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scored for life Standard Userer	Just watched Seabiscuit the other day. Good movie, better score (albeit sounding a lot like "Legends of the Fall" towards the end, which is okay with me). Anyway, Filmtracks says the score was ineligible for the Oscar. Anyone know why??
posted 01-31-2004 09:38 PM PT (US)

Southall Standard Userer	Because Randy Newman refused to submit it (because he fell out with the director after he would not copy the Horse Whisperer temp-track, so William Ross was brought in instead). Fancy that, a film composer with principles! James
posted 02-01-2004 04:09 AM PT (US)

Camillu Standard Userer	Great username btw. I like.
posted 02-01-2004 05:47 AM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Southall: so William Ross was brought in instead). James Really? Well that explains why some of the music is better than Newman's usual stuff. And what is this with William Ross and horses? Wasn't he scoring the Black Stallion too?
posted 02-01-2004 06:20 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Wait, so did William Ross score some of the film? --Brian
posted 02-01-2004 10:58 AM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	James explains it here: http://www.filmtracks.com/comments/titles/seabiscuit/index.cgi?read=5
posted 02-01-2004 12:37 PM PT (US)

Southall Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Dinko: James explains it here: http://www.filmtracks.com/comments/titles/seabiscuit/index.cgi?read=5 Since I wrote that it's emerged that there was a bit more to it (basically, that Newman refused to copy his cousin's music; but of course, William Ross's career as a composer has been - to date - entirely made up of him rearranging temp tracks and them somehow ending up with "Composed by William Ross" credits - he does it so well, I'm sure there's a great composer bursting to get out, but directors keep forcing him to stick to the temp, I guess.)
posted 02-01-2004 01:02 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	James, what Ross-scored movies in particular are you referring to? I can see where the temp-track effect is obvious on a couple of Ross scores, but I don't really hear it in the majority of his music.
posted 02-01-2004 02:19 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Standard Userer	Tuck Everlasting being the big exception to that rule...even though I love that score. --Brian NP: Meet Joe Black
posted 02-01-2004 02:24 PM PT (US)

johnmullin Non-Standard Userer	Well, in particular, Ross did the cue where you first see Chris Cooper in the movie. It bascially sounds like THE HORSE WHISPERER, except using Randy's SEABISCUIT theme! I disagree with the assertion that Ross did "most" of the score. It only sounds like a few cues here and there (albeit some major ones). The CD is all Randy, it sounds like, and I think it's pretty good. You also have to give Randy credit for stading up and saying, "I'm not going to do that." Love or hate his music, he does seem to have a good deal of integrity and that goes a long way with me at least.
posted 02-01-2004 07:30 PM PT (US)

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