There were a few surreal instances in the finale that had myself and the audience laughing out loud -- I'm talking about the Butch and Sundance like shots of an escaping Predator and Lex (Lathan), as they are chased down by a giantic fireball. I'm not sure if these are meant to be funny, but they sure as hell are.

The score was sadly generic in the film, but I bet it'll play better on CD. It also sounded fantastic -- lots of live percussion I think.

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I really wasnt expecting it to be a great score though, when I heard non of Goldsmith, Horner or Silvestris themes would be heard. [/B]

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SILVESTRI????
SILVESTRI????

Get ur head examined!

Easy to recommend for popcorn muncher...not much else going on.

Why they didn't take the setting of the original AVP comic book I'll never know.

Even as a popcorn movie it was a little lame as the action wasn't very original and the only decent scene was the first and last Alien/Predator fight.

The music also let me down. Having enjoyed Kloser's 'The Day After Tomorrow', the score seemed like 'Superfreeze' over and over. It lacked the horror and grace of Goldsmith's score, and the intensity of Aliens or Predator. Couple of decent percussive moments though. I hope it sounds better on CD like Ryan said (many scores can pull a fast one now and then).

But I'll also agree and say that they should have used the comic's story. It was infuriating to see the special on Fox and look at how they perpetuated it as Anderson's idea (along with negating the comics, toys, and video games which were how the idea came along).

I liked the opening shot of the space station resembling a Queen, I like the Weyland/Bishop connection, I liked that in the 2nd scene with the scientists spotting the heat signature there was Frankenstein vs Wolfman playing on the T.V. The build-up, for me, was good, with much tension, and really enjoyed the Pred/Alien fights and the eventual team-up between the woman and the Predator. So, not as bad as I heard, better then Resurrection, on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3, in my book.

Caring about the characters was the element that made the first two Alien films and both Predator films great, and was the main downfall of Alien 3/4.

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Originally posted by nightwing:
I was disappointed that everytime there could be a "money shot",

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The money shot? dude this thread's about the Alien versus Predator movie!

(this post may contain spoilers and incorrect information)

Anyway I thought the movie was alright but could have been much more drawn out. Perhaps 2 or 3 reels longer.

Alot of the story seemed to jump around too fast. Like the face huggers for example, in Alien it took several hours for them to inpregnate a human and a few more hours for an Alien to burst through the chest. Although the movie didn't extend for several hours there was still a sense of time that passed with in the movie through several scenes before a Alien would burst through the chest. In AVP it all seems to happen within a matter of minutes!

Also as Nightwing said...there are very few actual fight scenes. In fact theres really only one and its sorta lame, because it was badly edited. When the creatures would wrestle it was hard to see what was even happening because the camera kept spinning over them and cutting to different agles every half second!
And the biggest mistake is not only killing off two of the Predators way too early in the movie but having them being killed by the same Alien! Almost back to back! Each Predator should have had 1 fight scene each and scenes of them fighting together shoulder to shoulder.

Correct me if I'm wrong but in the first series of the 1989 comic books weren't there supposed to be 5 Predators?, and only 2 are supposed to die by Aliens and the last 3 died by blowing themselves up when they are out numbered by a massive army of Aliens. That part was actually shown, but in a flashback scene where the Aliens out smarted the Predators by taking out an entire nation of people and muliplied thier army to 10,000+ before the Predators had arrived, and waited in the base Pyramid until it was unlocked and they were able to reach the surface. Why Anderson changed the whole storyline is unknown to me. Also I don't think the Predators actually formed a real truce with any human until way in the future. But somehow a truce forms with a Predator and Lex in present times. um.......ok....

The PG-13 rating didn't really bother me. I heard the orginal edit of the film was rated R, but I think it was do to foul language more than the violence. In this movie the Predators are not hunting humans, so there was no need for decapitation, and nude skined bodies hanging from the ceilings.

At the end we see the birth of a Predalion, It would have been cool to see it in action for a least a few minutes, because when they are fully grown they're nerely invinciable.

Bloopers:
I noticed one scene where Lex and a Predator walk into a room full of Alien eggs, as Lex looks around the room she notices all the eggs have already hatched. (We already know thier hatched because we see them hatching as the guy in the cocoon starts shooting at them several scenes ealier) But later in that scene the Predator looks at the eggs and they aren't hatched at all, they are still closed with the face huggers still inside.

Get ur head examined!

Am I wrong, or didn't Silvestri compose the music for both Predator films?

J.C.

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Scariest thing about the movie? A photogenic woman who you know in real life is NOT named "LEX". Brrrrrr!

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Originally posted by justin boggan:
Yes, he did.

And a bunch of dickwads bought multiple copies when Varese released it and half the people who wanted it for the music, are rooted.

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I could buy it. I was broke.

It's not my fault idiots bought it up to make a profit on eBay and leave people like me who love the music, in the dust.
Now, there is nothing wrong with buying another copy to sell later, but there are people and businesses who bought up multiple copies just to sell.

I saw one on eBay that called the score "songs". They guy didn't evemn understand!

I'm dealing with it.

Get over yourself.

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Originally posted by justin boggan:
rayn, di a bunch of jackasses buy them up so they could sell then at auction?

Didn't think so.

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No, probably sold them at Sci-Fi/horror conventions for 10x what they paid them for.

I remember I wanted a Teddy Ruxbin for christmas. But all the other kids on teh block got them. Those ****ers!

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Originally posted by rkeaveney:
Justin -- film score collecting isn't a charity-based exercise. It may not be ethically perfect to buy several copies of PREDATOR and then dish them out on eBay, but these people had the $$ at the right time. I believe that's the "American Way", isn't it? Cash + Opportunity = More Cash?

Ryan

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See that Justin, even a canadian knows the true "American way"

Hey Jeff, Wanker! ;-)

and "CHiPs" and DUEL since I haven't said them in a while.

It's a very enjoyable piece, but just doesn't translate to the film at all. Even Aliens didn't have many heroics in it. I may get the rest of the album, but the action material didn't really interest me.

Here's hoping Kloser (or Wanker or whoever) can conjure up some new stuff for his next assignment. Pretty promising so far

NP: Alien vs. Predator