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Kris Standard Userer	The Belgian Label Promtheus Records is releasing the full score to Cutthroast Island (+/- 145 minutes). I don't know the exact release date, but it should be within the next few weeks / months. For me personally this is fantastic news. Cutthroat Island is one of my all time favorites. Ever since I listened to Debney's swashbuckle score I was a fan of his.
posted 01-03-2005 09:51 AM PT (US)

Brendan Anderson Standard Userer	Where did you read this news? If it's true, this is spectacular! Cutthroat is easily one of the greatest swashbucking scores of the last 25 years. Can you provide a link to the news? Sweetness!
posted 01-03-2005 11:35 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	It's been in the works for several months. Valid.
posted 01-03-2005 01:18 PM PT (US)

Alexborn007 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: It's been in the works for several months. Valid. So long as the sound quality can match the Silva release...this will be one heck of a release. The original is a CLASSIC! Was this the release which was rumored to contain the re-orchestrated cue he did for the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" trailer? I recall someone mentioning this expanded edition and that cue way back when the film was released. However, I stress the rumor status of that...rumor
posted 01-03-2005 01:38 PM PT (US)

Erik Woods Standard Userer	Here are some details about the release from Ford Thaxton. ===== It will be 2 CD set with the entire score (which runs about 120 minutes) plus alternate takes,a few cues without the choir and as an extra special bonus track it will have the synth demo version of the first two cues (Morgan’s Ride and The Rescue) that got him the gig in the first place. It’s an amazing look into the creative process to hear how these pieces started and ended up sounding for full orchestra and choir. ===== I can't wait! -Erik-
posted 01-03-2005 03:05 PM PT (US)

Jim Ware Standard Userer	Wow! This was most unexpected. Fantastic news!
posted 01-03-2005 03:14 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	Question being... Was there anything in the movie that was not on the CD and that is worth the extra $$$? Haven't seen the movie in a long time, and I don't intend to. I seem to recall though that pretty much everything of interest was on the CD. Whatever was left off the OST wasn't that essential.
posted 01-03-2005 03:52 PM PT (US)

reza Standard Userer	Wow! I've been considering to buy this one for weeks, really glad I've been procrastinating
posted 01-03-2005 05:38 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	This is a true candy bar score, but I like candy bars. Ryan
posted 01-03-2005 08:06 PM PT (US)

TV's Frank Standard Userer	I just never saw the big deal with this score. True, I pretty much detest everything Debney has composed, but when listening to CUTTHROAT ISLAND I found it such an unfocused mess of noisy drivel and I lost count of how many times I heard the temp track screaming through his cues that I simply lost interest. [Message edited by TV's Frank on 01-04-2005]
posted 01-04-2005 10:23 AM PT (US)

John Zimmer Standard Userer	Will this be a limited release? Jz
posted 01-04-2005 03:27 PM PT (US)

Kris Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by John Zimmer: Will this be a limited release? Jz From what I've read I don't think it's a limited edition release. But don't expect this to be the usual Varese release either.
posted 01-05-2005 12:26 AM PT (US)

JohnHJohnson Standard Userer	The info I got from Movie Boulevard in the U.K., they were looking at February. They deal with Luc @ Prometheus.
posted 01-11-2005 10:30 AM PT (US)

Frank V Standard Userer	According to Ford Thaxton it will be a bit longer before the CD is released, the artwork for this project was only approved yesterday.
posted 02-24-2005 12:28 AM PT (US)

Frank V Standard Userer	Tracklisting CD #1 1. Main Title/Morgan's Ride (4:38) 2. The Rescue/Morgan Saves Harry (3:41) 3. Purcell Snatcher (2:58)+* (Composed by Brad Dechter) 4. Shaw is Caught (1:15)* 5. The Funeral (1:29) 6. Morgan in Command (2:51)* 7. The Language of Romance/ Mr. Shaw (2:40) 8. A Lady Scorned (1:38)* 9. Carriage Chase (7:21) 10. Ainclee Plots/To Spittelfield (3:46)* 11. Uncle Mordechai (2:02)* 12. Morgan Captured/Sword Fight (5:23) 13. Escape from Mordechai's (2:09) 14. Setting Sail (1:03) 15. Charting the Course (2:19) 16. First Kiss/Love Scene/ Dawg’s Plan* (3:12) 17. Shaw Discovers the Location (2:04)* 18. Betrayal (2:46)* 19. The Storm Begins (2:33) 20. To the Bottom of the Sea (2:43) 21. The Island (3:41)* 22. Shaw Steals the Map (3:30) 23. Discovery of The Cave (4:39)* 24. Discovery of the Treasure (2:19) CD #2 1. Intermezzo-The Wedding Waltz (2:43)* arr. John Debney 2. Caught (1:37)* 3. The Rope (2:17)* 4. Morgan and Show Jump the Cliff/ The Big Jump (2:38) 5. Shaw Captured (2:32)* 6. Morgan Takes the Ship (4:30) 7. The Hangman’s Noose (3:56)* 8. The Battle/To Dawg’s Ship/Morgan Battles Dawg/Dawg’s Demise-The Triumph (17:52) 9. It’s Only Gold/End Credits (9:33) BONUS TRACKS 10. Main Title/Morgan's Ride (Without Choir) (4:48)* 11. Carriage Chase (Alternate Version)(7:21) 12. First Kiss (Album edit) (1:54) 13. Dawg's Demise/The Triumph (Without Choir) (3:31) Special Bonus Track 14. Morgan’s Ride & The Rescue (original Synth Demo Version) (7:25) [Message edited by Frank V on 03-22-2005]
posted 03-22-2005 02:47 AM PT (US)

Lancelot Standard Userer	I'd like to support Moviemusic.com's store...will it be available here?
posted 03-22-2005 07:01 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	I'm sure Peter will get some in. --Brian
posted 03-22-2005 08:09 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Yep! Order yours now: http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/cutthroatisland-exp.html
posted 03-22-2005 10:49 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Is this a limited release? --Brian
posted 03-22-2005 11:31 AM PT (US)

Jim Ware Standard Userer	No.
posted 03-22-2005 11:54 AM PT (US)

Foobsie Standard Userer	Just got it today in the mail. I am already past disc one (72:24). Disc 2 is now playing (73:12) FANTASTIC Demerits: - sound quality has not improved. I still need to turn on my EQ and set it to preset #4 - This needs an SACD/DVD-Audio release or ISO 5.1 score in the next DVD-release. Pirates of the Carribean does not hold a candle to this stunning piece of work.. My thanks and congrats to all the guys at Prometheus who made it possible. Never gonna put the old-one in the player again. FoobsZ
posted 04-02-2005 04:11 AM PT (US)

Frank V Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Foobsie: Demerits: - sound quality has not improved. I still need to turn on my EQ and set it to preset #4 Compared to what release? The Silva Screen one?
posted 04-02-2005 04:29 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	What's wrong with the sound? I think it sounds great... --Brian
posted 04-02-2005 09:13 AM PT (US)

PeterD Standard Userer	A question: Does the extra music on the new release include much in the way of rousing, action tracks, or were those pretty much all included on the Silva release?
posted 04-02-2005 01:15 PM PT (US)

Foobsie Standard Userer	@Frank V: Yes compared to the original release. So my guess it is on the master tapes as well. @PeterD: More and much much more... It's a fantastisc musical rollercoaster thrillride! FoobsZ
posted 04-02-2005 02:23 PM PT (US)

BMikeJ Standard Userer	The sound quality absolutely HAS improved on this release of CUTTHROAT ISLAND. I have compared all 3 versions and there has been a substantial improvement with each release. This one sounds the best. Foobs, turn off the equalizer! Take the butter cookie dough out of your ears!
posted 04-02-2005 09:27 PM PT (US)

Foobsie Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by BMikeJ: The sound quality absolutely HAS improved on this release of CUTTHROAT ISLAND. I have compared all 3 versions and there has been a substantial improvement with each release. This one sounds the best. Foobs, turn off the equalizer! Take the butter cookie dough out of your ears! I'll try... but you have to taste it first... Come on'... take a lick :-) FoobsZ No in all seriously... It still sounds like a Shawn Murphy recording. Preset #4 is designed to address that issue and cue it up to an HDCD-sound platform :-) Heck.. I finally found a name for it... I'll rename it "S.Murphy". I'll probably need it for ROTS as well
posted 04-03-2005 03:11 AM PT (US)

Indysolo Standard Userer	The notes on this release could have been more comprehensive. There are tracks on here that have no explanation. "The Wedding Waltz" is one of them as is an alternate "Carriage Chase" that runs 5 seconds longer. I think it's a different ending. Neil
posted 04-03-2005 07:27 AM PT (US)

Valere Standard Userer	It's worth It. Buy It. ONLY if you love it. NP:The Wedding Waltz (Cutthroat Island)
posted 04-03-2005 06:17 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Mike, where's the "substantial" improvement in sound? It may be there (I can't hear anything improved), but it's certainly not substantial. These Prometheus CDs keep getting more expensive, yet production values keep going down, which is really unfortunate. The front cover totally looks like a lot of cheap bootleg CD covers I've seen on Ebay. Seems there was one helluva missed opportunity to really do something special with this music, like a 5.1 channel mix, or even something as basic as the Dolby surround mixes heard on the George Korgold CD issues. This is a huge score, and I hope one day to hear it coming from all angles, because that's where this score really lives! I am glad to hear the new stuff, although most of the bonus tracks are useless. The same tracks as heard earlier, but without an element like the choir? Why?
posted 04-04-2005 08:29 PM PT (US)

Indysolo Standard Userer	And there is a big mistake around 3:18 in the choirless Main Title. Neil
posted 04-04-2005 08:48 PM PT (US)

BMikeJ Standard Userer	I don't know about the rest of you but I actually own all three versions of Cutthroat Island When I listen in the car, which is where I do most of my listening, I can absolutely tell there's a sonic difference between each release. Keep in mind, we're talking about a score that was recorded under good conditions. I think it sounds better and I definitely hear an improvement over the previous releases. As for the bonus cues, who cares why they are on there? If you program that stuff, you still have about 2 hours of music. Isn't that like 50 minutes longer than the previous release? As for the pricing, Prometheus CDs come from Europe. The Euro is not kind to us these days.
posted 04-04-2005 10:43 PM PT (US)

BMikeJ Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Indysolo: And there is a big mistake around 3:18 in the choirless Main Title. Neil Neil, what is the mistake? It's the same take they used in the picture, isn't it?
posted 04-04-2005 10:46 PM PT (US)

Indysolo Standard Userer	It's not the same take. Neil
posted 04-05-2005 06:51 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Bitch, bitch, bitch.....
posted 04-05-2005 07:52 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Mike, if you definitely hear an improvement, where is it? Tell me where you can hear this distinct improvement. I own all the releases, too, so that's not the issue. Perhaps I should get in my car too to hear the improvements? Or my schooner? There's no improvement in sound. Not to me. If someone thinks otherwise, I am open to the idea. This isn't bitching... it's perhaps a test of my own ears, or a chance for anyone who thinks otherwise to get down to business and point out the points. I want to hear the improvements.
posted 04-05-2005 09:03 AM PT (US)

BMikeJ Standard Userer	Peter, I'm not the only person who has noted an improvement in the sound so there must be something to it, right?
posted 04-05-2005 11:15 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	No disrespect here, but quit dodging me bullets. If there is a "substantial" improvement in sound, please give me an example. I think this is the third time I've asked for it. No one else here is suggesting there is improved sound, so who are you talking about? So far: two votes for no improvement, and only one vote for "substantial" improvement. Even Thaxton made no mention of improved or remastered sound in his description provided by Woods up there, which would have been a big selling point. To my ears, there's no improvement. I can't hear it. I would love to be told otherwise, but not "just because others say so." Dude, I'm a Macadamia nut. Not very easy to crack.
posted 04-05-2005 01:30 PM PT (US)

Jeff78 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: Even Thaxton made no mention of improved or remastered sound in his description That's because he ran out of diet coke and fish chips while he was typing it up.
posted 04-05-2005 02:04 PM PT (US)

BMikeJ Standard Userer	I'm not dodging any bullets. You are speaking as if you are owed some kind of answer and you're not. Listening to music, as you well know, is very subjective. Just because I hear a tree fall in the forest doesn't mean you are going to hear it nor does it mean you're going to hear it the same way I do. So asking for a specific section where this music has been improved is a waste of time. But... if you want to be more specific, I'm sure if you look at the wav forms of the Main Title, from each of the three releases, I'm sure you'll be able to tell the music has been worked on. I'm not clear on why you are pushing this nor am I clear on why you are being so antogonizing with me. We've never had any problems in the past, that I'm aware of. I'm also not clear on why you're making such an issue out of a product you are carrying in your store. Don't you want to sell this thing? Maybe not... Why stop here in this thread? Why not add your own review of the album and clearly state there is no improvement on the sound.
posted 04-05-2005 03:19 PM PT (US)

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