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    Topic:   Star Trek mix

     sean
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    I'm trying to put together a mix music from the first six Star Trek films (Motion Picture to The Undiscovered Country), and there's pieces I love from those films, but I've never been good at putting together a compilation (is the "Astral Symphony" mix any good?). Has anyone here made one for these films, if so, what tracks did you use?

    Some that I'd want to use:

    TMP— Ilia's Theme, The Enterprise, Spock Walk, Floating Office, Vejur Flyover, Leaving Drydock

    Warth of Khan— Main Title, Surprise Attack, Genesis Countdown

    Search for Spock— Stealing The Enterprise, Returning to Vulcan, End Title

    The Voyage Home— End Credits

    The Final Frontier— The Mountain (2nd half), Without Help, A Busy Man, Life is a Dream

    The Undiscovered Country— Star Trek VI Suite, The Battle For Peace, Sign Off, Escape from Rura Pente

    Not in that order, of course, I'd like to make it pretty dynamic, and other tracks are possibilities, I guess I just didn't want some of them to be too repetetive, like both of Horner's might sound that way; the reason I only have one track from Trek IV is because I think that score would stick out like a sore thumb compared to the rest. Please give me some feeback, thanks!

    NP: Maniac from Flashdance! LOL!

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    posted 08-07-2003 06:28 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by sean:
    (is the "Astral Symphony" mix any good?). Has anyone here made one for these films, if so, what tracks did you use?

    Suffice it to say that since I bought the Astral Symphony, I haven't bothered making Star Trek compilations from the first 6 movies. The Astral Symphony is not definitive, it could be bettered, but it's good enough so as not to be worth the trouble of making my own compilation.


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    posted 08-07-2003 06:51 PM PT (US)     

     Jim M
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    Well, Loftybeck already did a magnificent collection...I love it...A staple cd to me...Especially the Star Trek V "Campfire" music....My personal favorite scene and Goldsmith cue in that film...

    [Message edited by Jim M on 08-07-2003]

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    posted 08-07-2003 07:36 PM PT (US)     

     franz_conrad
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    The Astral Symphony is very good, though of course it lacks the couple of tracks from Eidelman's Undiscovered Country score. (That score might be best represented by Escape from Rura Penthe, Overture/Praxis Goes Chernobyl and the closing credits suite.)

    Why not make two CDs? One for the Goldsmith scores (I,V,VIII,IX and X) and the other for Rosenman, Horner and Eidelman (note the intended exception). Problem is there's still not enough room for Goldsmith's brilliance!

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    posted 08-07-2003 11:37 PM PT (US)     

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    No Star Trek Compilation is complete without Eidelman's fantastic music, so stay away from The Astral Symphony.

    Franz,

    I agree with you leaving off Generations from your list, but why would you put Rosenman's horrible music on there? I thought that music alone ruined what should have been a very fun Star Trek movie.

    Audacity

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    posted 08-11-2003 09:26 AM PT (US)     

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    I must admit I laughed hysterically when I listened to the score for STIV in isolation a couple of years ago. It suddenly became clear to me that this was the Siamese twin of the score to another film I had grown up with - Lord of the Rings (generally and rightly considered to be a fine score).

    Having said that, I did grow up with STIV, and I find it hard not to chuckle when I listen to Astral Symphony and Chekhov's Escape, or the Hospital Chase come on. The Whaler cue is aggressive enough to rate as good action. And there is a very nice interpolation of the Alex Courage theme that has least often been integrated into the films in the STIV finale cue. Together with the suite performed on that Eidelman/Goldsmith-conducted compilation from the first nine films, these cues are enough for me and I've never tracked down the original score.

    I think probably one of the strengths of the Star Trek scoring legacy as opposed to other franchises is that its musical lineage is extremely diffuse. While the movie 'trilogy' of Wrath of Kahn, Search for Spock and Voyage Home doubtless would been best scored in entirety by Horner, I doubt that he would have brought much in the way of new material to the table for his last go (though I'll always wonder). At the very least, Rosenman's music has an unmistakable personality, whereas McCarthey's Generations score rarely establishes any memorable impressions.

    In the long run, the series belongs to Goldsmith, though perhaps he could do with a break for a little while. I can't remember the last time Howard Shore attempted a space epic - any thoughts?

    NP Two Towers (hence the suggestion)

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    posted 08-11-2003 03:56 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm sure anyone who reads this probably won't like it but I've always wondered how Hans Zimmer would approach a film like Star Trek, since, to my knowledge, he hasn't scored a film in space. And I'd actually like to hear Horner do another, after all this time away from the series I still think he could deliver to something like Star Trek, which there apparently won't be anymore films made of.

    NP: Stealing the Enterprise *****/*****

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    posted 08-11-2003 07:09 PM PT (US)     

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    Zimmer Star Trek? Blasphemer!!! No, I'll admit, I'm interested, but I'd tend to think it wouldn't work. Still, I'd well and truly greet the score to any sci-fi epic that Zimmer and the team scored.

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