Enjoy!

I'm now convinced there's gotta be something in the drinking water in L.A. No sane person could have thrown this out....

1. God is Dead.
2. Satan works for Warner Bros.

What an exciting, well-written score! With all due respect to the time constraints Horner had, Horner's Troy isn't even in the same league as Yared's Troy.
I'm totally shocked.

One of the best scores this year...maybe this years LOTR...

This has to be released...

Clayton

PS> Did the firest part of Hector & Achilles Fight remind anyone of Planet of the Apes? Not that it's a bad thing at all...

My my... Pretty unbelievable they rejected this, based on this cue.

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Originally posted by Brad Wills:
I can't find the clips anywhere!!!! Help me!

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Go to: www.gabrielyared.com

You may have to upgrade your flash player once you type in the address.

Then go to the NEWS section. The many clips are there for your listening pleasure.

I'm currently at work and could only hear the first one which was magnificent. Can't wait to hear the others.

I HAVE heard the Horner score and while it is good...it's NOT EVEN in the same league as what Yared did for the film. Yes...this I can tell from just one cue.

I concur with everyone's opinion above -- Yared's score, based on the clips, is simply astounding. It breaks my heart to know that it won't be heard in the film. And I now have no doubt that the only reason this score was outted was because Horner came in and bought Yared out behind his back. It's a power play. That's all it is -- it has nothing to do with talent (obviously! I mean compare the two! Horner's score is nothing short of utter regurgitation from years gone past). This makes me sick. And angry, among many other things.

The score reminds me a lot of Shore`s LOTR scores, especially the build-up music with soloist, chorus and rolling percussion(Greek Funeral Pyres). Most of the music has a similar grandeur and fanfaric quality as Shore`s work, yet no-one called that old-fashioned.

You're irrelevant.

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Originally posted by Jeron:
The state of the industry truly is in a bad place when a masterpiece like this is thrown out with no regard.

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do you know for a fact that it was "thrown out with no regard", or are you just guessing? if you know something about what happened, why don't you share it with the rest of us?

For similar "disagreements" see FSM's thread on the same subject.

From the reports, Peterson loved Yared’s score. Reports have him singing the scores praises and humming the main theme in the halls of Abbey Road…then 24 hours later we have Horner on the job (with Josh Groban no less)...sounds like a studio play to me. If you look at the story on Yared’s site, most rational people will come to the same conclusion. Not to mention that test audiences don’t know a good score if it hit them on the head.

Furthermore, Jeron is not obligated to share anything with anyone, much less yourself.

--Brian

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Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
Furthermore, Jeron is not obligated to share anything with anyone, much less yourself.

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that's great Kyppie. i'll be sure to keep that in mind when you start up again.

Just browsing over at the infamous AICN and what do I see but Quint's review of "Troy" which trashes the score and end credit song. And then in the feedback section...more of the same.

If these bastards had kept their mouths shut to begin with maybe we would still have Yared's score in the film. But who am I kidding...probably not. WB wanted to insure an almighty buck off this $200 million picture somehow.

Sigh.

You’ll notice that I mentioned the test audiences…and really, that’s probably what happened, but you don’t know that there weren't other dealings going on behind the scenes do you? Do you keep James Horner on speed dial? Does Peterson live next door to you? Does the President of Warner Brothers Studios call you up every morning to give you the 411?

No, I didn’t think so.

This means your guess is just as good and 100% as everyone else’s. Nothing more or less.

--Brian (and all my other nicknames)

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you don’t know that there weren't other dealings going on behind the scenes do you?

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I feel like I'm talking to a parakeet. No, I don't know. That's why I was asking if anyone DID.

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Do you keep James Horner on speed dial?

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I'm not obliged to share that with anyone, much less yourself.

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No, I didn’t think so.

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LOL... think all you want, but it's likely that you have no idea what you're talking about.

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This means your guess is just as good and 100% as everyone else’s. Nothing more or less.

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But see, I wasn't guessing, or asking for guesses. I clearly asked if anyone knew any definitive facts on the matter. Instead, you're just wasting everyone's time bloviating about something that no one asked you about.

Joe

As for Yared's score, as far as I am concerned, any studio that makes a decision to throw out the work of a man who has spent a year on an assignment with nothing but praise and positive reactions based on ONE test screening is doing so with NO regard whatsoever. And it is simply moronic.

[Message edited by JoeInSanDiego on 05-13-2004]

"To discourse at length in a pompous or boastful manner."

How obvious. Why didn't I already know that?

Joe

Nothing better to do than attack ME now cause you used the word bloviate? That certainly wasn't necessary was it? Or are you just attacking ANYONE asking a question...oh...wait...isn't that what YOU were doing? Asking a question? Thus, by your own actions, it should be okay for me to call you a fatass pompous jerk.

Naw...I think I will refrain from crawling the gutters with ya today. Tomorrow maybe.

I'd say it's the second-greatest rejected score I've heard. The best being Ennio Morricone's "What Dreams May Come."

Horner's score, from the clips I've heard, is a lot of fun, but Yared's was one of the most original and interesting achievements of film music in a very, very long time. It was a monumental effort, and it will always be known as a rejected score. At least now we can feel Yared's pain, listening to an artist's very best work that unfairly slipped away.

Dylan
NP: Troy (Gabriel Yared)

From what we as a collective group of film music fans know, it was pretty much thrown out with no regard... This may not be the entire truth, but from the articles posted around here, it's the case as far as we know...

The "no regard" point could be argued, because obviously as film music fans, it seems that it was just done recklessly or on a whim. I don't dispute that; I was just as surprised to hear it was tossed, and having seen the film and heard both scores, I would have loved to see Yared's in the final product. But without any actual facts (beyond what Yared himself has said on his personal website), the question STILL remains as to what exactly happened.

Jeron is suggesting above that "the only reason" the score was tossed was because of Horner. And I'm still wondering what evidence there is that backs that up. Whether I am taking him "too literally" or not would depend on how he explains his comments, since I never saw anyone mention a "power struggle" involving Horner (again, I repeat that Yared never mentioned Horner), until Jeron made the above claim.

In the meantime, I'll leave you all with a tasty nugget that might "piss you off" even more: due to some crazy legal union rules in Europe, only someone with an EU or UK residency could score this film (or something like that).......

....which is why Basil Poledouris didn't score the film - even though he DID talk with Wolfgang Petersen. Nuts.

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due to some crazy legal union rules in Europe, only someone with an EU or UK residency could score this film (or something like that).......

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Originally posted by Dinko:
[b]WARNING: Gratuitous Horner bashing ahead.

But that doesn't make much sense either. As far as I know, Prokofiev was a USSR citizen, and the USSR was never an EU member, so that rules out Horner. [/B]

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