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Jaav Standard Userer	Does anyone know who'll be scoring Troy? Man, I'm such a sucker for history movies and things like that! And let's not forget Brad Pitt, Orlando Bloom and Sean Bean. LOL Oh, and if someone knows, where can I find information like that? ~Jelle
posted 12-11-2003 12:31 PM PT (US)

Southall Standard Userer	You can find things like that out from me. It has often been said to me that there are simply no boundaries to my knowledge. Gabriel Yared is scoring Troy.
posted 12-11-2003 12:53 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	Let's test that Southall ;-) Who scored, "The Screeming Skull"? Since Speilberg nixed the DUEL DVD just a tad after it hit some shelves, when will it get a seal of approval and reach the shelfs again? How can I contact Buffy the Vampire Slayer composer, Thomas Wanker. I tried and tied amd even googled failed me. I can find no way to contact him and I can't find which agency he might be in. How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop? How much wood can a woodchuck chuck is a woodchuck could chuck wood? What are the home phone numbers of the people at Universal and other studios who don't want to give the rights out for releases? Give me feedback on my two cows damnit!
posted 12-11-2003 12:59 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: What are the home phone numbers of the people at Universal and other studios who don't want to give the rights out for releases? I don't know, but I do know they'll be calling 911 the moment you hang up.
posted 12-11-2003 01:06 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	Got two more: Who scored The Spitfire Grill rejected? Someone speculated it was Bernstein. And over at FSM we got the unanswered question: Who did the rejected score for Summer of 42'?
posted 12-11-2003 01:49 PM PT (US)

Jaav Standard Userer	Right, even you don't answer all these questions Southall (LOL), I don't know Gabriel Yared that well. Do you think he's a good choice? ~Jelle
posted 12-11-2003 01:53 PM PT (US)

Bond1965 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jaav: Right, even you don't answer all these questions Southall (LOL), I don't know Gabriel Yared that well. Do you think he's a good choice? ~Jelle Well...I'm not James Southall, but as another James I can tell you that I think this IS a good choice. Yared can do one thing most composers these days can't. WRITE MELODY. I'm sure he'll do fine if given the chance. James
posted 12-11-2003 01:56 PM PT (US)

Southall Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: Let's test that [b]Southall ;-) Who scored, "The Screeming Skull"? Since Speilberg nixed the DUEL DVD just a tad after it hit some shelves, when will it get a seal of approval and reach the shelfs again? How can I contact Buffy the Vampire Slayer composer, Thomas Wanker. I tried and tied amd even googled failed me. I can find no way to contact him and I can't find which agency he might be in. How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop? How much wood can a woodchuck chuck is a woodchuck could chuck wood? What are the home phone numbers of the people at Universal and other studios who don't want to give the rights out for releases? Give me feedback on my two cows damnit![/B] Easy, easy. In order... i) Lady Jane Grey ii) January 19 2006 iii) Just walk into your local police station and shout "WANKER! I WANT WANKER!" at the desk clerk iv) 36 v) Quite a lot vi) 106-777-9874
posted 12-11-2003 02:04 PM PT (US)

Southall Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jaav: Right, even you don't answer all these questions Southall (LOL), I don't know Gabriel Yared that well. Do you think he's a good choice? ~Jelle I think he's an excellent choice. A brave one, too. He won't write a Gladiator-ish score, which is what you might expect in the modern climate. I do worry however, given that the last time Wolfgang Peterson made an unexpected composer choice (Randy Newman on Air Force One), the score got rejected.
posted 12-11-2003 02:07 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	(sound of buzzer) Wrong! Lord! It takes 3 licks silly willy. yeah, I know the composer has a awfually odd choice for a lst name. At least his first name wasn't Randy.....
posted 12-11-2003 02:15 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	Okay, I have never heard a score by Gabriel and am willing to see what she has to offer. Unless Gabriel is a man's name in this case. :-() but I still really really wanted to hear what James horner would have doen. I know, I know. He would have ripped himself off, but I was looking forward to the rip off-ing. I imagine it would have had light hearted strings and powerful vocal chorus something like in Titanic, except with real people and some deep male voices.
posted 12-11-2003 02:19 PM PT (US)

Southall Standard Userer	Gabriel Yared is most certainly a man. He even has a beard - which puts him in the same league as Richard Attenborough and Lenin. Esteemed company, indeed.
posted 12-11-2003 02:23 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Southall: Gabriel Yared is most certainly a man. He even has a beard - which puts him in the same league as Richard Attenborough and Lenin. Esteemed company, indeed. I can think of many things less esteemed but more preferable to the company of men! And Jelle, in answer to your question - Yared is a good choice, and hopefully he will last to the theatrical cut of the film. Expect lush strings and mournful woodwinds for the non-battle scenes. Cold Mountains harsher scenes should prepare him for the grit required for this sort of film.
posted 12-11-2003 04:00 PM PT (US)

Big Owl Non-Standard Userer	What I want to know is who's scoring Oliver Stone's Alexander... It'd be awesome if Williams collaborated with him again, but he's already got a nearly full slate next year with two films...
posted 12-11-2003 09:00 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Big Owl: *What I want to know is who's scoring Oliver Stone's Alexander...* It'd be awesome if Williams collaborated with him again, but he's already got a nearly full slate next year with two films... Only 2 films... That's a full slate? How about GOLDSMITH??!!! J/K Since we're talking about Oliver Stone's film, how about Baz Luhrman's version? I'm excited to hear what Craig Armstrong will come up with....
posted 12-12-2003 12:43 AM PT (US)

Jaav Standard Userer	quote: Originally Posted By Southall:Gabriel Yared is most certainly a man. He even has a beard - which puts him in the same league as Richard Attenborough and Lenin. Esteemed company, indeed. Excellent! I like men with beards, hehe! quote: Originally Posted By franz_conrad:And Jelle, in answer to your question - Yared is a good choice, and hopefully he will last to the theatrical cut of the film. Expect lush strings and mournful woodwinds for the non-battle scenes. Cold Mountains harsher scenes should prepare him for the grit required for this sort of film. Woooo, sounds really promising! Although I couldn't stop wondering this night how Goldenthal would do it ^_^. I happened to listen to Final Fantasy: The Spirit Within before I hit the sack and well... yeah, I kept wondering. I need to go find me a Gabriel Yared score however. Any suggestions? quote: Originally Posted By Big Owl:What I want to know is who's scoring Oliver Stone's Alexander... Hmmm, so do I ^_^... Southall?
posted 12-12-2003 01:06 AM PT (US)

workaluk Standard Userer	For what i have listened from Gabriel Yared,i think his a bad choice,i don't really like his scores,his too melancolic,in my opinion,for such a film,with some intense battle scenes.... NP-Speed 2:Mark Mancina Nuno Cunha
posted 12-12-2003 03:14 AM PT (US)

James Standard Userer	Yeah, because God forbid action music from being melodic. Anyone unsure of Gabriel Yared should have a listen to his score Wings of Courage (minus the bandoneon tangos, which I doubt will show up in a film about ancient Greece). Yared is a great choice for this score, much more along the lines of "Lawrence of Arabia" than "Gladiator." If he goes through to the end, it shows Wolfgang Petersen is going for a tone that is much more "classical," in pretty much every sense of the word. Kirk
posted 12-12-2003 07:35 AM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	I heard that Vangelis was going to compose the score for Stone's Alexander the Great. I can't say for certain that it's true, but it makes sense given some of Vangelis' recent Greek-themed compositions that he'd be interested in doing something like this. Oh well... so much for Eleni Karaidou, Kaczmarek, Kilar or Goldenthal. Casio whirs-and-beeps it is that will conquer the world!
posted 12-12-2003 02:35 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by HadrianD: Since we're talking about Oliver Stone's film, how about Baz Luhrman's version? I'm excited to hear what Craig Armstrong will come up with.... The shifting back in production schedule for this film is a polite way to go about burying it. It's unlikely we'll see a Baz Luhrman take on this any time soon. It can join Gilliam's Quixote film, Arenofsky's The Fountain, Malick's White Palace and Scorsese's Solace among the fascinating 'almost-rans'.
posted 12-12-2003 02:39 PM PT (US)

Bond1965 Standard Userer	Funny no one has mentioned Richard Horowitz as a possibility. He did some original music for Stone's "Any Given Sunday" and is listed as doing "Ghengis Khan" for 2004 according to imdb.com. Horowitz tends to do the world music thing. Other films he's worked on include: "The Sheltering Sky," "Lakota Woman...," and "Three Seasons." (that would be films set in the Morrocan desert, the Native American west and Vietnam) James
posted 12-12-2003 02:55 PM PT (US)

workaluk Standard Userer	Well Mr.James,that's your opinion,for me this choice is one of the worst choices i've ever heard,like this only that choice,again by Wolfgang Petersen,of Randy Newman scoring Air Force One,which the score made me laugh. But then again,if we all liked women,Michael Jackson would never existed..... NP.More Music From Braveheart-James Horner Nuno Cunha
posted 12-12-2003 03:23 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Gabriel Yared...zzzzzzzzzzz....... I think this project would have been perfect for Goldsmith...although it might have ended up being recycled from The Mummy and 13th Warrior. But Yared...yikes.
posted 12-12-2003 04:24 PM PT (US)

BMikeJ Standard Userer	Jan Kaczmarek and Wojciech Kilar would be great for this project. I would also like to see Christopher Gordon, John Scott or Frederic Talgorn on this kind of film.
posted 12-12-2003 05:41 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Southall: I think he's an excellent choice. A brave one, too. He won't write a Gladiator-ish score, which is what you might expect in the modern climate. I do worry however, given that the last time Wolfgang Peterson made an unexpected composer choice (Randy Newman on Air Force One), the score got rejected. Your remark earlier in this thread about there being simply no bounds to your knowledge is sounding eerily true right now Mr. Southall.
posted 05-10-2004 11:32 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: but I still really really wanted to hear what James horner would have doen. I know, I know. He would have ripped himself off, but I was looking forward to the rip off-ing. I imagine it would have had light hearted strings and powerful vocal chorus something like in Titanic, except with real people and some deep male voices. Yes Franz, you make a good observation. Let's see if the same holds true for our dear Boggan Boggan's comments. Wouldn't that be simply astounding??
posted 05-11-2004 02:37 AM PT (US)

moviescore Standard Userer	FYI, Gabriel Yared's rejected score for Troy is unbelievably good. It's, without any doubt, the best score I've heard this year. I can't believe they didn't use it. It's outrageous. mikael
posted 05-11-2004 04:45 AM PT (US)

Big Owl Non-Standard Userer	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by moviescore: FYI, Gabriel Yared's rejected score for Troy is unbelievably good. It's, without any doubt, the best score I've heard this year. I can't believe they didn't use it. It's outrageous. mikael<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> That's really nice to know. [Message edited by Big Owl on 05-11-2004]
posted 05-11-2004 11:28 AM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	It's also nice to know Horner still steals from Prokofiev. Track 6 from those iTunes 30-second excerpts is a blatant rip off & variation on the Battle on the Ice cue from Alexander Nevsky. Which I guess we all expected... but sheesh. [Message edited by Dinko on 05-11-2004]
posted 05-11-2004 12:13 PM PT (US)

Tim_P Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Dinko: It's also nice to know Horner still steals from Prokofiev. Track 6 from those iTunes 30-second excerpts is a blatant rip off & variation on the Battle on the Ice cue from Alexander Nevsky. Which I guess we all expected... but sheesh. [Message edited by Dinko on 05-11-2004] Horner stealing from Prokofiev's "Battle on the Ice?" Wow, that's a new one. I mean...wow...I'm just speechless. My body is numb. I have no idea how to feel right now. It's like my whole world has just melted away around me, revealing only the stark cold of nothingness to envelop and slowly suffocate me. How could James Horner do this to me? Why God!!?? WHY!!!??? I'm gonna go listen to my Battle Beyond the Stars and Star Trek 3 CDs right now, where there are absolutely NO Nevsky rips... Tim
posted 05-11-2004 12:27 PM PT (US)

Bond1965 Standard Userer	Well I broke down and bought the CD today at Tower as it was on sale for $14.99. Normally I'd wait and get it used, but I was too curious to hear what Horner had done. I only got through the first 4 cues before I had to go to work and what I heard was a typical polished Horner score. I was surprised that the vocalizing by Tanja Tzarovska was so typical of the Lisa Gerrard/Natacha Atlas variety. I was kinda hoping for something different. That "middle eastern" female vocal chanting is really getting to be a cliche. While I am sure it was the same in Yared's score, as he utilized her as a soloist also, I would love to hear the differences between the scores. James
posted 05-11-2004 12:40 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by moviescore: FYI, Gabriel Yared's rejected score for Troy is unbelievably good. It's, without any doubt, the best score I've heard this year. I can't believe they didn't use it. It's outrageous. Is there a promo of this score, or are you a friend of the composer?
posted 05-11-2004 04:32 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	I cross my fingers in hopes of so. rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/listofrejectedscores.html
posted 05-11-2004 08:27 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: I cross my fingers in hopes of so. rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/listofrejectedscores.html That list has an error, Nick Glennie-Smith wrote music for The New Guy I am pretty sure. I think his name is in the credits of the movie and there's a few tracks that sound like they're deffinately from him. Clayton
posted 05-11-2004 09:50 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	Blame FSM, I copied their last updated list and have since added almost as many (and soon to be more) than they originally began with. It's not wrong,even if he was credited, for the majority of what he originally composed might have been rejected and a few cyes used. One of Isham's cues (A source cue) is still in Water World, another movie that I forget the name of featured all the of the rejected composer's source cues. And What's The Worse That Could Happen also has some of the cues from the original composer (and credits him I believe). But nice to know people are paying attention to my wonderful list :-)
posted 05-11-2004 10:01 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: But nice to know people are paying attention to my wonderful list :-) It is said there are simply no limits to the knowledge contained therein.
posted 05-11-2004 11:13 PM PT (US)

skiletic Standard Userer	this might be a repost, but troy samples are avail at http://www.samgoody.com/Music/Album.aspx?A_ID=R+++692468&P_ID=MST+++++++ looks like we have some enemy of the gates, track 6 looks like we have some braveheart, track 7, and oh, some stuff that sounds new, track 8 ! [Message edited by skiletic on 05-12-2004]
posted 05-12-2004 11:52 AM PT (US)

Justin Standard Userer	Freakin Horner!!!!!
posted 05-12-2004 01:13 PM PT (US)

dsg Non-Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Justin: Freakin Horner!!!!! I enjoyed the way his music worked in the film, and a good portion of the choral stuff seemed inspired by "The Serephim" by Dead Can Dance.... yeah, there are "Hornerisms" all over the place, but that's just his style.
posted 05-12-2004 02:51 PM PT (US)

cmmdrrudy Non-Standard Userer	I was wondering if anyone actually knows what the real track lasting for the Troy score is. I know that the Itunes store and the bestbuy score have different listings for it than those on the Amazon web page. I was debating where to buy it, and i wanted to know if there were two versions of the score.
posted 05-12-2004 05:51 PM PT (US)

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