Philipp np: the patriot (john williams)
As am I! I promise to have clips available ASAP on Brian's site. That is, the stuff that doesn't sound like PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN... Ryan
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posted 01-24-2005 08:30 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Originally posted by rkeaveney:
I feel like the White House Press Secretary here!
Heh, Canadians aren't eligible for that, Ryan. Duh!
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posted 01-27-2005 04:14 PM PT (US) ip
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Justin
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Nor would they want to be ;-)Looking forward to this score. Both composers with great talents. Should be a treat.
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posted 01-29-2005 08:44 AM PT (US) ip
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zimmerito
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Both composers have talent????
mmm...i don't think so.
1-badelt just have 1 good score.Time machine.
his other scores are mediocre.:Equilibrium,basic,catwoman,ned quelly,k19(house of spirits and gladiator rip-off).
2-Tyler is better than badelt.But always is doing the same "children of dune" themes.is young and his scores are always the same.And the long number of tracks ,the poor use of his themes ,and his autorepeat-mode is alarming being a young composer.
Tyler use in many of his scores the media ventures sound,but anyone wants say this.
I'm not very interested in this score....
NP:Spanglish
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posted 01-29-2005 11:51 AM PT (US) ip
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Bond1965
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quote:
Originally posted by zimmerito:
Both composers have talent????
mmm...i don't think so.
1-badelt just have 1 good score.Time machine.
his other scores are mediocre.:Equilibrium,basic,catwoman,ned quelly,k19(house of spirits and gladiator rip-off).
2-Tyler is better than badelt.But always is doing the same "children of dune" themes.is young and his scores are always the same.And the long number of tracks ,the poor use of his themes ,and his autorepeat-mode is alarming being a young composer.
Tyler use in many of his scores the media ventures sound,but anyone wants say this.
I'm not very interested in this score....
NP:Spanglish
The funniest thing I've seen from you Zimmerito...NP: Spanglish VERY appropriate. James
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posted 01-29-2005 02:02 PM PT (US) ip
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zimmerito
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ahahaha...
yes.I wrotte the past post very quickly and my english is not very good.
But I think a inteligent person like you know what I want say.
NP:a beautiful mind
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posted 01-29-2005 07:53 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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An example where Brian Tyler uses the "Media Ventures sound"?I know the "Media Ventures sound" pretty damn good -- and I know Brian Tyler's music pretty damn good too, and there's no examples of where the two converge. Ryan
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posted 01-29-2005 10:22 PM PT (US) ip
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zimmerito
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Children of dune is a score with armageddon and gladiator great influences.
Paparazzi is also a score with great media ventures sound.The electronic arranjaments,the percussion and the action tracks.
Timelone main theme could be composed for a media ventures guy.
I don't need more for....
see u!
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posted 01-30-2005 05:45 AM PT (US) ip
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Justin
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Everything sounds like Media Vantures to Zimmerito, Hince his name. Hell, what I'm typing right now probably sounds like a cue from Enemy of the State
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posted 01-30-2005 07:51 AM PT (US) ip
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zimmerito
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mmmm....
Don't judge me just for my name.
I listen very styles of music and scores.
I'm not the only one I say this :
http://www.scorereviews.com/title.asp?id=470 http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/children_dune.html http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/timeline.html Children of dune its clear like armageddon and gladiator.if you can't admit that maybe you don't have ears.
NP:
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posted 01-30-2005 08:23 AM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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Originally posted by zimmerito:
Children of dune is a score with armageddon and gladiator great influences.
Paparazzi is also a score with great media ventures sound.The electronic arranjaments,the percussion and the action tracks.
Timelone main theme could be composed for a media ventures guy.
I don't need more for....
see u!
No offence, but perhaps you should listen to some more film music. Hans Zimmer and Media Ventures don't own the rights to the duduk or the female voice, or electronic percussion or "action tracks". Your view of film music is extremely limited and moronic if you think these are exclusive Media Ventures elements.
And can please explain how the TIMELINE main theme sounds like a "Media Ventures guy" theme! Which Jablonsky variation? Or perhaps Ramin Djawadi's brilliant and memorable BLADE 3? Ahahaha. Ryan
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posted 01-30-2005 11:24 AM PT (US) ip
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zimmerito
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ahahahahaaahahahaha...
your post is very funny!
no comments!
ahahahahahaahahahahaha
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posted 01-30-2005 12:04 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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I didn't think you'd have any comments.Ryan
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posted 01-30-2005 02:52 PM PT (US) ip
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Steve Hughes
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Tracklisting and artwork now available from Varese's site:
http://www.varesesarabande.com/details.asp?pid=vsd%2D302%2D066%2D636%2D2 1. Destiny (2:03)
2. The Cross Over (2:42)
3. Meet John Constantine (2:39)
4. Confession (2:31)
5. Deo Et Patri (1:17)
6. Counterweight (2:48)
7. Into the Light (2:53)
8. I Left Her Alone (1:41)
9. Resurrection (2:05)
10. Circle of Hell (5:36)
11. Last Rites (1:56)
12. Encountering a Twin (1:05)
13. Flight to Ravenscar (:53)
14. Humanity (2:58)
15. John (1:31)
16. Someone Was Here (1:46)
17. Hell Freeway (2:43)
18. Ether Surfing (1:14)
19. The Balance (2:27)
20. Absentee Landlords (1:35)
21. John’s Solitude (1:26)
22. Lucifer (1:56)
23. Rooftop (1:20)
24. Constantine End Titles (2:39)
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posted 02-01-2005 11:30 AM PT (US) ip
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Bond1965
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Originally posted by rkeaveney:
I didn't think you'd have any comments.Ryan
Ryan, I have a comment. Did they spell your name right this time? James
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posted 02-01-2005 12:43 PM PT (US) ip
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Southall
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Dare I say I thought Children of Dune's Media Ventures stylings are pretty clear and Timeline also has more than a hint of Zimmer about it (though is pulled off with far more panache).Discouraged to see the credits at Varese's site list all the usual Media Ventures crowd. Hope Badelt's influence was minimal. James
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posted 02-01-2005 12:45 PM PT (US) ip
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John C Winfrey
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I have liked the parts of the Papparazzi score I have heard. The film looks like pure drivel though. When I saw the previews I started laughing.J. I like several Badelt scores so far.
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posted 02-06-2005 10:41 AM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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No, my name was mispelt again.Ryan
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posted 02-06-2005 11:40 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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I met with Brian last night and let me reiterate that this was a case of last minute tone changes. It is not a replacement.Brian and Badelt both wrote new music. Both composers met with the filmmakers. Brian conducted every note of the score. His own and Badelt's. I have heard Brian's original score and I love it. I have not heard any of Badelt's material or the Varese CD, which includes some of Brian's redux cues. You will be able to tell the difference between Brian's material and Klaus'. Ryan
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posted 02-09-2005 08:05 PM PT (US) ip
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