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Topic: Suggestion for Pete! Start a Video Game section!

AaronR1074

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Not the games themselves, but the music. See what stuff you can get from the distributors and try to open up a whole seperate cadegory or mini-branch of the site. Even set up a video game forum
posted 01-05-2005 10:17 AM PT (US) 
Justin

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I just read this and find it an awesome idea!!! I 2nd this notion
posted 01-07-2005 07:25 AM PT (US) 
MarkA

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I'd be the first to buy stuff in this new section. There is a serious shortage of decent online places to buy video game scores. Such a place here would be very welcome.
posted 01-07-2005 08:15 AM PT (US) 
Alexborn007

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There are very few stores set up which have any kind of respectable stock of video game music (that isn't bootlegged). GameMusic.com is probably one of the only proprietary sites available at the moment.The biggest problem is stocking the titles at a great volume even with their high import costs. However, it is definitely something worth considering and I'd be thrilled to get my game music from here!
posted 01-07-2005 10:13 AM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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That is definitely a problem. Most of the video game scores come out of Japan and they are not cheap. There are very few soundtracks available here domestically and not always available from a one-stop distributor. It takes a lot of footwork to carry game soundtracks and the profit margin is often small.
posted 01-07-2005 10:36 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Mike is right. But when you think about it...when you are forking out 40-50 bucks for a 4 disc set that’s not THAT bat...10-12 a disc ya know? It's the 1 or 2 disc sets that can kill you. I paid 40 bucks for my ORIGINAL FF 8 Orchestra disc....and it was worth every penny
GameMusic.com is a great site. They offer a lot of titles and have great customer service.I've heard rumors that since Uematsu has left Square to start his own company he wants to release stuff over here State Side...so we'll see.
Video Game Nerds Unite!
--Brian
NP: The Epic That Started It All: Final Fantasy 6!

posted 01-07-2005 10:44 AM PT (US) 
Alexborn007

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It is unfortunate, but people are also very content with getting titles from SonMay, EverAnime, and other bootleg labels. So the demand for legitimate, and Japanese pressed titles drops even more when the Taiwanese labels are able to manufacture entire catalogues and can sell them for more reasonable prices. Also, they are still pressing many discs which are otherwise VERY much out of print; this makes the decision to buy literally a no-brainer to most people.posted 01-07-2005 12:15 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Right. I do my best to buy titles of the original Japan imports, however I do own a few of the knock offs. I do know that Square Enix is now doing their own CD pressings as DigiCube is out of business. In doing this a lot of the older DC releases have been re-released. I hope more follow.--Bri
posted 01-07-2005 01:14 PM PT (US) 
FalkirkBairn
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Alexborn007:
...people are also very content with getting titles from SonMay, EverAnime, and other bootleg labels...
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Or are unaware that these labels are bootleg labels?[Message edited by FalkirkBairn on 01-07-2005]
[Message edited by FalkirkBairn on 01-07-2005]
posted 01-07-2005 04:57 PM PT (US) 
Alexborn007

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by FalkirkBairn:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Alexborn007:
[b]...people are also very content with getting titles from SonMay, EverAnime, and other bootleg labels...
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Or are unaware that these labels are bootleg labels?[Message edited by FalkirkBairn on 01-07-2005]
[Message edited by FalkirkBairn on 01-07-2005][/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
It is a little bit of both. Some people are not aware. For example...
I was a naive 16 year old when I went looking for the soundtrack to Metal Gear Solid 2. Finding the title for a meager 9.99 I snatched it up without thought. Then later on when looking for another import title, I stumble across the facts that many labels produce these illegally in Taiwan (some DVDs have been known to be pressed in boats off of Taiwan's coast to avoid ANY kind of legal action). Many people follow this route.
The other is the group that does not care...
They see the item for cheap, it looks markedly similar to the real item, and in most cases sounds identical to boot (
pun intended).Some also have no choice if they wish to obtain the music. I mentioned earlier that they produce many titles which have fallen completely out of print, and their similarity + low price make it the only option as opposed to waiting on EBay where it will be more than it's worth.
With all that activity, you'd think there would be a label in the U.S. which could license the music here.
I wonder if it's like Japanese DVDs which are not released in the U.S. because in most cases, ours are cheaper to just import. Many Godzilla titles have suffered this fate

[Message edited by Alexborn007 on 01-07-2005]
posted 01-07-2005 07:50 PM PT (US) 
AaronR1074

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Ok then, I understand the problems associated with getting the music, how about setting up a seperate video game forum then?
posted 01-08-2005 07:22 PM PT (US) 
Alexborn007

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quote:
Originally posted by AaronR1074:
Ok then, I understand the problems associated with getting the music, how about setting up a seperate video game forum then?That'd be great! Not sure how much activity it could garner, but there are certainly not enough outlets to talk about the burgeoning style of music.
What do you guys think?
posted 01-08-2005 09:02 PM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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I have a feeling that it would just be the guys participating in this thread who would contribute to that section but it certainly would be easier to find subjects about video game music, short of engaging the SEARCH function. How about it, Peter?
posted 01-08-2005 09:57 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Everyone knows I'm down
--Bri
posted 01-08-2005 11:04 PM PT (US) 
FalkirkBairn
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I would think that it could be at least worth trying something like a game music forum - especially with the line between game and movie music beginning to get more blurred.
posted 01-09-2005 08:24 AM PT (US) 
MWRuger

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I think starting a seperate forum for game music is a bad idea.Topics posted in the Classical and Movies only forum don't get near the exposure that they used to when those same topics were posted in the General Forum. PeterK can probably give you actual figures, but I would bet that it's a 5 to 1 ratio. Think about it, how often do you go to those forums?
We want more people reading about Game music, not less. Keep Game Music topics in the General forum.
posted 01-09-2005 10:10 AM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

These days I won't get excited about creating an extra forum unless:- There is a discussion on the subject at least weekly
- There is major distinction between that subject and "movie soundtracks"
Now, considering game soundtracks, there isn't yet a big weekly discussion on it, although there is a difference between "game" and "movie" soundtracks. At this point, I think the best thing I can do is rename this forum simply as "soundtracks." That way, game music, television music and movie music will all co-exist peacefully. The real answer is keeping the subject of the thread focused. Most of the time it is, which is great - I search for "game" on the message board search page and all kinds of stuff comes up that is very relevant.
As for a game section of the MovieMusic Store, you guys have touched on the major issues. Most stuff comes from Asia, has only thin supplies, is expensive, and disappears from supplier catalogs quickly. Plus, I am thinking there are some great sites that already cover game music. My intent with the MovieMusic store is to keep it focused. Right now, that is what sets it apart from major retailers, and that's why people who love buying soundtracks keep coming back.
I hope this covers everything... if not, holler up.
posted 01-09-2005 01:14 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

I forgot to mention that a good chunk of regular (non-limited edition or composer promo) game soundtracks released in the USA will be carried in the MM store. I good way to see the listing of game soundtracks in the store is to do a search up there in the blue bar with the key word "(game)", keeping the parentheses in the key word.
posted 01-09-2005 01:18 PM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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Peter, you might want to list these game soundtracks as well.Brute Force
Freelancer
Crimson Skies
Hitman Contracts
Rise Of Nations DVD-A
These are soundtracks for popular Microsoft games. The label is Sumthing Else. They have their own distribution.
posted 01-09-2005 04:42 PM PT (US) 
AaronR1074

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quote:
Originally posted by BMikeJ:
Peter, you might want to list these game soundtracks as well.Brute Force
Freelancer
Crimson Skies
Hitman Contracts
Rise Of Nations DVD-A
These are soundtracks for popular Microsoft games. The label is Sumthing Else. They have their own distribution.
Sorry man, I follow game development and post-production pretty closely. All of the above games got pretty mediocre reviews except for Rise of Nations and Crimson Skies, the latter of which didn't even make all that much money until it's X-Box release because of the Xbox live features. The demand for those soundtracks probably won't be too high unfortunately. I only spend about $50 every two months on games so I make sure I know what I'm getting before I buy them. That's why I'm always following them so closely hehe.posted 01-09-2005 07:00 PM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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Right, but we're talking about the music here, not the games themselves. Does it matter how well the games sold? I have the soundtracks for Crimson Skies, Rise Of Nations and Hitman: Contracts and they aren't bad.
posted 01-09-2005 07:06 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Yeah I'm with BMikeJ...played Crimson Skies for only 30 minutes. Loved the music, but the game got boring quick. I still need to grab Hitman Contracts. I know it's nothing like the first, but I like Jesper's work.
posted 01-10-2005 07:51 AM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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The Rise Of Nations soundtrack is interesting because it was released on a DVD, instead of a CD. The music is mixed in 5.1 Surround and is also on there in regular Stereo and then they put some supplemental material on there.
posted 01-10-2005 12:02 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Really? I may have to check that out. I dig that concept.
posted 01-10-2005 01:58 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

The available soundtracks on the sumthing else label will be trickling into the store this week. Also listed are the two newest scores from them, FABLE and ROBOTECH INVASION, coming on 2/15/2005. If any of you would be interested in providing tracklistings for the store for any of these CDs, please email me.All CDs from sumthing else:
http://www.moviemusic.com/search/label.asp?id=207All games soundtracks in the store can be found by searching for "(game)" in the site-wide search up there in the blue box.
posted 01-15-2005 09:33 PM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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Outstanding, Peter... I still need to get the Brute Force album.
posted 01-15-2005 10:52 PM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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I don't know if these guys have distribution but Tokyopop have a bunch of game soundtracks, including Final Fantasy music, and they are available domestically. Here is a link to the titles they currently have available.
http://www.tokyopop.com/music/gamesound.php
posted 01-15-2005 11:01 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Hitman Contracts won "Best Game Score" recently at the 2005 Bafta Games Awards. Pretty neat!
posted 03-03-2005 10:27 AM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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I like Jesper Kyd's music for the Hitman games... I have also been enjoying his music for Robotech: Invasion, Freedom Fighters and Brute Force. Brute Force has an army of composers attached to it and it's pretty good. I read a review for Freedom Fighters and the music was described as Vangelis on steroids, which is pretty good description. I think this would also apply to Robotech: Invasion. Some fun music to drive to...
posted 03-03-2005 11:01 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
