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jessica_nunya Non-Standard Userer	I'm desperate to find the name of a song. It appeared in the first part of the movie Shallow Hal and also in the commercial for Holland America Alaskan Cruises. It was sang by a woman and the only words I can remember are...And at the end of the ocean, we can start all over again. Very romantic , very soft....please help me. jessica_nunya@hotmail.com
posted 11-19-2003 04:05 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	EricsonX, jsilvamishkin, jessica_nunya ... You know what I am sick and tired of? People coming to this site, registering and just making a couple posts looking for songs. Hasn't anyone watched the end credits? Hasn't any of them even tried google.com? How many non-standard users are registered here that only posted less than 5 times over the years and each time was for songs? Why do these people come here? There are swo many other places.
posted 11-19-2003 04:30 PM PT (US)

Jonesthecat Non-Standard Userer	You're probably looking for "Edge of the Ocean" sung by Ivy. It has appeared on other song soundtracks like Roswell.
posted 11-19-2003 04:37 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Justin, quit being such an *******. There is no rule saying people can't swing through here and post only once in their movie soundtrack quest, no matter how lame you might think it is. Come on. Show some respect, please. This is so insulting on so many levels. Jonesthecat, thanks for your helpful reply. Let's continue to help each other. It's a good thing.
posted 11-19-2003 05:03 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	PeterK, how about they show some respect? There are sites on the web for this. We score fans are few and this should be more of a sacred place. For lack of a better word. There are a 100 to 1 more sites for music than score. Why come here? Why? This site is clearly a score site. The overly dominating posts in this section are about score. It is insulting on many levels that they blow through here and contribute nothing more than a question for which there are through google, thousands of responses and answers. Sorry, I cannot agree with you. I'll be a giant ***** and b!tch and graon about it. It makes me mad.
posted 11-19-2003 05:22 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Justin, if your attitude above is to reflect how "sacred" it should be around here, I am outta here. I received a personal email from Jessica. She mentions the song means a lot for her anniversary, and she even wrote to Holland America by mail in hopes of finding her answer, after trying several other sites on the web. Anyway Justin.... Your type of "racism" (maybe called "genre-ism" in our case?) is, I sense, disrespectful and full of hate. This is not what I hope for this board.
posted 11-20-2003 07:52 AM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	PeterK, maybe you should leave. To brand me a racist over a comment I made about keeping this board about scores is rediculous. Just to also enlighten you, I did a quick dictionary.com search and they had two definitions: (1) The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. (2) Discrimination or prejudice based on race. How do I fall into either? I actually took offense to that. Do bother e-mailing me to try to apologize if you should infact even be thinking of doing so. Now, if she was a regualr member and actually contributed something to our score world, then I could forgive her. Otherwise, I do not hate her, I do not want to kill her or anything, I just don't want her here. I wouldn't go to a message baord about songs and post asking for Billy Goldenberg's "DUEL" just because I can't find it.
posted 11-20-2003 05:16 PM PT (US)

Jonesthecat Non-Standard Userer	Justin, why so hostile? Chill. She obviously came to this board because she thought she might get an answer. Not everyone has good web searching skills and that's okay. I love music, all kinds, especially classical and film scores. Being relatively new to the board myself, I find your attitude elitist and, how shall I say?, uncouth. That you're implying inherent superiority is bothersome, and I think that's what PeterK meant by "genre-ism." Let's drop this. NP: "Unlocking the Door," Long Walk Home from the Rabbit-Proof Fence (Gabriel)
posted 11-20-2003 08:17 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	Justin, the web site is MOVIEMUSIC.com. You see that? It say MOVIE MUSIC. Not "Movie Scores" or "For score enthusiasts only". There's no rule saying you can't post about anything other than scores. It's for anyone who wants to know anything about movie music. If you don't like these posts. Skip over them instead of causing problems. Clayton NP>Tomorrow Never Dies
posted 11-20-2003 08:47 PM PT (US)

Justin Standard Userer	I agree with Peter on this. This board is getting full of narrowminded "score lovers" and it's almost sad to say I listen to them. Because we all share a passion in film music doesn't mean the whole world must share our passion and certainly doesn't mean we should seclude people who are trying to gather info on something that is GASP not film music, but rather a film song. GROW UP!
posted 11-20-2003 08:48 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Standard Userer	Justin your myopic views about music are going to blind you to all the great non-score music out there. Complaining because someone dares to post a non-score question in your little pond? Com�on man! This kind of thing makes you seem petty. I know you can do better than this. I know you have a passion for film music, but you have to allow others their passion for different things. It really doesn�t hurt anything if some person you never met posts a question about a song in film. In fact your complaint generated more posts than people trying to answer the original post. Look it at this way: Suppose a person buys a songtrack for a specific song and listens to a few score tracks and discover film music as a result. What's the harm?
posted 11-20-2003 09:04 PM PT (US)

jessica_nunya Non-Standard Userer	Jonesthecat, first of all, I want to say Thank You. You were right and that was the song I was looking for. I am NOT great with the computer, I'm not knowledgeable about film...or web sites...or search engines. I'm a special ed teacher. The song meant a lot to me because I wanted it for my 30th anniversary. I meant no disrespect to anyone and I'm sorry if it came off as that. Don't worry justin..I won't be back. You made me feel most unwelcome. Thank you to those who defended my right to ask a question.
posted 11-21-2003 06:45 AM PT (US)

Lancelot Standard Userer	See? Now that's who should be recieving an e-mailed apology. Not everyone who comes here looking for a song is some 13-year old looking for the latest Teenybopper track featured fleetingly in some goofy summer movie. I know the impulse is to think that's the case. There's always the option to simply ignore the particular post, as well. Without response, it will certainly disappear fast enough, allowing uninterrupted access to the latest ROTK info/Jerry-Goldsmith-praising/Hans-Zimmer-bashing posts....
posted 11-21-2003 08:16 AM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	quote: Justin, if your attitude above is to reflect how "sacred" it should be around here, I am outta here. PeterK - My attitude defends it. It doesn't show how it really is. There is a difference. quote: Justin, why so hostile? Chill. She obviously came to this board because she thought she might get an answer. Not everyone has good web searching skills and that's okay. Jonesthecat - Not hostile, posting my opinion in hopes people like them can take a hint. My hostility is for Peter at the moment. Luckily I shall get over it, but not forget. So she doesn't have good web searching skills? Well pardon me for being a dick here, but how hard could it be? I didn't have good web searching skills either when I started using the web. I would type it into the search bar at the top and a list would come up of answers. Some showed search engines answers. How hard coulkd it be for her to make the next leap and do a search for "search engines"? Maybe I could be wrong, but come on. quote: I I love music, all kinds, especially classical and film scores. Being relatively new to the board myself, I find your attitude elitist and, how shall I say?, uncouth. That you're implying inherent superiority is bothersome, and I think that's what PeterK meant by "genre-ism." I love different types too, though not many. Elitist? Well, why not. Read my arguements again. If you still dissagree, then I still don't care. I never implied I had inherent superiority, though at the monent I think I am superior to a couple people in this thread. scoreguy16, I am going to blow by your answers instead of replying cause I think I may get a little too nasty. It should be a comma betwixt "posts" and "Skip" that in turn should be a lower case. quote: I agree with Peter on this. This board is getting full of narrowminded "score lovers" and it's almost sad to say I listen to them. - Why shouldn't we be? We're a lot less narrow minded then people who do not like scores. Think about that. quote: Because we all share a passion in film music doesn't mean the whole world must share our passion and certainly doesn't mean we should seclude people who are trying to gather info on something that is GASP not film music, but rather a film song. GROW UP! - Why not? We shouldn't have to seclude. There are so MANY places for songs compared to score. WE shouldn't have to seclude. Grow up? You first Justin ... number 2... quote: MWRuger Justin your myopic views about music are going to blind you to all the great non-score music out there. I like other types of music. I made a reply to a post, I think in the Junk Yard, listing a few of my personal favorite songs. Now that would have been the place for her to post her question. There it wouldn't have frazzled my nerves so much. quote: Complaining because someone dares to post a non-score question in your little pond? Com�on man! Oh, well, when you put it that way ... I STILL don't agree with you. quote: This kind of thing makes you seem petty. I know you can do better than this. I know you have a passion for film music, but you have to allow others their passion for different things. It really doesn�t hurt anything if some person you never met posts a question about a song in film. Well, when you put it that way ... you almost got me. As Soran said in ST: Generations "Nice try..." quote: Look it at this way: Suppose a person buys a songtrack for a specific song and listens to a few score tracks and discover film music as a result. What's the harm? No harm, I think that's great. They just don't need to come here asking for songs. quote: jessica_nunya - I meant no disrespect to anyone and I'm sorry if it came off as that. None was made, just a strong dissagreement in views. quote: Don't worry justin..I won't be back. You made me feel most unwelcome. Fine by me. You were never really here anyway. Let me tell you something if you are still coming back to look at the replies. There are a lot WORSE people at messabe boards. One in particular at filmscoremonthly.com and if you fret this much over just my reply, you may not find the internet that welcoming a place. Toughen up a bit sweet. [Message edited by justin boggan on 11-21-2003]
posted 11-21-2003 03:20 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Get a life, Justin. You're being a complete and unadulterated ass, and not the magnificent kind, as Shaun Rutherford tends to be. Oh, and thanks for running off a potential member. She seemed like a sweet girl, too. You know, just because a person brings something different to the table, doesn't mean they don't have something valuable to contribute. Who died and made you the Moviemusic.com czar? PK certainly didn't. I guess I'm just lost as to how a person can get off behaving in such a socially inept manner. Don't feel special though, you aren't the first I've encountered, and you most assuredly will not be the last. I won't speak for everyone (because I can't), but a big part of why I am here is not to converse with those who are into film music (that's just a perk), but to share my passion for the music with those who may not otherwise have an interest in it. Your approach to communication at Moviemusic.com is the antithesis of everything this message board is about. Open your mind a little... and work on your heart as well, while you are at it. Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 11-21-2003]
posted 11-21-2003 03:59 PM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	Yo Justin, what's the problem man, a simple straight question just needed a simple straight answer? There was absolutely no reason for this thread to turn into the slag-fest it's become! Chill man!
posted 11-21-2003 06:53 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	This thread is perhaps the most disgusting thing I've seen on this board. It's a pity that the 10 people who would agree with me on that and have posted their displeasure here wouldn't be enough to correct the petty impression justin made of the rest of us on SOMEONE WHO WAS TRYING TO FIND THE NAME OF A SONG FOR HER ANNIVERSAY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! [Message edited by franz_conrad on 11-21-2003]
posted 11-21-2003 08:15 PM PT (US)

Lancelot Standard Userer	I'm not trying to jump on Justin for picking the wrong moment to blow off steam, but the kind of reaction that it brought was a little shameful, for all of us. I think we encourage people to film music--but sometimes we do get a little covetous/eliteist about being film music fans, and the bitterness does tend to build up. The situation is bad enough that we continue to squabble amongst "our own kind" over "my composer is better than yours". But I've never been agreeable to the notion that "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen." That's a poor excuse for reckless venom, and should probably all be a little more tactful, on the whole.
posted 11-21-2003 09:44 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	Daniel?
posted 11-22-2003 05:19 AM PT (US)

CAT Standard Userer	Jessica... Don't feel bad, and please don't let this chase you away from here. There are many fine people here and many fine discussions as well. FYI, the very first time I posted here, I was advised to stay on topic and post my comments in "The Junkyad" where they belonged! Hell, I didn't even know what a junkyard was! LOL!! I'm glad you got the answer to your question, and hope you will have the desire to post in the future...and, Happy Anniversary! Justin? Are things ok with you? You don't seem yourself. CAT
posted 11-22-2003 08:01 AM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	Sorry, had a useless post here. [Message edited by scoreguy16 on 11-22-2003]
posted 11-22-2003 05:06 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Standard Userer	Maybe in addition to chasing off people who ask about non score film music we should also chase off those who can�t write a complete sentence. Justin, you have a lot a nerve complaining about someone not using a search engine when it�s obvious you don�t know how to use a spell checker. It�s a shame this isn�t usenet. A killfilter sure would be handy for some member�s posts. I find it amazing that you slag Ford for being a jerk when you have certainly shown that you are no better in either social graces or grammar.
posted 11-22-2003 08:22 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Standard Userer	Hey CAT. Long, long time, no talk. I'll give you an e-mail Monday. MWRuger, I shall only make one comment instead of all the pissy replies I could make now - A number of people would strongly disagree with you on that Thaxton thing. God, now look what you have made me gone and do. Mention his name ... my lips themselves do burn. Also intersting to note that as mentioned in another reply, more replies have been made to me than jessica_nunya. So why don't you people stop, cause I am only making rebucks anyway and let the replies come in. Plus deleting this thread would be a plus. It's one thing for a person to post their resentment (Like I did) of something, but to continue to use this thread as a way just to make miffed responses is just as bad as the faux pas nunya made. Now all of you are guilty. But I could just let it go, but only when everyone else does.
posted 11-22-2003 08:33 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Standard Userer	Marian, I think we might be thinking the same thing... The wording on all those posts over the months from supposedly different people is suspiciously similar. I think it's D2 trying to get us all worked up and sweaty under the collar!
posted 11-23-2003 08:22 AM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	I'm still wondering what film score lovers have that allows them to be so snobbish.
posted 11-23-2003 08:48 AM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Al: I'm still wondering what film score lovers have that allows them to be so snobbish. We're not all snobbish. Just some people on the board thing they're better than others. Clayton NP>The Jackal
posted 11-23-2003 01:00 PM PT (US)

Al Standard Userer	The purpose of the post wasn't to accuse as much as it was to tease, Clayton. After all, I am a film score enthusiast myself. NP: Goldsmith's "Looney Tunes"
posted 11-23-2003 08:30 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Standard Userer	"I wear my sunglasses at night... so I can... so I can..."
posted 11-23-2003 08:56 PM PT (US)

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