Universal rereleases Fiedel's T2 score with a 5.1 mix.

Clayton

And Philip Glass is a genius to my ears, but that recording of Koyaanisqatsi is pretty lifeless compared to the original.

Jeff

Could this be Elliot Goldenthal's S.W.A.T. in SACD?

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Originally posted by James:
And Philip Glass is a genius to my ears, but that recording of Koyaanisqatsi is pretty lifeless compared to the original.

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I believe this is the same as the "expanded" re-recording released on CD. In this case, I strongly disagree. I have the OST and the re-rec, and I think the re-rec is every bit as good as the original.

Jeff: if you can't hear the shrieking woodwinds, the wailing brass, and the dissonant strings in T3 all of them repeating variations on everything Beltrami has done in his horror scores (Scream, Faculty, etc, except Mimic), then it's really not my problem. Pretty much the only difference between Scream & T3 is that T3 has what has been so well described as pots and pans being banged.

This is not a question of style: Beltrami has often shown us that he can change his style. This is a question of writing a lame 'been there, heard that' horror score with no distinct personality for a sci-fi flick, which like it or not, had a very distinct musical personality in Fiedel's sound design.

Scream 1/2/3 and T3 are perfectly interchangeable and no one would ever notice any difference, Hulk and Spider-Man are not interchangeable no matter that the Elfman may have his own style.

I must admit, it's been a while since I've listened to the re-recording, and my comment may have been a little drastic. But although the re-rec is technically better (the musicians hit every mark perfectly, everyone is in perfect unison, tempos are strong in both the faster and slower movements, nothing is ever out of tune) I prefer the more raw sound of the OST. It's not as clean and not as perfect, but it's got something I can't really describe that the re-rec lacks. It's most apparent to me when the choir enters "The Grid." The vocals on the OST sound more choppy and frenzied. Really, it sounds like they got better singers for the re-rec...but I like the choir on the OST more.

So, I guess should have simply said "I prefer the OST." Incidentally, how does the OST work on CD with all the editing they did? I don't actually have it...I know it only from watching the film on DVD 6,000 times. And while I'm at it, how high on my list of priorities should that Tirol Concerto be?

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Originally posted by Dinko:
This is not a question of style: Beltrami has often shown us that he can change his style. This is a question of writing a lame 'been there, heard that' horror score with no distinct personality for a sci-fi flick, which like it or not, had a very distinct musical personality in Fiedel's sound design.

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While I still don't think the Scream scores and T3 are "perfectly interchangeable," I see (or hear) where you're coming from with this argument. It's true, regardless of the fact that I don't care for Fiedel's Terminator scores, they do have a distinct personality somewhat lacking in Beltrami's score.

Still, I'd sooner buy Beltrami's score in 5.1 than either of Fiedel's. That is, I would if I had a means to listen to it.

The Beltrami scores in question are similar in style and orchestration. There are no reused or even closely rehashed themes. There is certainly nothing going on between these scores to dismiss T3 out of hand.

If we were to take that route, then I would have to dismiss many of John Williams's or James Horner's action pieces. We could dump all of Trevor Jones's themes or most of Danny Elfman's work due to orchestration.

Holding onto the notion the Fiedel's quirky synth chirping (outside of the main theme of course) is superior to Beltrami's simply because it sounds like Scream is a petty argument.

Clayton

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Originally posted by Quill:
Dinko...I'm sensing a trend...first Legends of the Fall and Wyatt Earp...now Scream and T3.

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Maybe. But you're also confusing me with Ryan.

regarding The Grid, I see where you're coming from. My first contact with this score was the re-rec, so that's what I'm used to. When I first listened to Grid, it sounded very strange. I came to like it, though I still find it slightly strange.

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Originally posted by James:
Incidentally, how does the OST work on CD with all the editing they did? I don't actually have it...I know it only from watching the film on DVD 6,000 times.

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I've never seen the film, though I want to. And I admit I haven't listened to the OST too often, never closely enough to recognize the differences I think. Which means they can't be too striking. Or perhaps I should just listen to it again.

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And while I'm at it, how high on my list of priorities should that Tirol Concerto be?

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I like it a lot. It's rather short, about 26 minutes on a full-price CD, but it's one of those addictive things I often play two or three times in a row. Nice piano concerto, typical Glass, but very melodic, not die-hard minimalism. First movement is supposedly based on traditional Tyrolian folk tunes. Second movement is not; at least I hope, because otherwise it would mean The Truman Show must be set in Tirol - it starts out as a near-direct copy of a bit from that score. However it goes on for 16 wonderful minutes. It's one bit from this that I heard in a TV commercial for Tirol tourism, which made me go out and pick up the CD. Very quirky third movement.

So if that sounds interesting to you, and you can find it (no idea how the availability is outside Austria, though interestingly it's performed by a German orchestra), get it.

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NP - Noises, Sounds, and Sweet Airs (Michael Nyman)

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Now what can you tell me about this? Never heard of it.

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
So if that sounds interesting to you, and you can find it (no idea how the availability is outside Austria, though interestingly it's performed by a German orchestra), get it.

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Thanks, it does sound good. No idea when I'll be able to get it (I've forced myself to stop buying CDs and DVDs for a while in order to have money for concerts later this year), but I'll keep it in mind.

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Now what can you tell me about this? Never heard of it.

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See the thread I just started in the classical section.