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    Topic:   Troy Tracklisting

     workaluk
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    Hello everyone i saw this in amazon.de,so i think this is correct,here it goes:

    1.3200 Years Ago
    2.Troy
    3.Achilles Leads The Myrmidons
    4.The Temple Of Poseidon
    5.The Night Before
    6.The Greek Army And Its Defeat
    7.Briseis And Achilles
    8.The Trojans Attack
    9.Hector's Death
    10.The Wooden Horse And The Sacking Of Troy
    11.Through The Fires, Achilles...And Immortality
    12.Remember Me


    So here it is,for me it's a score i am very excited about,i just don't agree with track 12,it seems to me that a pop song just don't seems a very good idea in this movie...

    Well now that i think of it a pop song isn't good anywhere

    NP-The Mummy Complete Score - Jerry Goldsmith

    Nuno Cunha

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    posted 05-02-2004 03:20 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    The song "Remember" is a Josh Groban/Cynthia Weil/James Horner thingy.

    --Brian

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    posted 05-02-2004 03:50 PM PT (US)     

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    AWesome! I love JOsh Groban and I love Horner so that's totally cool. I wished they'd get together on a Project. Can't wait. p2

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    posted 05-03-2004 06:07 PM PT (US)     

     franz_conrad
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    Not only Groban and Horner, but Cynthia Weil too!!!! I'm getting excited now!!!

    (this post might have been a tad more facetious than it first appeared)

    [Message edited by franz_conrad on 05-03-2004]

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    posted 05-03-2004 07:24 PM PT (US)     

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    Regardless of how upset I am about the Horner/Yared ordeal and how I disagree with the inclusion of the song in general, it's nice to see him working with Cynthia Weil again. I was afraid after "My Heart Will Go On" he would only ever hire Will Jennings again.

    "Love was when I loved you
    One true time I hold to
    In my life we'll always go on"

    I mean, really, what the hell is that supposed to mean?

    Kirk

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    posted 05-03-2004 08:42 PM PT (US)     

     franz_conrad
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    quote:
    Originally posted by James:
    "Love was when I loved you
    One true time I hold to
    In my life we'll always go on"

    I mean, really, what the hell is that supposed to mean?


    That love is a mystery, yay, even unto those who write about it.

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    posted 05-03-2004 09:14 PM PT (US)     

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    The last track (accoring to Amazon.com) is:


    12. Remember - Performed by Josh Groban with Tanja Tzarovska

    Interestingly enough, this must be what Yared was referring to by using his soloists as Tanja Tzarovska was the soloist featured in his score and the vocalist on the song he wrote for the end credits.

    James

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    posted 05-05-2004 10:35 AM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    Are these the same vocalist Yared was using for his score?

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    posted 05-05-2004 01:00 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    Tanya Tsarovska is.
    I don't think Yared wanted Groban on his score.

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    posted 05-05-2004 01:04 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Groban might have been a studio thing.

    --Bri

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    posted 05-05-2004 01:16 PM PT (US)     

     rkeaveney
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    Corporate synergy is great: TROY is a Warner Bros. picture, the soundtrack is on a Warner Music Group label and Josh Groban is a WMG artist!

    Ryan

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    posted 05-05-2004 01:58 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Everyone knows that Ryan.

    --Brian

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    posted 05-05-2004 03:07 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
    Everyone knows that Ryan.

    --Brian


    I didn't.

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    posted 05-05-2004 03:42 PM PT (US)     

     rkeaveney
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    When you use the words "might have", you're not necessarily making a definitive statement.

    If you knew, as you say you did, (and I'm sure you did) that Groban's involvement had to do with the fact that he is a WMG artist, then you should have said "Groban was a studio thing". That probably would have shown that you -- and everyone else -- knew the connection.

    But you didn't, so keep grinding that axe. Grind, grind, grind. No, I implore you, continue. It's amusing!

    Ryan

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    posted 05-05-2004 05:11 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Your Elfman site is amusing...when are you going to change those graphics that claim Elfman won the Golden Globe and BFCA for “Big Fish?” You know the ones that say "WINNER" on them.

    I meant that maybe Groban (bring a pop star) was used to sell more CDs.

    Or are you really that thick?

    --Brian

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    posted 05-05-2004 05:47 PM PT (US)     

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    Brian, the sparks must have gotten into your eyes... If you read those graphics carefully (still using a 256 color 12" CRT monitor?) you'll see that they are marked "Nomination" -- those are straight out of the trade and newspaper ads, FYI. That's how Sony Pictures publicized the nominations.

    But of course, we all knew that!

    Ryan

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    posted 05-05-2004 06:37 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    No I saw it. But you can also Photoshop that out ya goofball. And if I remember right they DO have ones that say nomination on them.

    You can go to your corner now and think about what I said. When you get mature you can come back to play.

    --Brian

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    posted 05-05-2004 08:15 PM PT (US)     

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    Brian, moron, my source of amusement -- those are scanned from an actual BIG FISH newspaper ad. I don't need to "Photoshop that out", because those are the actual graphics.

    Ryan

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    posted 05-06-2004 06:36 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Hey, I never called you names (goofball doesn’t count) therefore you have to right to call me moron ya dork.

    As for those ADs you scanned...did you get the permission to reprint them on your site from the newspaper?

    Anyway, I'm done messing around since I have better things to do with my time. Stop being a sour prick to people. Your "gray cloud" attitude is getting annoying to many.

    Good day to you.

    --Brian

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    posted 05-06-2004 08:36 AM PT (US)     

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    Brian, did you get permission from the Walt Disney Company to edit your TARZAN music video? How did you do with Warner Bros. and securing permission to use THE MATRIX? If you did, then you're the master of clearances!

    And dark clouds? Sorry, you won't find a jollier bunch of *******s this side of the nuthouse!

    Ryan

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    posted 05-06-2004 10:09 AM PT (US)     

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    Bryan vs Ryan - what an interesting discussion to have in public....

    I thought I'd post something FILM MUSIC related if you care about it at all. This is our latest news bit at MftM, http://www.musicfromthemovies.com/article.asp?ID=316 :

    mikael

    - - -

    Horner's 'Troy' written at record speed, recorded with mammoth orchestra:

    Music from the Movies has obtained more facts regarding James Horner's score for Wolfgang Petersen's Troy, the epic adventure starring Brad Pitt. As we revealed in March, Gabriel Yared's original score for the film was rejected very late in post production and James Horner (with whom Petersen worked on The Perfect Storm) was brought in to rescore the whole picture.
    James Horner managed to compose 120 minutes of music in thirteen days and had another twelve days to record the score. "It was an extraordinary achievement and a dangerous precedent to set. Normally James would need eight weeks to write and five weeks to record something of this magnitude. We recorded, edited and mixed ten minutes of music a day," recording engineer and producer Simon Rhodes reveals in an exclusive Music from the Movies interview.
    The score was recorded at Todd AO Scoring with a mammoth orchestra consisting of 118 pieces - in fact the biggest ever witnessed at the recording venue. The ensemble included five pianos (!) and such unusual stuff as antiphonal trumpets, horns and timpani. In addition, the 20 voice London Bulgarian Choir was flown over especially for the recording of the score. Also, Macedonian singer Tanja Tzarovska is featured in the score prominently. It should be mentioned that Gabriel Yared used both a Bulgarian choir - and Tanja Tzarovska as a soloist - in his rejected score.
    James Horner has worked under very tight schedules before, for instance the heavily re-edited Aliens was scored in three and a half weeks - which is considered to be very quick. However, Troy, sets a new record with its two weeks. No additional composers were involved and Horner used only four orchestrators, which isn't more than what is used for an average score written under "normal" conditions.
    "James is very focused and does some of his best work under what others would deem as unbearable pressure. The only problem is the practical process getting out of his head and onto paper quickly enough! His score for Troy tends to play more the emotional strife of the story rather than rigidly adhere to supporting every nuance of action. As a direct consequence this approach sets up the moving climax of the film really well," Simon Rhodes says. Asked to point out a few favourite cues in the score, he comes up with several examples. "'Helen's Entrance Into Troy' and 'The Trojans', both have brilliant antiphonal brass writing. 'The Greek Army', which starts slowly and marches faster and faster forward, tension building all the time, grounded with trombones amplified down the octave whilst gaining more tension from high strings and synths. 'The Wooden Horse', a magnificent processional, and of course the beautiful love theme."
    The score CD featuring James Horner's music will be available from Warner on 11th May.
    For those interested in the rejected score written by Gabriel Yared, the composer will put up audio clips of his score on his official web site shortly.


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    posted 05-06-2004 10:29 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    See below.

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    posted 05-06-2004 11:56 AM PT (US)     

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    Hey dude, yeah I read that article yesterday on your site. Good info! We'll see if Horner can deliver under that kind of pressure

    And Ryan, there is a different in showcasing talent and trying to market yourself towards others and just ripping off images from printed news papers.

    This discussion is over since I have better things to do with my free time. So go blow off steam to other people.

    As for the “gray clouds” (not dark you dolt) it’s your attitude as of late on the boards. So stop being an ass and grow up.

    If you wish to discuss this in private you know how to get in touch with me.

    --Brian

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    posted 05-06-2004 12:01 PM PT (US)     

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    What was that about Ryan's schwartz? It's sick to see this thing whipped out with such frequency. We want more!

    And yeah, I bet Horner had to write the score at breakneck speed. Be him the second or fourth composer on the job, $180 million budget is not twiddling its thumbs waiting.

    I predict this will be the most uninspired score of the year. Or most stolen!

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    posted 05-06-2004 12:12 PM PT (US)     

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    LOL Peter!

    --Bri

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    posted 05-06-2004 12:18 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    I predict this will be the most uninspired score of the year. Or most stolen!

    Well, you're obviously a clueless fanboy.
    How about LISTENING to the score FIRST, and DECIDING upon its merits AFTER? Hmmm?
    ******** Hornerbashers!

    NP: Star Trek 5
    NSL (Now Smelling Like): Old Spice Red Zone - Mountain Rush. 10 times better than sniffing glue!

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    posted 05-06-2004 12:29 PM PT (US)     

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    Two weeks? Cue the fat lady disguise from Total Recall

    Oh, hell, they should've just scored Troy with Cartman's Hand as Jennifer Lopez from South Park. Just as a climactic battle surges, you can hear, "Taco Kisses! Oh, Ben, you make me forget about Tacos!"

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    posted 05-06-2004 12:41 PM PT (US)     

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    Someone present at the recording sessions for Horner's score has noted the similarity of his main theme to the theme of .... STARGATE. Interesting.

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    posted 05-06-2004 04:16 PM PT (US)     

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    Over at scorereviews.com, someone pointed out the interesting music that appears at: http://www.troymovie.com
    If that's Horner - then it actually does sound very new for him and I'm starting to get excited.

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    posted 05-06-2004 04:28 PM PT (US)     

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    The only music I heard on the site sounds like the trailer music which has been around for awhile...I think.

    If that is his music...interesting!!

    If not...I am still interested to hear what he comes up with. I actually enjoy recycled Horner...so...we'll see.


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    posted 05-06-2004 05:11 PM PT (US)     

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    The website music if anything sounds like something Brian Tyler would have written, which is interesting, given that he probably would have eventually replaced Horner if they'd had another two months before release.

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    posted 05-06-2004 05:39 PM PT (US)     
     

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