Damn. But ya'll can go nuts and drool now

--Brian

NP: Big Fish

I'd love to own some of that material, but there's so much that I already spent my money on.

Kind of a bummer. I don't have $130 to toss around. I'm sure some people do.

Besides, when doing multiple disc sets, the cost always goes down. At the very most it should have been $99.98...at the VERY most. The physical cost of the cd package with the booklet would be $7.00 to $10.00 per unit. There is also the mechanicals issue, but they most likely worked out a deal with the publisher. $130 is just a little too pricey if you ask me. Plus, most of his fans have a majority of this music anyway!

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Originally posted by jonathan_little:
Jeron, the problem is with that is that the first three albums would probably not sell...

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I hate to speculate, but I wonder if that factored into the decision? Must have... Jonathan, you and I could easily assemble the first three discs from our own collections.

I think $60.00 for this set would be a fairer price. $130.00 is asking far too much, in my opinion. Like everybody else, I love Goldsmith's music immensely, and it sounds like a wonderful box, but there's just no way I'm spending that much money on it.

Dylan

My concern with a Goldsmith compilation was always that there would have to be enough previously unavailable material to justify the Goldsmith fan buying it. I think on balance there is.

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Originally posted by firefox:
...for me, there's only two CDs on the set I care about, and I don't think they're worth $65 apiece...Too much money for too much music I already paid Fox and Varese for in the past.

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I did the math this way:

Shock Treatment (20:00)
Fate Is The Hunter (6:45)
Von Ryan’s Express (20:30)
S*P*Y*S (18:50)
The Detective (18:10)
Damnation Alley (19:05)
Anna and the King (16:05)
A Tree Grows In Brooklyn (14:15)

(The Chairman is not a premier release)

This amounts to four 30 minute CD's worth of music I would probably pay $20 a piece for (think any pairing of the above with the rarity, and the good sound quality as factors). I'd pay that for Damnation Alley alone, actually, so make it an even $100. Bonuses are legitimately paying for The Vanishing (20:45), the bits off FSM releases I haven't purchased (my specifics add up to 33:45), the new suites, and the compilation aspect of the first 3 discs, plus the nice booklet, making the remaining 30 bucks seem alright.

I did this with the Silva compilation a few years ago, the 2 disc set (called "Omen" for some reason). It had about 30 minutes of stuff I couldn't get at the time, and cost $15, so I didn't mind it.

Has anyone compared their tracks from previous releases to see if anything is new (is there a new track from Chain Reaction, for instance)? I haven't yet, but that could be bonus stuff as well, if it's there.

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Originally posted by la la land:
Will they go ahead and release the complete scores later this year after many customers have shelled out $130 to get these mini suites of unreleased stuff?!

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This, alone, would justify complaint, but I hope not, and I think not. I found that statement enticing, actually.

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Originally posted by ESB:
Gee, what a complaints from everyone. It doesn't matter what they do there is always something wrong.

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Jz

Yes it is priced a little higher than I had hoped but I look at it this way, as much as I love Jerry's music, with all of the FSM & Varese club releases, there's just no way I can justify having every CD of Goldsmith's.

It's not a question of finances but of actually having the time and space to listen and store these CDs and I'm sure there are others out there who feel the same way.

Yes Disc 1 & 3 will be a reapeat of what I already have but the other 4 won't.

I also know what it's like to be a college student or trying to make a living in todays world. Not everyone can afford to plop down $100.00 on a CD set but that's how life goes.

I applaud Varese for putting this together.

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Originally posted by John Zimmer:
Oh that's right Marian is thwarted once again. No Great Train Robbery.

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The price is kind of high- but the value for me is more than others here. Now, if there truly is a year long salute to Goldsmith planned this year, then I expect there will be other releases to look forward to.

I'm not going to crank my hopes up for a release of Gremlins, or re-issues of The 'Burbs, Runaway, or Alien; I would love for them to exist, but what I know is coming (the SACD of Timeline) is where I'll spend my interest (and money).

By the way- and this is just a theory, but I figure they'll release that Timeline disc on April 27th to coincide with the film's DVD release. Certainly matches what others have heard about a Spring release.

Cheers to Varese for a wonderful celebration of Goldsmith's music from Fox!
Jeers too all of you too jaded and selfish to realise what a treasure this is.

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Originally posted by JoeInSanDiego:
[BPerhaps we soundtrack collectors have become SO deluded by our own self-importance and superiority complexes that we forget that, even though we've been around for years, there are always newbies entering the fold. Perhaps this is for THEM![/B]

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Because they're the ones who are going to pay that much for a limited compilation only available through a specialized store?

This looks like a monumental effort, but the reservations people have about it are real. I think it would have been awesome if this were part of a "Jerry Goldsmith at Fox" series of CDs, with volume 1, volume 2, etc. sold separately. Completists will buy all volumes, realists will buy only the stuff they don't have. What happenes when Goldsmith writes his best-ever score next year? So much for this 6CD set. If it were in volumes, it would have been easy to add another later on.

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Originally posted by PeterK:

This looks like a monumental effort, but the reservations people have about it are real. I think it would have been awesome if this were part of a "Jerry Goldsmith at Fox" series of CDs, with volume 1, volume 2, etc. sold separately. Completists will buy all volumes, realists will buy only the stuff they don't have. What happenes when Goldsmith writes his best-ever score next year? So much for this 6CD set. If it were in volumes, it would have been easy to add another later on.

Good luck to Varese. 1500 copies is huge. Maybe they will sell 100 a year, so we have plenty of chances to win the lottery.... or... in 15 years, CDs might have gone the way of the dodo and the set will be worth $20?

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I agree with you regarding a multi volume set would have been the way to go (ala the Herrmann series), but I don't think it will take that long to sell out the 1500 limited edition run. I'm guessing 6 to 9 months. If I'm wrong I'll buy you an ice cream cone!

"... the beginning of Varèse Sarabande’s year-long celebration of the composer’s 75th birthday ..."

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Originally posted by Dinko:
Given that there are already weirdoes publicly announcing they've ordered two copies so they can resell one in a year, I wouldn't be surprised if this thing is sold out fairly soon. For no reason other than speculation. So now let's see how fast other people get on board and start buying afraid that if they wait, the speculators will have bought all the copies.

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I know that's the sad part about it and the one aspect that really upsets me.

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Originally posted by ESB:
Varèse is known for their amateurish artwork

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Originally posted by JoeInSanDiego:
Of course, there just MIGHT be new people out there who DON'T have all of these scores (just like none of us did, once upon a time). (...) there are always newbies entering the fold. Perhaps this is for THEM!

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So JoeInSanDiego, if this is aimed at those of us without a million Goldsmith scores, I STILL think Varese is missing the boat because this is a HELL of a hefty investment to ask us to put down, and I for one, can't afford it / won't buy it.

Whomever said this should've been in seperately released albums is DEAD ON. Great idea Varese, but for the common man, this is too much at once, and for the Goldsmith completist, too little too late.

(And my two cents on Varese's "artwork": although the IMAGERY tends to come from the actual movie companies, it's their graphic design that tends to be lackluster -- two very different things. It's very funny though, as I've been impressed more and more by their designs over the past year for their STANDARD releases, while the club releases still tend to be horribly lacking from a design standpoint. Pretty paintings aside, it's all about the fonts!)

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Originally posted by PeterK:
I am shocked that Varese's 2CD club release of Alfred Newman's "The Robe" is now down to 50 to 60 copies remaining. Wow! Score one for the Golden Age! I can't think of any limited edition Golden Age scores (FSM line included) that have even sold out, much less this fast.

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I snapped this one up based on my enjoyment of THE EGYPTIAN (in its many incarnations) and liked it so much I went out and rented the dvd. Not a great film exactly, but a really great score, and the sound is pretty good for a 50-yr anniversary!