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    Topic:   The Mystery Of "Ring of Bright Water"-The Music

     Elgallo633
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    Hello there!!

    Well..I am frustrated about this music-British film composer Frank Cordell scored this hearbreakingly beautiful score(original tracks are ten times more beautiful then the re-recorded suite coupled with Demon(aka"God Told me To")-the question-the theme song heard at the end of the film.

    I just obtained a 45 of Dee Dee Warwick's version of the theme song(Dionne's sister)-the picture sleeve has a bit of movie art and states that it is the "Original Soundtrack Performance of the title song"-now this is where it gets confusing-the film version is sung by a male vocalist,and the End Credits says "Title Song sung by Dee Dee Warwick"-Can any body help me with info regarding this?? Was this the Original and was felt too commercial for the film?? The version in the film has a more Folk-song feel
    to it-and is it Val Doonican who is singing it??( he also did a version of the song-he's an Irish "Perry Como" vocalist form the fifties and sixties) I was told by a friend that there was a man also named Dee Dee Warwick who was a folk singer in the mid-sixties who was always being confused for Dionne's sister-Her version is beautiful,but the song itself is beautiful,so it can't really get screwed up in the performance-any help with this would be great-Thanks!!!

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    posted 02-10-2004 08:07 AM PT (US)     

     Vinylscrubber
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    Hey ElGallo, was the original soundtrack LP from the original tracks? I only know this score from the RING/DEMON LP you mentioned.

    Cordell was a terrific composer and it would be great to get things like FSM's hinted KHARTOUM release and stuff like RING, MOSQUITO SQUADRON, ATTACK ON THE IRON COAST, CROMWELL, and his music for the mid-60's short-lived tv series, COURT MARTIAL or THE MAN WHO NEVER WAS.

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    posted 02-10-2004 04:43 PM PT (US)     

     Elgallo633
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    Hi,Vinylscrubber!!

    Thanks for responding-No,that Phoenix LP is a re-recording,and not the actual tracks-if you have'nt seen this film,I highly reccommend it-keep a box of tissues by the table! The original tracks are just more emotional,and MORE beautiful and gorgeous than the Re-recorded suite album.

    I actually made a few serious attempts to locate the 1969 music elements myself-albiet only thru the Internet and letters- in 1995,I wrote to David Wishart,at Cloud Nine when it was still going,which put a possible compilation on the table,before they went out of business-I gave up at taht point and waited a few years-and decided to give it another shot-I made contact via Email-The director,Jack Couffer,and producer Joseph Strick of the film,but for some reason we drifted apart-I wrote to Pinewoods Studios in England-which I believe used to be the Rank Studio in the 60's-and came to a dead end there-I would love to re-start my search again-but I don't know where to begin... I would be happy to send you a copy of the song that I just had transferred from 45 rpm to CD-My idea was if I could find the masters-then I could contact the appropriate
    soundtrack labels to encourage them to release it-I actually sent Lukas Kendall a copy of the Film"Ring of Bright Water",on video,with the intention that they might someday release it thru FSM's label-but he e-mailed me stating that he could'nt license it or something to that effect-the film distribution is a bit confusing-it was distributed by Cinerama Releasing Corporation
    in the UK,as listed on it's movie poster there,and on the US movie poster(which I own)-it is distributed by ABC Pictures/Palomar Pictures International-that was the distribution I was originally searching info on-but had not searched Cinerama Releasing Corp's history-anyway-so you can see i have at least made a serious attempt-now what do I do?? I don't like giving up,once i get going-Did Cordell write alot of TV work??


    Elgallo633QUOTE]Originally posted by Vinylscrubber
    Hey ElGallo, was the original soundtrack LP from the original tracks? I only know this score from the RING/DEMON LP you mentioned.

    Cordell was a terrific composer and it would be great to get things like FSM's hinted KHARTOUM release and stuff like RING, MOSQUITO SQUADRON, ATTACK ON THE IRON COAST, CROMWELL, and his music for the mid-60's short-lived tv series, COURT MARTIAL or THE MAN WHO NEVER WAS.[/QUOTE]


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    posted 02-11-2004 07:25 AM PT (US)     

     Vinylscrubber
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    ElGallo,

    Thanks for the tale of your "quest."

    To my knowledge, Cordell didn't do much televison work over here except the two series I mentioned above.

    COURT MARTIAL had a driving march with Cordell's signature powerhouse percussion section, and THE MAN WHO NEVER WAS had a very "sinisterly continental" theme for cimbalom over woodwinds and flutes, marred somewhat by a gunshot effect that worked in conjunction with the animated title sequence. The show itself was rather good and starred the under-rated Robert Lansing and Dana Wynter.

    Wonder if Cordell did any TV work in the U.K.? I also have vague fond memories of a 1961 British comedy with Tony Hancock, CALL ME GENIUS, that Cordell provided a sprightly score for--quite out of the "epic" style he was typecast in.

    Seems to me there was a 45 of his theme from FLIGHT FROM ASHIYA that made a brief appearance on eBay about 12-18 months back. I never knew that one existed.

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    posted 02-12-2004 05:56 AM PT (US)     

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    Hi,Vinylscrubber:

    One of the things that really frustrate me about this music field,is how one composer can get all the attention,while others are overlooked-probably because there are so many composers,sometimes ignored completely.
    Cordell,among many British composers,had a unique style-"God Told Me To"(also a re-recording on that album)had a Herrmann-esque quality-and yet rich and melodic in his own style.I have been looking for a copy of the film to hear Cordell's score-considering it was his last-I am surprised he did'nt a nomination for "Ring" over "Cromwell"(probably more commercial then Ring-which was definitely Not an epic score,much more intimate an action cue or two(when Graham goes Whale shark hunting for Mij)-Ring has a theme that is pastoral in nature-and evokes the Scottish Highlands with a bittersweet edge-Have you heard "Far From the Madding Crowd" by R.Rodney Bennett?? That score evokes the same kind of deep emotion that "Ring of Bright Water" does ,in the film,and in it's orchestrations are rich-there are afew places where they
    repeat a cue-I do hope FSM's release will get other people interested in releasing his work-it saddens me when a composer gets ignored,especially those who are talented.


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    Originally posted by Vinylscrubber:
    ElGallo,

    Thanks for the tale of your "quest."

    To my knowledge, Cordell didn't do much televison work over here except the two series I mentioned above.

    COURT MARTIAL had a driving march with Cordell's signature powerhouse percussion section, and THE MAN WHO NEVER WAS had a very "sinisterly continental" theme for cimbalom over woodwinds and flutes, marred somewhat by a gunshot effect that worked in conjunction with the animated title sequence. The show itself was rather good and starred the under-rated Robert Lansing and Dana Wynter.

    Wonder if Cordell did any TV work in the U.K.? I also have vague fond memories of a 1961 British comedy with Tony Hancock, CALL ME GENIUS, that Cordell provided a sprightly score for--quite out of the "epic" style he was typecast in.

    Seems to me there was a 45 of his theme from FLIGHT FROM ASHIYA that made a brief appearance on eBay about 12-18 months back. I never knew that one existed.

    [Message edited by Vinylscrubber on 02-12-2004]



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    posted 02-12-2004 07:21 AM PT (US)     

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    Wow, I thought I was the only person who ever saw this...

    My uncle had bought me this on VHS when I was very young, and I watched it a zillion times. Quite a good film actually, if I remember well.

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    posted 02-12-2004 10:20 AM PT (US)     

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    Hi,Camillu:

    It's a very beautiful film-and one of those British films that just gets overlooked-and the score by Frank Cordell is gorgeous-what I had mentioned in my first post to get this subject rolling-was that Dee Dee Warwick sang a version of the Title song-and I had obtained a 45 of the song-and it stated that itwas from the soundtrack-but a male vocalist sings it at the end-so that's where my confusion came in-perhaps you could watch the film again-give me your thoughts as to who is singing the song-or why her version was'nt used.

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    Originally posted by Camillu:
    Wow, I thought I was the only person who ever saw this...

    My uncle had bought me this on VHS when I was very young, and I watched it a zillion times. Quite a good film actually, if I remember well.



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