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Topic: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, now that the movie's out

James

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What, no post from Brian yet? I was going to post my opinions in a new "What have you seen?" thread, but since it's pretty much a guarantee that someone will at some point start a thread here devoted entirely to Harry Potter, I guess it might as well be me.
To begin.... Big fan of the books. The third one's my favorite. Big fan of Alfonso Cuaron, I think he's an incredibly gifted director. Not such a big fan of Chris Columbus, but I do think the previous two Potter films are definitely his best work (as a director) to date, and until tonight I was pleased with how he brought J.K. Rowling's world to life.
What a difference a director makes. Prisoner of Azkaban really puts the first two films in a whole new perspective, and not a favorable one. The first two Harry Potter films are now solid, entertaining children's films...but this one is on an entirely different level. Fans may not think so....I've been reading that people are upset that Cuaron has made so many "changes." Yes, it's true, he's made some considerable changes--and each and every one of them is a massive imrpovement over something that was already good in the first place. I'm overjoyed that Cuaron was given as much free reign over the material as he seems to have been given, and one of the first major feats he should be applauded for is that he manages to make Rowling's world stranger, eerier, more mysterious and fantastic, and somehow simulatenously render it more realistic in the process. Much of this is certainly due to Cuaron's avoidance of the "gee whiz!" mentality that permeates the first two films. Whereas Chris Columbus seems to be jumping around in a high-pitched voice yelling, "See! Look how magical and wonderful this place is," Cuaron shows you something magical and treats it like it's real, as if it could actually be a part of our world. Cuaron seems to really believe in magic while Columbus only sort of likes the idea of it.
He accomplishes this in many different ways. First is a change in the production design. The grounds of Hogwarts in this film make the setting of the first two seem almost commonplace. It's astounding how a change as simplistic as placing Hagrid's hut at the bottom of steep hill can make such a big difference. Not only does it seem more realistic than just having everything on the grounds on a nice, level plain (and I only just realized that made no sense, considering the castle is surrounded by mountains), but it also makes the trip down there more visually interesting.
Cuaron also takes advantage of his first really huge budget to indulge in some nifty camera tricks that couldn't be done without the benefit of CGI...entering a room through a mirror, dollying straight through windows, etc. And the cinematography by Michael Seresin is just fantastic. Cuaron is clearly a director very concerned with his films' visual identities: Azkaban's camera work is very much in the same style as his other films (all shot by Emmanuel Lubezki), and he puts forth the effort to try things that Columbus simply doesn't think about. Cuaron will often go much longer than most directors do without cutting away. In more active scenes, such as when Harry is joined by the Weasleys at the Leaky Caudlron, he opts instead to have the camera weaving in and out of poles and people, but it never gets overbearing or unnatural. In more intimate scenes the camera will stay focused on one character, as in a conversation between Harry and Professor Lupin about Harry's parents where Lupin,as he talks, moves to the background, facing away from the audience, while we watch only Harry's reactions in the foreground. Extremely simple, but exquisite.The other thing that sells that scene and the movie as a whole is the acting, and there's no shortage of great performances here. David Thewlis is just wonderful as Lupin, perfectly embodying in every way the character that Rowling writes in her novels. Gary Oldman is expectedly wonderful as Sirius Black and his screen persona actually adds quite a lot to the film. Emma Thompson captures Professor Trelawney perfectly. And I was really taken with Michael Gambon's performance as Dumbledore, replacing Richard Harris. I expect this will not be a common or popular opinion, but I think it's a considerable improvement over Harris's performance. Harris was never enthusiastic about the role, and it seems that if it hadn't been for his granddaughter's threat to never speak to him again he would have turned the role down without a second thought. It's only by virtue of the fact that Richard Harris is a fantastic actor that even an autopilot performance was quite good. Gambon, on the other hand, really seems to be enjoying himself and he injects Dumbledore with a sort of quiet exuberance that was missing from Richard Harris's work.
But I would expect nothing less from such actors as these. The really big surprise here is Daniel Radcliffe. While always solid as Harry, he was never very impressive. But here something has changed. Maybe it's the growth spurt, maybe it's Cuaron's direction, maybe it's all the Sex Pistols CDs he was listening to in order to get into that troubled-youth mindset. Whatever the reason, Radcliffe's performance is infinitely better in this film than in either of the previous outings. Harry now has gravity and dimension, as well as that twinkle-in-the-eye that quietly reveals the cleverness missing from the other films. (Come to think of it, you can definitely chalk some of that up to Cuaron. Until now, the films had a tendency to represent Harry as a wide-eyed innocent little kid, but here he has finally become the mischief maker he is in the books.)
The rest of the returning cast continue their good work, though a few of them have little to do. Maggie Smith has all of two scenes and Rupert Grint provides little more than comic relief as Ron (but thankfully he isn't the clownish oaf he was turned into for the second movie). Alan Rickman gets a few juicy scenes and remains incredibly fun to watch (and the perfect incarnation of the Snape of the books), and Emma Watson just keeps getting better with each film.
With all this great stuff, the film does have one big detriment: the special effects, which are generally more in tune with the first film than the second. There's a CG dog that looks great and the dementors are wonderful, but there's also a pretty poorly executed werewolf (a shame, because it looks like it came from an interesting design) and Buckbeak (a hippogriff) never quite gels with the world around him. I understand that feathers can be really tricky to deal with, but I've seen better than this. Buckbeak should be sleek, yes, but not so sleek that he looks reptilian.
But that's not nearly enough to lower my opinion of the film as a whole. It's really quite wonderful, a de-Hollywoodized addition to the series from a director with a good sense of plotting and an unmeasurably vaster imagination than the A-list studio hack who had the controls in his hands before. It does away with all of the insipid dumbing down of the second film ("Oh, right, Phoenix tears have healing powers!"), completely avoids the redundant "Gee whiz!" shots of bewildered faces that took up half of the first film's running time, and is totally devoid of any syrupy sweetness (the medicine is fine on it's own and needs no help going down). This is also the first film of the series to adequately capture J.K. Rowling's sense of humor, which is a bit more subversive than Columbus's sensibilities. I really, really adored it. The bar has been set very, very high with this one; I'm not confident that Mike Newell will be up to the challenge on the next film, and it would be a dream too good to be true if Rowling looked at this one and said she wanted Cuaron back for The Order of the Phoenix. At this point I can't think of any other director who would be more perfect for the assignment.
I'm ecstatic right now...it'll have to be a very, very good year at the movies to keep this film out of my top ten when it's over.
John Williams also hit the ball out of the park on this one. Harry's theme and the "reflection on family" theme from the first two films (both highlighted in "Harry's Wondrous World" from the first album) have both been completely dropped in favor of the new "Window to the Past" theme, and I have no qualms about their absense. It's as if those themes are a remnant of Columbus's forced sweetness and the new theme (more beautiful than either of the other two by far) signals the arrival of real heart and soul. It also features some of his best action writing in quite some time, as well as an appropriately soaring theme for Buckbeak and that raucous "Knight Bus" cue that I just can't get enough of. It's a great score, and if it gets an Oscar nod Williams will have really earned the nomination.
Kirk
[Message edited by James on 06-04-2004]
posted 06-04-2004 03:47 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Thank you....for saving me the trouble of writing nearly exactly the same thing myself, only that I couldn't have expressed it so well. I agree with virtually everything you've said, except one bit about the CGI: I also think the werewolf looked poor (too artificial), but in my opinion, Buckbeak was mostly very good.Thumbs up to the Weasley twins too. The scene where they give Harry the map is hilarious.
I always thought the first two movies were quite good. But they really pale in comparison to the third film, which is - forgive the pun - simply spellbinding.
NP: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
posted 06-04-2004 04:01 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Where was I? My ass was in bed!
Kirk you rule buddy, I'm seeing it tonight with a few family members (all my other friends arn't coming, the mother****ers)
Anyway, I'm pumped like no other.
EXPECTO PATRONUM!!!!

posted 06-04-2004 09:07 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Brilliant!
--B
posted 06-04-2004 11:22 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Bloody brilliant!
posted 06-07-2004 11:01 PM PT (US) 
Bodhizefa

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Unabashedly Bloody Brilliant.Great review. Had many of the same thoughts myself. Cuaron for President of the Harry Potter film club from henceforth methinks. And Williams' music was delightful this go round.
posted 06-08-2004 02:27 AM PT (US) 
rkeaveney

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Music was great, but mixed too low in the film.Ryan
posted 06-08-2004 07:08 AM PT (US) 
scoreguy16

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I felt that a lot of the music sounded like Attack of the Clones (specifically "Yoda and the Younglings"). There were about 3 different times when I could hear that track in the film. But still good music. Way better than the second one, I felt the score to the second film was perfect for the movie, but only in the movie since it's sounds mostly like background music. Anyway, this was my favorite Potter movie so far. I'm not that big of a fan of the series because I feel they tend to be a little to long. But that's just me.Clayton
posted 06-08-2004 12:00 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Azkaban wasn't long enough... they cut a few corners I wish they hadn't. But overall a very positive, exciting experience.
[Message edited by Jeron on 06-09-2004]
posted 06-09-2004 10:58 AM PT (US) 
nightwing

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My main problem with the movie is that they took for granted too much that most of the people have read the book. My sister, for instance, has not and I had to explain alot. Other friends said the same thing.I also didn't like the change to the Patronus light, nor to the Dementors (flying?). One other thing, I thought the Knight Bus was kind of dumb and long, they could have cut it to explain Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs (how could Lupin work the map anyways?)
The score, however, was brilliant. Another great job by Williams.
posted 06-09-2004 08:53 PM PT (US) 
James

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I was worried about the lack of explanation about the map as well, but the two friends I have talked to that haven't read the books both understood where the map came from without anybody having to explain it to them, so I guess it's all subjective. I just like that Cuaron didn't feel the need to spoonfeed the information to the audience like Columbus would have.Kirk
posted 06-09-2004 09:17 PM PT (US) 
James

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quote:
Originally posted by nightwing:
One other thing, I thought the Knight Bus was kind of dumb and long, they could have cut it to explain Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs (how could Lupin work the map anyways?)Actually, that's the main problem with complaints about what was cut from the book. If you lined up 100 fans and asked each of them what they thought should be cut and what deserved to stay, you would likely get 100 different answers.
Kirk
posted 06-09-2004 09:21 PM PT (US) 
thw

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Music mixing is occasionally soft but perfect on the whole. If the music is too loud, it'll be overbearing. Even though I am a film music fan myself, I don't think that it should be loud.
posted 06-10-2004 06:51 PM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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While I do agree that there are elements of the film that are not explained, I wonder how important it is for them to be so.The emotional thrust of the story and its mythical underpinnings were intact. Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson and David Thewlis were outstanding, as were everyone else, in particular Alan Rickman, who finally has the chance to show a little more that he had the chance to in the previous entries. I particularly enjoyed the scene in the Shrieking Shack when Severus, Remus and Sirius confront each other. The dialogue is very different from what appears in the book, but the actors are so committed... and are clearly playing to aspects of the characters that would be revealed in The Order of the Pheonix. I also liked the scene in the hallway; I felt that Rickman and Thewlis really brought a sense of "You used to beat the s--t out of me every day after classes, but I know your secret!!!" "You may know my secret, but I still beat the s--t out of you every day after classes, Snivelus" to the whole proceeding.
I also agree that Cauron captured more of the feel of J.K. Rowling's books than Columbus did, and that an essential element of the books... that the protagonists are the age that they are... was much better communicated in this entry. The "boys will be boys" scene in the dorm room in which the boys are eating the beans that make them sound like animals is a good example. The cluttered, Altman-esque overlapping dialogue also contributes to this.
The sense of humor in this film was much more engaging and more in keeping with Rowling's work ("Room service..." the wizard in the Leaky Cauldron reading A Brief History of Time, etc.), and is much more endearing.
I thought Williams' score was outstanding. It is much more sophisticated and thickly textured than the previous two. Much of this is because the content of this book and film are more mature (let's face it, here's where the books start to get really good). I love the medieval sound he added to many of the cues.
I also think that his use of "Double Trouble" was brilliant (I love the lyrics, adapted from Macbeth, Act IV, Scene I), and that his new "history of Harry" theme is something that will probably be more flexible than the "family" motif adapted from "Harry's Wondrous World" in the first two films.
In fact, while under ordinary circumstances I would have been a little annoyed at how little material has been carried over from the previous two scores, I have to say that the quality of what is there is so good I can't really complain.
While this album is much better at encompassing most of the important cues from the film than Chamber of Secrets was (Quidditch, Year Two?), there still are a few interesting bits missing.
There is an autoharp motif that is associated with the Marauder's Map, but also appears as Harry and Hermione enter the Shrieking Shack and when Pettigrew is revealed... it also closes the film. Buckbeak's second flight is edited out of "Finale" for some reason, and the end credits is slightly shorter on the album than in the film (whether they were lengthened for the film or shortened for the album, I don't know).
The album is great, though. I've been listening to it quite often. I love "Buckbeak's Flight."
posted 06-17-2004 03:24 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
