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      Friedhofer's Broken Arrow, White Feather and Aztec drums and music from Capt from Cas

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    Topic:   Friedhofer's Broken Arrow, White Feather and Aztec drums and music from Capt from Cas

     John C Winfrey
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    Watched the first few mins of another early 50s Indian/western from 20th Cent Fox this time with Robert Wagner in lead. Also starred Debra Paget in another Indian girl role like in Broken Arrow. Friedhofer reused some music from Broken Arrow-1950, in this 52-53 film. Its the love theme and some of the music from the end titles/end cast.

    Speaking of Broken Arrow, which is a very nice score, Newman was MD on it and he did two cues based on the Friedhofer material.
    The main title in that one and much of the thematic material sounds very much like the Aztec music in Capt from Castile-Aztec drums and incidental music in that one. Not sure if its his music or Newmans.

    Very interesting. J.

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    posted 01-02-2004 04:02 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    ONLY GOOD BROQUEN AROW SKKORE IS BY HANZIMMER!!!!

    Has Friedhofer's Broken Arrow ever been released - CD/LP/etc? Or are you talking about his music as heard in the film?

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    posted 01-02-2004 05:39 PM PT (US)     

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    Dinko, Friedhofer's BROKEN ARROW score is available for purchase at www.screenarchives.com .

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    posted 01-02-2004 06:28 PM PT (US)     

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    Thanks. I'll take a look at SAE.

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    posted 01-02-2004 07:16 PM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    Some of those Friedhofer westerns had tremendous music in them. I don't know BROKEN ARROW, though it's on my wants list (726 titles and rising). What I do remember are his glorious scores for VERA CRUZ, and, above all, ONE-EYED JACKS. Absolutely splendid, some of my favourite music from the genre here, really darkly coloured and rich (am I sounding like a wine critic yet?). Lightly fruity bouquet.

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    posted 01-03-2004 08:14 AM PT (US)     

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    Yes, Graham those are very good too. Vera Cruz theme is on Lps and 45s but no release of the score on CD or LP. One Eyed Jacks is on LP on the Liberty label. Very nice. And a cue of it on various LPs.

    I like many of his scores, three of my very favorites besides Best Years of Our LIves are the the War scores he did in 1956-1959 termed a great war triumvirate of his work-Between Heaven and Hell(FSM CD-great score), In Love and WAr(tremendous score-on Preamble CD-suite, wow what a great one too) and Young Lions on the Varese CD. Young Lions March was one of the pieces of film music heard often played by bands in America in early sixties and on TV all the time back then. Marching bands all over America were playing this along with HWWW and Caligulas entrance from Robe and others.

    Tremendous composer. Hey Graham, my want list of Fall 1984 of 120 titles, I got nearly all of those within three years after that. Only about 4-5 left on that. Stuck on those since early 90s. LOL. Some on CD now too. I found a store in KC(which has little of interest now, that had many on my list in 1984-I got 42 there over four months). And back in the early 80s there was a great store in OKC where I found over 50 great LPs, including many rare Goldsmiths and others. What a find!!!! Under Fire-4 dollars and many Herrmanns 4 dollars each, all like new. All the ones in KC at the store in 84 were mostly 4-5 dollars each and most were either NM or still sealed. WOW. Got my first copy of In Harms Way in OKC. My eyes popped out when I saw it there. Traded for it too. In 1979 started buying fast from STAR and f rom Intrada(then Cinemonde). Had about 150 LPs from earlier when I really got serious.

    Dont have a formal list now of CDs. Mostly what I buy now I get by mail. Not much at local stores these days of interest. And those 4-5 LPs above are hard to find now.

    John.

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    posted 01-03-2004 08:56 AM PT (US)     

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    Re. Friedhofer, yes, I really must get round to getting those FSM releases (BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL/ SOLDIER OF FORTUNE; ABOVE AND BEYOND; and the one he officially co-wrote with Alfred Newman - THE BRAVADOS). There's so much great stuff coming out all the time that even if you don't buy any scores for new films, you'd be broke or starving trying to get all the vintage releases. Not many bargains around for the really good stuff. I don't mind starving a bit for my CDs, but try explaining to the wife and kids why they're getting another bowl of bread and water for dinner...

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    posted 01-03-2004 10:18 AM PT (US)     

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    I just listened to that SAE clip from Broken Arrow. Sounds really nice. Seems like a good Friedhofer score like Between Heaven & Hell or The Young Lions. But 25$ =

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