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    Topic:   Brother Bear soundtrack track listing

     MarkA
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    Disney yet again messes up... Mancina's score gets a small representation. (this reminds me of Tarzan)

    1. Great Spirits - Tina Turner
    2. Transformation - The Bulgarian Women's Choir
    3. Welcome - The Blind Boys Of Alabama Featuring Phil Collins, Oren Waters
    4. On My Way - Phil Collins
    5. No Way Out (Theme) - Phil Collins
    6. Look Through My Eyes - Phil Collins
    7. Transformation (Phil Collins Version) - Phil Collins
    8. Welcome (Phil Collins Version) - Phil Collins
    9. No Way Out (Theme) (Phil Collins Version) - Phil Collins
    10. Three Brothers - score
    11. Wakes As A Bear - score
    12. Wilderness Of Danger And Beauty - score

    Release date 10/21

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    posted 10-11-2003 09:41 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    But it's Phil Collins

    --Brian

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    posted 10-11-2003 10:28 AM PT (US)     

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    Well at least we get that much score. Plus you never know, Mancina might have mixed the tracks so that they're each really long. (Like Zimmer did with his single track from The Fan) Anyway, I miss Mancina's music. He still remains my favorite composer.

    Clayton

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    posted 10-11-2003 10:35 AM PT (US)     

     justin boggan
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    Here is how the tracklisting should appear:

    1. Some crap.**
    2. Some crap.**
    3. Some crap.*
    4. Some crap.*
    5. Some crap.*
    6. Some crap.*
    7. Some crap.*
    8. Some crap.*
    9. Some crap.*
    10. Three Brothers - score
    11. Wakes As A Bear - score
    12. Wilderness Of Danger And Beauty - score

    Key: * = Crap by someone els.

    We can hope like Tarzan, that some longer boot, or promo will surface.

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    posted 10-11-2003 11:14 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    I'm really excited about this one. Tab Murphy has written a great script, and assuming Phil Collins and Mark Mancina take it to new heights as they did with Tab's Tarzan, it's a win-win situation. Can't wait.

    Jeron

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    posted 10-11-2003 11:17 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    posted 10-11-2003 11:47 AM PT (US)     

     rkeaveney
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    Box office dud.

    Ryan

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    posted 10-11-2003 01:07 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Ryan, Brother Bear recieved higher ratings in its test screenings than even the Lion King did. I think this one has a lot of potential.

    Don't be such a bump on the log.

    Jeron

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    posted 10-11-2003 01:20 PM PT (US)     

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    Test Screenings are great, but the true box office figures are what determines how good the movie is doing or going to do. I personally do think this will flop. Disney is not branching "outside the box" and are going to start getting dominated by companies like Dreamworks and Warner Bros. We'll see how this movie goes though, I could be wrong but it's the same ol Disney like they were 10 years ago. Granted kids never change, but grown ups lose interest and they pay for the kids to go

    [Message edited by Justin on 10-11-2003]

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    posted 10-11-2003 03:03 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    I think the movie looks good. I'll see it

    --Brian

    [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 10-11-2003]

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    posted 10-11-2003 04:38 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Well, the same ol' Disney that existed 10 years ago is the same ol' Disney that produced Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King. All noteworthy and wonderful animated films. I would consider Tarzan, The Emperor's New Groove, and Lilo & Stitch great among their newer efforts.

    Not quite sure what your point is, J-dawgggggg. Disney's doin' alright. Brother Bear has the potential to be their next great animated film, and my opinion is that all the ingredients are there.

    And hey, not tryin' to rag on anyone, but if the same caliber films as the ones mentioned above aren't appealing to you like they did when you were a kid, well, maybe you've grown up! Food for thought... and boy, yeah, that was a deep one. LOL.

    Jeron

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    posted 10-11-2003 06:28 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Justin:
    Test Screenings are great, but the true box office figures are what determines how good the movie is doing or going to do. I personally do think this will flop. Disney is not branching "outside the box" and are going to start getting dominated by companies like Dreamworks and Warner Bros. We'll see how this movie goes though, I could be wrong but it's the same ol Disney like they were 10 years ago. Granted kids never change, but grown ups lose interest and they pay for the kids to go

    [Message edited by Justin on 10-11-2003]


    yeah, Willard got horrible scores at all 3 test screenings. yet it went on to be a box office hit!

    Jeff

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    posted 10-11-2003 08:31 PM PT (US)     

     rkeaveney
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    Hey, who knows -- BROTHER BEAR could be great. But great don't necessarily pay the bills, and Disney's last two major animated features: ATLANTIS and TREASURE PLANET were bombs, esp. PLANET which stumbling outta the gate earning about 10% of it's large $70 million dollar budget.

    LILO & STITCH was a modest success, but Disney Animation no longer equals the minimum $100 million dollars returns to qualify as a success.

    Ask DreamWorks, they can't buy a classically animated hit (SPIRIT, SINBAD).

    As for growing up, I actually go to see these films in theaters. I own TREASURE PLANET of DVD. It hurts that these films don't do as well as they used to, but the formula is old and the kids want razzle-dazzle, and that means C...G...I...

    Ryan

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    posted 10-11-2003 09:49 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    You make a good point, Ryan. It is a shame the films you mentioned (Atlantis and Treasure Planet) didn't do well. I'm fond of DreamWorks' animated films, though aside from Prince of Egypt, I suppose Chicken Run and Shrek are pretty much the creme de la creme w/ re: to their efforts - and those weren't traditional by any means.

    Pixar seems to be the only ones producing highly successful non-traditional animated films. Like you said, the kids want razzle-dazzle, and Pixar serves it up reeeaaallll nice.

    Anyway, what I've seen of Brother Bear excites me. It's a compelling story idea, and hey, the music in the trailer has been stuck in my head ever since I first saw it. I hope the rest lives up to that.

    ~J

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    posted 10-11-2003 10:40 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Ryan, you need to wait til you see the film before you bash it into the ground. Or call it crap

    But that's my personal view.

    --Brian

    NP: Matrix Music

    [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 10-11-2003]

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    posted 10-11-2003 11:27 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    CGI doesn't make a story good, or even sell well. CGI is not "razzle dazzle", like anyone making an animated movie should know. (I'm in school for Computer Animation now, and it's not because I want to make movies simply "flashier".)

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    posted 10-12-2003 12:00 AM PT (US)     

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    I'm with Lancelot on this one. The bombing of ATLANTIS and TREASURE PLANET had nothing to do with the animation, which in both cases was quite spectacular, and easily qualifies as razzle-dazzle. Pixar movies are successful because they have good stories with clever scripts that (a) treat their audience like children, but not like stupid children, and (b) entertain the adults enough that they have no qualms about taking kids to see it (multiple times).

    Pixar makes brilliant CGI, but if they didn't have such memorable stories and characters their films would bomb just as badly.

    Kirk

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    posted 10-12-2003 01:26 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Jeron:
    Well, the same ol' Disney that existed 10 years ago is the same ol' Disney that produced Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King. All noteworthy and wonderful animated films. [Message edited by Jeron on 10-11-2003]

    Ummm, actually Jeffrey Katzenberg LEFT DISNEY which explains the downfall in films.

    and Brian...you said, "Ryan, you need to wait til you see the film before you bash it into the ground. Or call it crap" but above you stated, "I think the movie looks good. I'll see it" How come Ryan can't express his opinion, but yours is valid? Same thing in "my opinion"

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    posted 10-12-2003 08:14 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
    Ryan, you need to wait til you see the film before you bash it into the ground. Or call it crap

    Take a pill, Brian. Ryan's skepticism is understandable, all things considered.

    [Message edited by Jeron on 10-12-2003]

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    posted 10-12-2003 10:57 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Because I'm a goofball

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    posted 10-12-2003 11:46 AM PT (US)     

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    I didn't say BROTHER BEAR was "crap" -- I just think that considering the current trend of classically animated films failing at the box office does not make BROTHER BEAR a surefire hit.

    As for CGI films being successful because of their stories, I don't think either ATLANTIS or TREASURE PLANT were particularly weak storywise. The reality is that CGI animated movies are much cooler for kids these days than traditionally animated films. They look more realitistic, and are merely feature-length Playstation games -- exactly what the mindless children of the world crave!

    Ryan
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    posted 10-12-2003 01:59 PM PT (US)     

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    Your cynicism (or is it contempt?) is not a good substitute for humor.

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    posted 10-12-2003 02:24 PM PT (US)     

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    justin boggan - I'm sure fans of Tina Turner and Phil Collins would love to hear your opinion on the soundtrack.

    Jeff78 - Actually, WILLARD flopped at the box office. The prospect of a film with rats probably turned people off...freakin' babies.

    Ryan - I agree that the failures of ATLANTIS and TREASURE PLANET are tragic. And can you believe that someone (the web address escapes me at the moment) actually blamed the underperformance of SINBAD on the fact that it was 2-D animated?! Yeah, I'll take "Asinine Reasons for a Film's Failure" for $1000, Alex.

    As for BROTHER BEAR, who knows how it will turn out. If it fails, and people say it was 2-D animation's fault, then that's the end of intelligence in our civilization.

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    posted 10-13-2003 10:36 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by SBD:
    If it fails, and people say it was 2-D animation's fault, then that's the end of intelligence in our civilization.

    When was the beginning?

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    posted 10-13-2003 12:20 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by SBD:
    justin boggan - I'm sure fans of Tina Turner and Phil Collins would love to hear your opinion on the soundtrack.

    Jeff78 - Actually, WILLARD flopped at the box office. The prospect of a film with rats probably turned people off...freakin' babies.

    Ryan - I agree that the failures of ATLANTIS and TREASURE PLANET are tragic. And can you believe that someone (the web address escapes me at the moment) actually blamed the underperformance of SINBAD on the fact that it was 2-D animated?! Yeah, I'll take "Asinine Reasons for a Film's Failure" for $1000, Alex.

    As for BROTHER BEAR, who knows how it will turn out. If it fails, and people say it was 2-D animation's fault, then that's the end of intelligence in our civilization.


    SBD,
    You really thought I was being serious about Willard??? lol...
    That aside, i still found the movie to be fun. Crispin Glover made the film.

    Jeff

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    posted 10-13-2003 05:17 PM PT (US)     

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    Actually, I think on #2 you should put "score". I am thinking it is probably composed by Mancina, with the choir.

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    posted 10-15-2003 01:18 PM PT (US)     

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    It's presumable to say that Mancina probably had a good hand in producing some of the Collins tracks like "Welcome" and "On My Way" and "No Way Out" and "Look Through My Eyes"

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    posted 10-16-2003 12:07 PM PT (US)     

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    SBD, I'm broke. If they send me a free copy I will be more than glad to.

    Track 2 eh? Anyone know if that's just score, a song, or a mix of both?

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    posted 10-16-2003 03:30 PM PT (US)     

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    Novinite.com references Billboard Mag and says in its lifestyile section that track 2 would be a Collins composition, translated in an inuit language, performed by the Bulgarian Women's Choir.

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    posted 10-16-2003 03:51 PM PT (US)     

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    For those wondering how much score there is:

    10. Three Brothers (6:44)
    11. Awakes as a Bear (6:48)
    12. Wilderness of Danger and Beauty (5:32)

    Composed by Mark Mancina AND Phil Collins

    NP: Brother Bear (****/*****)

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    posted 10-18-2003 01:52 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Steve Hughes:
    For those wondering how much score there is:

    10. Three Brothers (6:44)
    11. Awakes as a Bear (6:48)
    12. Wilderness of Danger and Beauty (5:32)

    Composed by Mark Mancina AND Phil Collins

    NP: Brother Bear (****/*****)


    Steve, I sure do wish there was more score, but whenever is that not the case? All things aside, it looks like you are enjoying the CD. I'm sure I will too! Can't wait.

    Jeron

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    posted 10-18-2003 07:59 AM PT (US)     
     

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