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Does this mean it will be composed by JUST James Newton Howard & Hans Zimmer or will there be Zimmer's posse involved in the proceedings too. At this rate, perhaps we can have a committee like the one Quincy Jones used on "The Color Purple." I think there were at least 12 composers on that score. (And all those guys to just re-use Delerue's theme from "Our Mother's House.")

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Of the day, or ever?

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Originally posted by Bond1965:
Okay...I'm going to be the big meanie devil's advocate here. (pun intended)

Does this mean it will be composed by JUST James Newton Howard & Hans Zimmer or will there be Zimmer's posse involved in the proceedings too. At this rate, perhaps we can have a committee like the one Quincy Jones used on "The Color Purple." I think there were at least 12 composers on that score. (And all those guys to just re-use Delerue's theme from "Our Mother's House.")

James

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What would be wrong if Zimmer's posse scored it with him and Newton Howard?

Clayton

IMO, this will be an awesome score, to say the least!

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What would be wrong if Zimmer's posse scored it with him and Newton Howard?

Clayton

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Can you imagine the mess? Zimmer's 10-member composers posse with JNH's 8 orchestrators and 2 conductors.

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[b]What would be wrong if Zimmer's posse scored it with him and Newton Howard?

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Can you imagine the mess? Zimmer's 10-member composers posse with JNH's 8 orchestrators and 2 conductors.

It's like trying to figure out which one is your girlfriend after a drunken all night orgy. [/B]

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Composers join forces on 'Batman'

By Sheigh Crabtree and Borys Kit

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer, two of the film industry's most prominent composers, are in discussions to collaborate on "Batman Begins," starring Christian Bale as the Caped Crusader.

While it is not uncommon for multiple composers to write the score for a movie, those efforts are not typically collaborative. In this case, longtime friends Zimmer and Howard are looking to join forces on the Warner Bros. project.

A spokeswoman for Howard confirmed that the co-composing plan for "Batman" is "very likely to happen" but that exact plans will be formalized "closer toward January," with scoring set to begin "in April or May." A spokesman for Zimmer would not comment on the possibility of the collaboration, saying only that "Batman" is a sensitive project and the composers' "schedules are hectic." "Batman," directed by Christopher Nolan, is scheduled to be released domestically June 17.

The composers previously discussed joining forces on the Johnny Depp thriller "Secret Window," but those plans fell apart.

"It's unusual for two such high-profile composers to join efforts," Film Score Monthly editor Jeff Bond said. "I can't think of another movie that has two composers of that stature writing together. But (Howard and Zimmer) have been looking for something to do together for some time."

Bond cited 1954's "The Egyptian," which was co-composed by Alfred Newman and Bernard Herrmann, as one of the few major precedents. "Each (composer) wrote about half of the cues, working on his own," Bond said. "(In an earlier era), it used to be common to have teams of composers, but the score was credited to the head of music at the studio."

However, with the decline of music departments at the studios, he said that Media Ventures -- Zimmer's privately owned Santa Monica-based music studio, which has housed composers ranging from Trevor Rabin, Harry Gregson-Williams, John Powell, Trevor Jones, Klaus Badelt and Trevor Horn, among others -- has become a centralized hub for studios looking for composers.

"What's interesting is that Hans Zimmer has sort of become that traditional head of music at the studio," Bond said. "He's head of his own music studio, and he applies that working methodology to his own composing projects."

Zimmer recently completed the score on DreamWorks' "Shark Tale." He is working on James L. Brooks' "Spanglish" and has Ridley Scott's "Kingdom of Heaven" up next. Howard recently completed Michael Mann's "Collateral" and is going on to Sydney Pollack's "The Interpreter."

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

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Is that really that bad? The part about not being able to tell who wrote what I mean, not the drunken all night orgy thing. And to solve the orgy problem it's quite simple. I can't stress this enough, everyone needs to wear name tags.

Clayton

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² Yes, this idiot knows that it is premature to call it "just another film score" without having heard a single note of it. This idiot cannot imagine it being a mind blowing experience which will shatter all film scoring techniques heard in the past just because two of the best film composers get together to write a score (along with all their buddies).

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I guess under all the excitement over this historic team up, nobody remembered to mention neither composer is very good!

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Now, if he had said, "As a matter of fact, neither composer is very good," that would be something to get upset about.

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Do you automatically assume that what a person is saying is fact if they don't tell you otherwise? I remember as far back as second grade we had worksheets where we read sentences and had to figure out whether a statement was fact or opinion. "Neither composer is very good" is quite clearly an opinion.

Now, if he had said, "As a matter of fact, neither composer is very good," that would be something to get upset about.

Kirk

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Just got this off AOL Entertainment news:

Composers join forces on 'Batman'

By Sheigh Crabtree and Borys Kit

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... Zimmer's privately owned Santa Monica-based music studio, which has housed composers ranging from Trevor Rabin, Harry Gregson-Williams, John Powell, Trevor Jones, Klaus Badelt and Trevor Horn, among others -- has become a centralized hub for studios looking for composers.

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Apparently they assimilated every composer named Trevor...and for that matter, when did Trevor Horn become a film composer?

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Maybe if it is actually only Zimmer and Howard, it might work. But if they really bring in a posse, I think at best it will be mediocre and at worst, awful. I think it will serve the picture and be completely forgettable away from it, like a find a lot of the MV stuff

Batman will never be the same without the orginal score written by Danny Elfman.

Ok people, for the last time- This Batman movie is going to be vastly different from ALL the others. The style and look of the movie just goes to show that the filmmakers are trying to run as far away from past incarnations as possible. So why would the music stay the same? Danny Elfman's score is defininately on my top five favorite scores of all time, but his style is probably not appropriate to the sensibilities of Batman Begins. Elfman's music fits Burton's films marvelously, but it would seem out of place in Chris Nolan's vision. Much like the movie, I have NO idea what to expect from the music (other than it will kickass of course). We all need to walk into this movie with an open mind and throw all pre-concieved notions of "how a Batman film should look and sound" out of the door. IT'S GOING TO BE VERRRRRRY DIFFERENT!! Burton's films set the bar, and everything Batman related after that had a similar look and sound in one way or another. Much like how Burton changed the way we looked at Batman back in 1989, I think that the way we look at Batman will change after this film comes out.

James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer will do an amazing job I'm sure. Just listening to Howard's UNBREAKABLE, SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS, A PERFECT MURDER, and WATERWORLD proves that he is a master craftsman at writing dark, moody and adventurous film music. Zimmer's scores for HANNBAL, THE RING, THE THIN RED LINE, and recently KING ARTHUR are perfect examples that he can create dark and melodic soundscapes as well as pulsing, driving action music perfect for the vision Chris Nolan has conjured.