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    Topic:   "The Philosopher" - Notes on a CD mix album

     Swashbuckler
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    I recently worked very hard on creating a mix CD, entitled "The Philosopher." The idea behind the CD was that it would be a collection of tracks, seamlessly edited together that would inspire a trance-like state for the listener. Over the course of eighty-one minutes, the CD is intended to be a unique aural experience. I wanted it to be a collection of film music that would inspire and haunt the listener. Hopefully, it would allow for a non-secular spiritual experience.

    This in and of itself would be a worthy pursuit, but there is an additional significance to working on this CD. I created the original version of "The Philosopher" over a year and a half ago, when I first upgraded my CD burning software to Nero (in whose keeping my CD burning projects have remained since). Ecstatic about the possibilities I now had, I sullied forth upon what remains to this day one of my most ambitious projects. "The Philosopher" was the first CD I burned with crossfades, sound equalization and CD-Text, all features that were brand-new at the time and are now standard on all of my CDs (all of my players will display CD-Text in one form or another, it is very useful).

    "The Philosopher" is by nature a head trip. It is one that I do not often offer to others owing as to the abstract nature of much of the material included on it. My film score compilations are a craft I have developed in solitude; most of my friends do not share my passion for this art form, and as a result the esoteric "Philosopher" CD is not as accessible as many of the other CDs I have made. Nevertheless, there are a few people that have heard "The Philosopher" and have appreciated it.

    The concept behind "The Philosopher" was one that inspired me with many other compilations. The idea of a seamless presentation from start to finish characterized most of my mixes from then on (and perfected with one, entitled "Songs of the Heavens," that to date is a disc I am most proud of in terms of a fusion between mastery of technology and an artistic impulse... it is a collection of some of the most beautiful film music I have heard). Many elements of CDs that I burned afterwards had elements directly inspired by "The Philosopher," and so I had no compunctions about cannabilizing ideas from other mixes to re-incorporate into the revised edition.

    The new version is overall a much more consistant listen than the original. I have kept many of the tracks that were most effective on the original disc (Brian Eno's "Prophecy Theme" from Dune, "Passion" from Peter Gabriel's The Last Temptation of Christ, "Moxica and the Horse" from Vangelis' 1492, etc.), but I have made quite a few alterations. Different selections from the same scores in some cases ("Breaking Away" from Graeme Revell's Dead Calm replaces the end titles, "The River" replaces "Ulysses' Theme" from Eleni Karaindrou's Ulysses' Gaze), elimination of tracks that, through constant listening, have proven not to hold up as well as what may have preceeded and followed them ("Jill Burning" from Simon Boswell's HardWare, "The Rieving Party" from Carter Burwell's Rob Roy, both decent tracks but not fitting with the overall tone of this album). Furthermore, music that was unavailable or not released yet upon the creation of the original CD has been added ("Farewell to Lorien," which was a cue from the extended version of The Fellowship of the Ring replaces Gandalf's death from "The Bridge of Khazad-Dum" [which was shortened on the album anyway]).

    Paying much more attention to symmetry gives the album a much more even feel as well. A track ported over from the original, "Dark Caravan" from Michael Small's Mountains of the Moon, features a hypnotic ney solo (a ney is an Arabic flute), that is answered towards the end of the album by a Chinese scale flute solo heard in Lalo Schifrin's "Be Happy" from THX 1138, which was not available during the creation of the original CD. Two new editions also act around instrumental solos; "Ghosts" from Thomas Newman's Road to Perdition is responded to by a piano-heavy cue, "Blood On His Face," from Wojciech Kilar's The Ninth Gate.

    I also framed the album with the sound of a thunderstorm, which was an idea that I used once before (not very successfully, as I tried to put a small, rainy interlude between each music track; the results were somewhat maudlin, actually, and I don't know why, as listening to the entire thunderstorm CD can be quite relaxing). Although it is only a framing device, it one that I think works in this context.

    One of the main advantages to this new edition is that the transitions are very much more polished than those on the original CD; in an attempt to take advantage of the then-brand-new ability to crossfade tracks, I forced crossfades onto tracks that didn't always work together. I was learning the technology as I was using it; I have more prelim mixes of "The Philosopher" than any other album I have created. My enthusiasm, however, leaves a certain raw magnetism to how some of the transitions on the original work (mostly towards the beginning of that album) that makes me realize that I will still listen to that original disc.

    Overall, I found it a very interesting experience to revisit material that I had worked on before. Many of the selections had already been made, and I knew better what would and would not work owing as to the year and a half I have spent listening to the previous version. This was not an inopportune time to have made the revision; Many of my friends, for the most part, heard only mixes I have made that fall into the "sampler" category (the exception being "Fantasy Adventure," a soundtrack to a large-scale epic story that the listener can make up for themselves), and are not representative of what I am capable of when I am actually struck by an idea that can be expressed this way. The original was created when I was finishing work on my film, which was something of a creative peak for myself; the screenplay I am currently collaborating on is coming closer to being completed, and I find myself in a similar artistic position as I did then.
    I have, in the past, gone back and redone other discs I created. My current 3-disc "Risk" set is the fourth generation for that purpose (the original was a tape I still have). The Jenga mixes have gone through several manifestations (mp3 technology is taking over that one), and the mix I created called "Drivin'" combines several ideas, most of which came from my first "concept album," the prospective soundtrack album from California Or Bust (one day, one day...). This is the first time I went back for a full revision of something with such a specific agenda (the CD, that is, not my creation of it), and the experience was a positive one. I do, however, value the original version of "The Philosopher" so it will not be going anywhere anytime soon...

    The Philosopher (81:35)


    1. Prelude / Thunderstorm (0:33)
    2. Opening: Let There Be Light (Close Encounters of the Third Kind) / John Williams (0:43)
    3. The Trip to Arrakis (Dune) / Toto (2:33)
    4. Hashish (Total Eclipse) / Jan A.P. Kaczmarek (3:35)
    5. The River (Ulysses' Gaze) / Eleni Karaindrou (4:49)
    6. Tales of the Future (Blade Runner) / Vangelis (4:37)
    7. Dark Caravan (Mountains of the Moon) / Michael Small (3:01)
    8. Ghosts (Road to Perdition) / Thomas Newman (3:37)
    9. Prophecy (Dune) / Brian Eno, Daniel Lanois, Roger Eno (4:14)
    10. Passion (The Last Temptation of Christ) / Peter Gabriel (7:34)
    11. Moxica and the Horse (1492: Conquest of Paradise) / Vangelis (7:01)
    12. High Fever (Jacob's Ladder) / Maurice Jarre (5:00)
    13. Dream (Liebestraum) / Mike Figgis (1:14)
    14. The Death of Grandma (Map of the Human Heart) / Gabriel Yared (1:00)
    15. Blue Room (Legend) / Tangerine Dream (3:06)
    16. Masked Ball (Eyes Wide Shut) / Jocelyn Pook (3:35)
    17. Ethereal (Internal Affairs) / Mike Figgis, Brian Banks, Anthony Marinelli (1:32)
    18. Breaking Free (Dead Calm) / Graeme Revell (6:21)
    19. Be Happy (THX 1138) / Lalo Schifrin (3:57)
    20. Opening (Amateur) / Ned Rifle, Jeffrey Taylor (2:35)
    21. Farewell to Lorien (The Fellowship of the Ring) / Howard Shore (4:33)
    22. Blood On His Face (The Ninth Gate) / Wojciech Kilar (1:08)
    23. Humanity Goes On Trial (Snow Falling On Cedars) / James Newton Howard (4:26)
    24. Finale / Thunderstorm (0:29)

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    posted 08-06-2003 09:39 AM PT (US)     

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    Fascinating article. Whenever I burn a CD it's usually based on some far more mundane theme ('Star Trek/Wars','John Barry 1992-2002','Music for Forgotten Films' (mostly Goldsmith music for forgettable films)), but this philosopher CD and the thought behind its conception are truly interesting.

    I really like Karaindou's score for Ulysses' Gaze - her score for Eternity and a Day has some piano work that might serve your purposes equally well.

    NP The Four Feathers (Horner)

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    posted 08-06-2003 02:39 PM PT (US)     

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    Should have included "Philosophers" from Prokofiev's "Cantada for the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution."

    Seriously, it's great!

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    posted 08-06-2003 06:20 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Wedge:
    Should have included "Philosophers" from Prokofiev's "Cantada for the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution."

    Seriously, it's great!


    I liked it better when it was called Willow. Frankly, that Prokofiev hack should be sued by the Horner estate.

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    posted 08-06-2003 06:34 PM PT (US)     

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    Marvelous idea Joshua!
    Wow, that CD seems to be really great. I’m exited. Didn’t you considered including something from Silvestri? He is pretty good with metaphysical music, like some cues for Contact are pretty awesome and very inspiring. However your selection was very good, and man, CDs have a limit, although the music they contain can be eternal.
    You know, I’ve often tried to do similar works, I call them “magical” when they can bring yourself to a higher level of understanding, a more contemplative level, more philosophical, that Plato’s Noesis and Aristotle’s Sophia, that level of self consciousness that The Philosopher has, in the authentic and genuine sense of that powerful word.
    I’ve never managed to make a whole CD with all that characteristics that yours has though. I’ve done some mixes of Thomas Newman’s “magical” scores, but nothing like the CD you came up with.
    I also compose that sort of music, in case you’re interested. Musically, it’s very simple if you analyse it to the classical way, but the important thing is the performance, which I pretty much enjoy, and while I play some of my compositions I feel that magical feeling of infinite amazement, so, I think that maybe it could cause a similar effect in someone else. I make some videos too, inspirational videos, and some independent film scoring too.
    Carefully listening to magical music is quite an extraordinary experience itself, however I really recommend you to grab your Discman (or your mp3 player or whatever you have, preferentially something with good sound quality) and your compilation, and go to a place with a lot of nature, a very nice landscape that you like, where you can be alone, and with the fewest interaction of anything urban, and start walking, start listening to your compilation at a high volume (comfortable though) think that you exist, think about existence itself, be amazed, be The Philosopher, philosophise, and feel that feeling that can only be felt, because it can’t be expressed with words, that feeling that the great composers try to express with their music due to the impossibility of doing it with words, feel the magic. Then you’ll realize that the compilation you made might be one of the things that you value the most.
    Please try to do it, please. Very probably I don’t even have to tell you this, since you came up with the idea of making the compilation after all and you might have already done it. But in case you haven’t, please do it.
    I’d love to get a copy of that compilation sometime. Maybe I could share some of the stuff I have too.
    Well, congratulations for the compilation and specially from the idea behind it and the title.
    I hope you don’t find my message too affected. Well, I’m a film music lover, that makes me already “different”

    Rach

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    posted 08-12-2003 08:03 AM PT (US)     

     Swashbuckler
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    Actually, you hit the nail right on the head.

    The purpose of this CD was to be a (healthy) mind-expanding experience, with ideas that are difficult, if not impossible to be conveyed in words, but nevertheless communicated through music.

    There were plenty of tracks that could have been on this CD, and one day I might venture a Volume Two.

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    posted 08-13-2003 10:59 AM PT (US)     
     

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