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Topic: Where to put CAPE FEAR rerecording by Bernstein?

Philipp
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Where should I put the CAPE FEAR rerecording by Elmer Bernstein into my collection? I have divided my collection into composery by alphabetical order and in teh composer-frame by year of its release. But now I donīt know where to put this cd, since it contains the original score by Bernard Herrmann from the fifties, but the adaptation by Elmer Bernstein is from the 90īs. Help?
Thanks
Philipp
np: cape fear (bernard herrmann)
posted 02-28-2004 10:49 AM PT (US) 
Lancelot

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Stay tuned next week for another haunting episode of "Problems Movie Music Geeks Have" [organ music plays.]
posted 02-28-2004 11:21 AM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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Well since the music on the CD was used for a film in the 90's, even though it was adapted, the answer should be obvious. I mean you would file it under the 90's. It would be the same scenerio if you were trying to catalogue Elfman's adaptation of Herrmann's Psycho for the 98 remake.Of course I put mine in alphebetical order by titles only so I won't run into a major problem like that.
A person could lose sleep over that.....
posted 02-28-2004 11:41 AM PT (US) 
CindyLover1969

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I put my collection in composer order, and since Herrmann composed it my copy goes among the H's.
posted 02-28-2004 11:52 AM PT (US) 
Philipp
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Sorry I asked the question.
posted 02-28-2004 01:39 PM PT (US) 
Johnnyecks

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Olivarez:
Well since the music on the CD was used for a film in the 90's, even though it was adapted, the answer should be obvious. I mean you would file it under the 90's. It would be the same scenerio if you were trying to catalogue Elfman's adaptation of Herrmann's Psycho for the 98 remake.Of course I put mine in alphebetical order by titles only so I won't run into a major problem like that.
A person could lose sleep over that.....
Alph. order doesn't necessarily work all the time however when you have a cd with two different scores on it (i.e. Patton / Tora! Tora! Tora!). I used to have them in alph. order, then I went with chronological order but I had the same problem, so I went back to alph order.
I have the re-recording alphabatized in my Elmer Bernstein section, although it should prob. be under Herrman.
posted 02-28-2004 01:53 PM PT (US) 
Dana Wilcox

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quote:
Originally posted by Philipp:
Sorry I asked the question.
You mean this discussion hasn't clarified the matter for you? Obviously, you create a new category, "Scores Re-scored by a Different Composer for a Years-Later Remake of a Classic Film" and put your Elfman "Psycho" and Bernstein "Cape Fear" in that section. Simple as that!posted 02-28-2004 02:03 PM PT (US) 
Squiddybop

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I think I sort my collection similar to yours, Philipp: Composer first, then release date of the film. I filed it under Herrmann, since he's the original composer, but chronologically within the Herrmann scores it goes under 1991. Makes sense enough to me, anyway.[Message edited by Squiddybop on 02-28-2004]
posted 02-28-2004 02:04 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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My suggestion is to put it where I have mine: with Herrmanns stuff since its his score. John.
posted 02-28-2004 02:16 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little

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I file it under Herrmann: 1991.
posted 02-28-2004 02:39 PM PT (US) 
Bond1965

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quote:
Originally posted by Philipp:
Where should I put the CAPE FEAR rerecording by Elmer Bernstein into my collection? I have divided my collection into composery by alphabetical order and in teh composer-frame by year of its release. But now I donīt know where to put this cd, since it contains the original score by Bernard Herrmann from the fifties, but the adaptation by Elmer Bernstein is from the 90īs. Help?
Thanks
Philipp
np: cape fear (bernard herrmann)
FYI: The original and superior film "Cape Fear" was released in 1962. The same year that Gregory Peck did "To Kill A Mockingbird."
I agree with Herrmann and if you must file by year also, go for 1991.
James
P.S. There is also music from Herrmann's discarded "Torn Curtain" at one point in Bernstein's "Cape Fear" adaptation.
posted 02-28-2004 11:18 PM PT (US) 
Southall
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This is a topic of extreme importance.Another age-old problem is where to file "Hoosiers" by Mr Goldsmith - does one put it under H or under B for "Best Shot" since that's what the movie's called on the album cover?
Does one file "The Egyptian" under Newman or Herrmann?
Does one file "Willow" under Horner or Schumann?
etc etc
Age old problem.
posted 02-29-2004 01:34 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Hehe. This thread is great.Oh what a troubled life we lead.
posted 02-29-2004 06:41 AM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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Yes, James. Herrmann must have liked those cues. He used them a lot. They are also in Battle of Neretva, mixed in the battle music. LOL. John.
posted 02-29-2004 10:19 AM PT (US) 
Philipp
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For all laughing at me: This thread wasnīt meant all that serious.Philipp
np: the peacemaker (hans zimmer)
posted 02-29-2004 12:49 PM PT (US) 
Dinko

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quote:
Originally posted by Southall:
Does one file "The Egyptian" under Newman or Herrmann?Under "Egyptian, The"

quote:
Originally posted by Southall:
Does one file "Willow" under Horner or Schumann?I bought multiple copies, and filed each under a different composer:
Schumann
Prokofiev
Janeček
Horner
(not! the one Willow copy I have is filed under "W" on the soundtracks rack - alphabetical listing solved all of these childish FB problems about filing under composer, record label, spine colour, catalog number, year of release, film genre, performing ensemble, cover art illustrator, CD length, orchestrator, recording engineer or orchestra contractor)posted 02-29-2004 02:08 PM PT (US) 
Philipp
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Must be fun, making fun of someone. This thread wasnīt meant serious. I sure have a life, ya know.But thanks for making fun of me.
Philipp
posted 02-29-2004 02:52 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little

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Huh?
posted 02-29-2004 04:33 PM PT (US) 
Philipp
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Nutinī.
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