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    Topic:   Doyle to Score next Harry Potter film!!

     Kevin
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    So reports Music From The Movies...

    Patrick Doyle scores new 'Harry Potter' film

    Cool.

    K


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    posted 09-22-2004 04:47 PM PT (US)     

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    Wow. I remember we had this discussion about 2 years ago regarding Harry Potter 3.

    Woah... here it is!

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    posted 09-22-2004 04:56 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Only this time it seems to be for real. Very disappointed that Williams won't do the 4th, of all Potters. But if it's not him, Doyle seems to be an excellent choice.

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    posted 09-22-2004 05:56 PM PT (US)     

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    I agree 100% with Marian.

    Jz

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    posted 09-22-2004 06:05 PM PT (US)     

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    Wait and see, it's a long way off yet and anything can change?!

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    posted 09-22-2004 06:09 PM PT (US)     

     Al
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    I second Peter's response. Wow. This is exciting news!

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    posted 09-22-2004 07:42 PM PT (US)     

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    Hmmmmm....I'll be the first one to snag this CD....

    As much as I love what Williams has done, it will be nice to have a composer change.

    I vote Bruce Broughton for OOTP.

    That's "Order of the Phoenix" for the non-hip crowd

    --The Geek!

    [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 09-22-2004]

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    posted 09-22-2004 08:30 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Williams did fine work on Potter's 1 & 3. William Ross tried his best, but I'd rather see a guy like Doyle write something entirely new than see another composer take the same Williams themes and give them another spin around the block. This move isn't too surprising considering that Mike Newell is directing. What will really be interesting is to see who Mira Nair picks to compose for her Harry Potter film.

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    posted 09-22-2004 08:59 PM PT (US)     

     Big Owl
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    A Mychael Danna HP score would be interesting...

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    posted 09-22-2004 09:25 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Lou,

    Mira Nair ----> Mychael Danna

    Unless you know something we don't?

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    posted 09-22-2004 09:26 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    Lou,

    Mira Nair ----> Mychael Danna

    Unless you know something we don't?


    Vanity Fair?

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    posted 09-22-2004 10:41 PM PT (US)     

     Maestro Sartori
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    Who else is pissed off because Williams finally hit the "creative stride" for Potter with POA, and now he's not in it??? I only loved Doyle's Frankenstein score, and I'm not ready or willing to accept Goblet from him, unless they allow him to use William's themes.

    JC

    Here begins my protest...

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    posted 09-22-2004 10:56 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    Very exciting news, and it comes as a total shock to me! This will be quite interesting indeed....

    Ah, and reading over that old thread Peter linked to reminds me how happy I am that Prisoner of Azkaban turned out so well. Cuaron definitely raised the bar to Olympic heights. I hope Newell knows what he's doing.

    Kirk

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    posted 09-22-2004 11:03 PM PT (US)     

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    I loved POA, I thought it was not only the best Potter score, but a great branching out for Williams who never fails to surprise me.

    I am looking forward to Doyle, and Danna would be an interesting choice too, but I'm still voting Bruce Broughton!

    Can I vote Goldenthal for the final film

    Kirk, buddy, I'm no worried about Newell, I'm hoping the final time is not like 2 hours and 10 minutes. GOF and OOTP are epic, I just hope they don't gut the story’s for sake of run time. As much as I liked POA, I felt they should have added 15 minutes at least. I think WB should release "Potter Extended" DVDs with like 3 hours cuts or something, that would be cool.

    --Bri Guy

    [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 09-23-2004]

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    posted 09-23-2004 08:11 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
    Can I vote Goldenthal for the final film

    That would be interesting, in a good way.

    quote:
    I think WB should release "Potter Extended" DVDs with like 3 hours cuts or something, that would be cool.

    That would certainly work very well for COS, I'd really like to see some of the deleted scenes from that back in the movie.

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    posted 09-23-2004 09:45 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Maestro Sartori:
    I only loved Doyle's Frankenstein score

    Just curious if you have heard Doyle's music to HENRY V, A LITTLE PRINCESS, MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING or most recently SECONDHAND LIONS? If so, did you not like or love those scores? I did!

    Just wondering...

    -Erik-

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    posted 09-23-2004 10:02 AM PT (US)     

     Jeff78
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    No one has mentioned his great score for Needful Things.

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    posted 09-23-2004 01:32 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm not real familiar with Doyle's work, and so I'm relunctant to accept this news (I mean, whether I accept it or not, I suppose it doesn't make a difference either way!)

    As long as he uses William's orignal themes as his groundwork I think I'd be okay. I mean any good composer would look to his predecessor for a backdrop on which to formulate his music (For a series at least).

    As long as he sticks to those strong themes Williams has cooked up, I'd be interested to hear what he has to offer. It's just like getting a new director, he has the past director's work to go off of, but he does it in his own way.

    Hopefully Doyle will take the same approach respectfully transmitting William's original ideas with his own twist.

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    posted 09-23-2004 01:37 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Erik Woods:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Maestro Sartori:
    [b]I only loved Doyle's Frankenstein score
    <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Just curious if you have heard Doyle's music to HENRY V, A LITTLE PRINCESS, MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING or most recently SECONDHAND LIONS? If so, did you not like or love those scores? I did!

    Just wondering...

    -Erik-[/B]


    I have not listsned to those scores, though I did see Much Ado... Those are classical scores by their period settings. Harry Potter, though in a period atmosphere, requires more magic, more whimsy, and more extra "unknown" qualities.

    I don't know how to express my displeasure at this time. I'm still quite livid by the decision.

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    posted 09-23-2004 01:55 PM PT (US)     

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    hehe.. well I have never actually seen any of the Harry Potter films or heard teh scores.. so this news is not a big loss to me. I doubt I will ever watch them.. I think I saw about 5 minutes of the first once and that was enough. I'd almost rather sit through Spy Kids 3D.

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    posted 09-23-2004 02:52 PM PT (US)     

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    Fantastic news! I'm very excited about this for two reasons mainly: a) Williams has bowed out inteligently from a succesful franchise and opted for something more challenging, that's what an artist does. And 2), Patrick Doyle has a chance to do a very mainstream movie that will win him the attention that he so richly deserves, one of the finest composers working in the business.

    Bravo!

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    posted 09-23-2004 03:50 PM PT (US)     

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    Did Williams suggest Doyle?I mean after all, Williams once replaced Doyle on STEPMOM...

    Philipp

    np: superman (john williams)

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    posted 09-23-2004 04:32 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Philipp:
    Did Williams suggest Doyle?I mean after all, Williams once replaced Doyle on STEPMOM...

    Philipp

    np: superman (john williams)


    Doyle may have been Newell's suggestion. They did work together on Donnie Brascoe.

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    posted 09-23-2004 06:45 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Maestro Sartori:
    I have not listsned to those scores, though I did see Much Ado... Those are classical scores by their period settings. Harry Potter, though in a period atmosphere, requires more magic, more whimsy, and more extra "unknown" qualities.

    I don't know how to express my displeasure at this time. I'm still quite livid by the decision.


    Perhaps you should listen to those score before saying that he doesn't know how to score a Harry Potter-type movie. Beside Harry Potter stories are getting darker aren't they? Patrick Doyle is a fine choice.

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    posted 09-23-2004 08:41 PM PT (US)     

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    My feeling is that you can expect to hear very little Williams in a score by Doyle, just enough to make a connection between the films and then Doyle will be off & running on his own stuff.

    I find it interesting that the producers are willing to try different hands at the helms of these films (the Alien franchise all had interesting different directors as well).

    Since the basic idea is just an upper class British boarding school with magic thrown in, I'm interested to see what a British director and an Indian director are going to do with the subject. Obviously they can't travel far from the material in the original books and the overall scheme of what the audience will expect, so it'll be interesting to see what touches they work in (if any) and where they'll be.

    Since Nair used Rachel Portman on Vanity Fair that's an option that people should consider. Maybe Nair will opt for another female composer (imagine Shirley Walker or Debbie Wiseman).

    By the way, what's the gen on Williams bowing out again after doing the 3rd film, is he gone for good, is it because he's taken on other projects that people here know about?

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    posted 09-23-2004 08:56 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Lou Goldberg:
    Since Nair used Rachel Portman on Vanity Fair that's an option that people should consider. Maybe Nair will opt for another female composer (imagine Shirley Walker or Debbie Wiseman).

    By the way, what's the gen on Williams bowing out again after doing the 3rd film, is he gone for good, is it because he's taken on other projects that people here know about?


    Firstly, Mychael Danna scored Mira Nair's four most recent films, including Vanity Fair.

    As for the Williams question - I think he's proactively sought out the scoring duties on Rob Marshall's Memoirs of a Geisha, which together with War of the Worlds and Star Wars III would make him a very busy boy leading up to next summer.

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    posted 09-23-2004 09:34 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, my initial thought is that I'm disappointed. I had hoped Williams would be able to score the entire series. (I think his contribution to CoS was significant enough to consider it a Williams score, and I thought Ross' work was the best ever "adaptation" of Williams' themes for a film.)

    However, as others have said, Doyle is an excellent choice for a successor. I do hope he references Williams' themes at least a little, just to provide some thematic continuity, but I'm also sure he'll be able to come up with some terrific ones of his own as well.

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    posted 09-24-2004 03:18 AM PT (US)     

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    As Timmer says, it's a long way off ( and anything can happen in the next five minutes). Still, if it comes to pass, I think Doyle could do some great work here. Of course, John Williams would be my first choice, just to keep things uniform, but I'm not really extremist in my love of Harry Potter movies anyway, so I can take or leave whatever is thrown at us. And if it's Doyle, well fine.

    Come to think of it, Patrick Doyle did some Williamsish string serpentation in the counterpoint to his "No Nobbly Nobblybits" on HENRY V, very British-sounding, which wouldn't be at all out of place in HARRY P.

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    posted 09-25-2004 02:17 PM PT (US)     

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    Looks like Vanity Fair does have a MD score at that. I glitched. Well, unless the producers have other ideas, I guess we can expect an MD Potter score in the future.

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    posted 09-26-2004 01:32 AM PT (US)     

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    Hmmm still plenty of time for changes, but Doyle could contribute something pretty cool to the series IMO. Although I will echo the sentiment that Broughton has a cracking Potter score in him.

    As for Danna; I was also very much looking forward to his Hulk score.

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    posted 09-30-2004 05:12 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Pete, I agree with every single word you wrote there.

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    posted 09-30-2004 06:02 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm a big Doyle fan (and a Williams fan), so this is great news for me.

    Perhaps the Harry Potter films will be like the James Bond films: one composer's "sound" to get the series going and then an opportunity for others to keep the series musically fresh by offering their own takes on the stories.

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    posted 10-01-2004 11:26 AM PT (US)     

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    I agree.

    [Message edited by Kevin on 10-01-2004]

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    posted 10-01-2004 12:30 PM PT (US)     

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    WTF?!?!?!?!

    I just read THIS at Dark Horizons:

    Whilst John Williams may be seeing his "Superman" theme getting a revival, his "Harry Potter" tunes seem to be going the way of the dodo.

    Jarvis Cocker is set to write the soundtrack for the next film - the currently shooting "Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire" according to recent reports in British tabloid The Sun. Movie bosses apparently wanted a trendy British musician to score the new film rather than utilising stalwart John Williams.

    The good news is that Cocker was the top choice by the various cast, including Radcliffe for the job. A film insider says: "He is a very talented musician who is a big fan of movies and knows exactly how they work. You may just think Jarvis is the bloke in specs who fronted Pulp but he is a man with many hidden depths".


    Considering their source is The Sun tabloid, I doubt this is true. But still...

    James

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    posted 10-21-2004 08:48 AM PT (US)     

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    I expect someone once again mixed up score and songs. Probably rumours about the source music in the Yule ball scene which are getting out of hand.

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    posted 10-21-2004 12:28 PM PT (US)     

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    I really do hope they have mixed it up. It was just announced on British TV that Cocker would be writing the 'soundtrack' for Harry Potter.
    I hope it's just songs.....this could be truely horrific.

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    posted 10-21-2004 02:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Just got this off of The-Leaky-Cauldron.net.

    James

    ********************************************

    GoF Film Music News: Jarvis Cocker New Film Score Composer?

    A few days ago we told you that UK music group Franz Ferdinand may contribute a few songs for the upcoming Goblet of Fire film. As many readers have let us know, in a recent interview with BBC Radio 1 they confirmed their involvement in the film. Ferdinand guitarist Nick McCarthy said:

    "We were going to collaborate with Jarvis, Jarvis Cocker." "He's written three songs already and he wants us to write another one with him, so hopefully we'll have the time and energy!""No, we do have the energy, I'm sure. It's such an exciting thing to do, it's incredible.They've asked us to be in the film. Something about the four weird sisters or ugly sisters, (it's actually the Weird Sisters) playing bagpipes or something, I don't know."
    However today, comes this report from the tabloid The Sun, that former Pulp singer Jarvis Cocker will be actually be writing the score for the Goblet of Fire film.

    "JARVIS COCKER has been signed to write the soundtrack for the fourth Harry Potter film. As well as composing the music for Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire, the former PULP frontman will make a cameo appearance.
    Movie bosses were determined to bring in a trendy British musician to give the film a sprinkling of Britpop cool after the previous Potter flicks were scored by prolific American composer JOHN WILLIAMS - most famous for Star Wars, Indiana Jones, ET and the chilling theme from Jaws.

    But new Potter director MIKE NEWELL wanted to make sure his movie appealed more to a generation of music-mad teens."


    The report goes on to state:

    "A source at movie giants Warner Bros tells me: "Everyone here is really excited about Jarvis being involved in Goblet Of Fire."
    "He is a very talented musician who is a big fan of movies and knows exactly how they work. You may just think Jarvis is the bloke in specs who fronted Pulp but he is a man with many hidden depths."

    This would seem to contradict a previous report that noted film composer Patrick Doyle would be writing the score for the Goblet of Fire movie.

    Please Note: We are looking into these reports and can not yet confirm them. We will update when we can.


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    posted 10-21-2004 02:47 PM PT (US)     

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    I love these reports where someone has to "write the soundtrack", where the journalists have no idea idiotic that sounds. I just can't imagine the HP series taking this big a shift as far as music. Shoehorning Britpop songs could easily date the film. If they want a non-American composer, that would be the aforementioned Patrick Doyle, who would be great for the film. This shift would be akin to the Bond producers, after 3 films with John Barry, decided on the 4th Bond film that the Stones would compose the score.

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    posted 10-22-2004 07:55 AM PT (US)     

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    I think if anything, Jarvis Cocker has done the songs for the Yule Ball Room sequence in the film, with Doyle still doing the score.

    But we'll see, I'll be bothered if this guy does the score.

    --Brian

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    posted 10-23-2004 10:27 AM PT (US)     

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    Just read this at Dark Horizons:

    Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire: Patrick Doyle has been confirmed as the composer, not Jarvis Cocker as reported yesterday. Cocker is involved in a minor capacity though.

    Not a really a surprise.

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