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Bond1965 Standard Userer	Listening to the new Phantom of the Opera CD here. Some of the vocals could have been stronger. Mainly Gerard Butler's Phantom. I think on first listen my biggest complaint is too much dialogue & Sound effects where none are needed. (i.e. The fairground,The duel,The carriage ride) It really detracts from the underscore of those sequences which is quite well done. The orchestrations are actually the best thing about this version so far. (Although the song "The Phantom of the Opera" seems to be a lot slower than the Broadway cast version.) I haven't gotten to the horrible new song sung by Minnie Driver at the end. I did hear it online earlier and can't believe they chose to end the film with that terrible pop arrangement and weak vocal. (No wonder she was dubbed for the film sequences. Granted that role was vocally way out of her range.) James Just was listening again in the car. The song "The Phantom of the Opera" really could have lost the electric guitar and it would have been greatly improved. It's the only song in the score that really seems out of place because of that. [Message edited by Bond1965 on 11-24-2004]
posted 11-23-2004 07:11 PM PT (US)

joan hue Standard Userer	Thanks for the information. I'm curious about this movie. At one time I heard that Antonio Banderas was being considered for the part of the Phantom. He can sing.
posted 11-23-2004 07:50 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Bond1965: I think on first listen my biggest complaint is too much dialogue & Sound effects where none are needed. Agreed. At times it sounds like they just took the movie audio tracks and threw them on the CD. It's even more annoying on headphones.
posted 11-23-2004 10:37 PM PT (US)

Steve Hughes Standard Userer	Does anybody know what track is used on the Phantom trailer? The really epic, bombastic one? I just picked up the 2CD version of the soundtrack but I don't think it's on there! Anybody help?
posted 12-08-2004 02:26 PM PT (US)

Justin Standard Userer	I believe track 9 on disc two, last half of it
posted 12-08-2004 04:27 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Yep, the End of Point of No Return. Wish they would have left the sound effects out of that part...oh well, thanks for DVD. --Brian [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 12-09-2004]
posted 12-08-2004 11:58 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	I think Joel Schumacher demanded that e-guitar in "Phantom of The Opera"... He wanted the contemporary element to click with his insistence on having well-oiled muscle hunks pounding on drums in key scenes. Ryan
posted 12-09-2004 06:13 AM PT (US)

Steve Hughes Standard Userer	Justin/Bri, found it - thanks!
posted 12-09-2004 08:28 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	The film was outstanding. Gerard Butler did a fantastic job, as did everyone else. Of course the film has its flaws (what film doesn't?), and I don't envy the ADR nightmare I'm sure existed, but I don't think I could have asked for a better adaptation. Absolutely stunning. Can't wait to see it again. Jeron
posted 12-23-2004 07:42 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Here, here! A stunning piece of work that all should see!! My family and I had a great time. And I agree with my slightly taller friend, I can't wait to see it again. --Bri
posted 12-24-2004 09:49 AM PT (US)

Muhlyssa Non-Standard Userer	Hi all. New here. Husband got a free copy of it, loaded it onto my ipod and promptly took it off. Too much chit chat agreed. The Driver song is rubbish. HFPA are retards for nominating it. There had to be better orginal songs this year.
posted 12-25-2004 06:12 AM PT (US)

AaronR1074 Standard Userer	Ack! Oh well. Me and my friends are seeing the film tomorrow afternoon. I'm listening to my Decca remastered version of the original London cast cd to get myself jacked up for it.
posted 12-26-2004 02:03 PM PT (US)

joan hue Standard Userer	I saw the movie and really liked it. Yeah, there are a few miscasts. I was rooting for the charismatic Phantom instead of the lover. The movie was a visual treat, and the music was stunning.
posted 12-27-2004 04:52 PM PT (US)

AaronR1074 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by joan hue: I saw the movie and really liked it. Yeah, there are a few miscasts. I was rooting for the charismatic Phantom instead of the lover. The movie was a visual treat, and the music was stunning. It was a great flick. I saw the show twice at the Wang Centre in Boston so I'm kind of spoiled by the stage version. I would have rather seen Phantom lob fireballs at Raul instead of that ghey swordfight but I understand also the need to humanize him for film. The production values were wonderful and the score was great. Singing was alright. For me, the best performance was of Minnie Driver who really did a fantastic job with the bumbling Soprano "Diva" Carolitta. You bot hated her but wanted to see more of her comedic scenes. Over-all, the film was exactly how I expected it to be. It felt like I was watching the musical on stage. My only problem was there were two old people sitting like 2 seats down from us who wouldn't keep their trapholes shut. They litterally talked through 90% of the film until we both looked over at them really nasty like screaming "Hey will ya SHUT UP! SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH". It got so bad, that when the music to the movie got louder they started talking louder because they couldn't hear each other. I understand this from kids but when it's 70 year olds who should know better it just bothered the hell out of me. Beyond those two geezers the experience was great, but I still like the London cast best.
posted 12-27-2004 09:24 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Ken has written a very good and lengthy review of the soundtrack from his perspective, which is a good one. http://www.moviemusic.com/comments.asp?id=phantomoftheopera2004&author=1109&rn=1 Great review, Ken!
posted 01-07-2005 09:22 AM PT (US)

Ken S Standard Userer	Thank you, Peter, for publishing it! (And especially thank you for publishing it DESPITE the few very odd sentences here and there in the review -- I wrote the review in quite a passion in one night - and I was actually exhausted when checking the text, so there is really couple of sentences that are quite out of the place -- but nevertheless, as the text came from my heart, I don't see much point in correcting the few odd things...) Though there is just one peculiar thing I'd like to ask you, Peter: Why are the italics always changed into normal text in my reviews? On this message board I can confess that it was the Filmtracks review that truly made my blood to boil - and the reason why I wanted to write my thoughts somewhere. So, once again, thank you, Peter! Today I saw the Phantom movie for the sixth time (though it was the first time for my sister) - and after this night I can probably say, quite happily, that "...It's over now, the music of the night". KEN
posted 01-07-2005 03:13 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Ken, the only way I will know if italics are supposed to be someplace in a review is if some code is put there around the words, like <i>italics!</i>. Standard web forms only accept caps locks as a modified form of text and that's about it. Something written in a powerful word processor like Word will not translate well if put through a text-based webform. Hope that answers the q. A FilmTracks review making someone's blood boil? Many people agree the boat left that harbor a long time ago. Again, good review Ken. Glad to have it there. I'll make sure lots of people read it.
posted 01-07-2005 03:38 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Ken you the man --Brian NP: Infinity - Bruce Broughton
posted 01-07-2005 06:24 PM PT (US)

joan hue Standard Userer	Great job, Ken. I hadn't noticed the use of Learn To Be Lonely in the film until your review. I watched it for the third time tonight. I really enjoy the unbridled romanticism of the movie version.
posted 01-07-2005 10:40 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Awesome review, Ken. Bravo. I mirror Joan's thoughts.
posted 01-08-2005 12:25 AM PT (US)

Howard L Standard Userer	I saw the Broadway production with Crawford in the title role and for all the hoopla from the press & audience devotees this show didn't really send me. A video (MTVer?) of the Music of the Night number, on the other hand, BLEW me away. I'm looking forward with wide open mind to a film viewing.
posted 01-09-2005 09:36 PM PT (US)

Ken S Standard Userer	After the eight (Omygod!!!) viewing of the movie I can honestly say that Crawford & Company's original cast recording starts to sound REALLY BAD. Both the "Il Muto" segment (Poor Fool, He Makes Me Laugh) and the "Masquerade/Notes Reprise" feature so over-the-top vocals by Michael Crawford that I can't hardly believe I myself have taken his talents quite seriously in the past. Compared to Gerard Butler's exquisite performance, Crawford's Phantom is mainly a clown during the "dramatic" spoken vocals. quote: Originally posted by Howard L:I'm looking forward with wide open mind to a film viewing. Excellent choice of approach! KEN PS. My warmest thanks to PeterK for publishing the improved, expanded version of my review. Now, it's all much more understandable and thorough. [Message edited by Ken S on 01-10-2005] [Message edited by Ken S on 01-10-2005]
posted 01-10-2005 07:33 AM PT (US)

Howard L Standard Userer	...that I can't hardly believe I myself have taken his talents quite seriously in the past. I positively despised his performance in Hello, Dolly! and remain non-committal re same in A Funny Thing...Forum, but must admit he seemed a fine Phantom on stage. Vocally (not to mention mercifully), his Cornelius singing voice came through on just a few occasions. ***************************************************************** [Message edited by Howard L on 01-10-2005]
posted 01-10-2005 06:39 PM PT (US)

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