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GrizzlyMV Standard Userer	Just saw Bad Boys 2 last night. The movie was funny, but too damn violent. We don't really need to see some details sometime, but we see them.. anyway, for the music, I was disapointed. While the suspence music and pre-action music by Dr.Dre and Trevor Rabin was serving pretty well the movie, the rest is just a bad copy Gone In 60 Seconds. Worst, it's the sames cues that are used during the whole movie. It have only one theme that is ok (the little soft guitar theme in the soft moment), but it's never used anywhere else. There's only 1 sequence that I really liked the music and matched prety well with the movie. It's when everybody are at the police station before the final action scene. But overall, the movie miss the Mancina touch. :-( I'm disapointed because I thought that Rabin could have done better (and we don't need to hear comments like "this guys is very bad anyway"..) Don't expect a CD release...there's nothing really to release there...unfortunately..:-/
posted 07-31-2003 04:16 AM PT (US)

Audacity Standard Userer	I completely agree Griz. I was really disappointed in the music Rabin came up with. Someone else on this board said it already, the music Dre came up with was better. I don't know if it is because the original Bad Boys score is one of my favorites and my expectations were too high, or that Rabin got this project late and didn't have enough time, but he really dropped the ball. This coming from someone who loved his Gone in 60 Seconds and 6th Day scores. When this comes out on DVD someone should rip the audio apart and redub it with Mancina's score. Who is gonna volunteer? Audacity
posted 07-31-2003 09:37 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Standard Userer	I'm gonna do a Goldwasser: link Good movie, BAD!!!! score.
posted 07-31-2003 12:45 PM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	Bad movies, bad score. Remember that Trevor Rabin also wrote Bad Boys (1) with Mark Mancina and Nick Glennie-Smith, so it's not like he was a new hand in this. Also, did anyone notice how some of the action cues strangely sounded like Black Hawk Down; in particular, "Synchortone" and "Ashes to Ashes". The guitar theme was nice, and probably by Steve Jablosnky, since it did sound like his music for that BMW movie he did. [Message edited by sean on 07-31-2003]
posted 07-31-2003 03:43 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	The entire score stood out to me because i didn't like it. Well I liked it, just not for the film. Well it's good for the film, but it's not good for a Bad Boys film. There were one or two cues that stood out to me. The highway chase had some cool percussion music, and that soft guitar theme that reminded me of some other score that i can't remember. The other stuff was pretty much the same thing repeated over and over again. Oh and that one cue when you find out about the kidnaping. Plus the vocal parts from the trailer. Clayton
posted 07-31-2003 04:23 PM PT (US)

GrizzlyMV Standard Userer	Well, the vocal part in the trailer is from The One. The major problem with that score is that it's too much repetitive...I mean, at the beginning, the score is ok, but in the middle of the movie, we are tired to hear the same music playing again and again. I mean, for example, if you take one action cue, you'll hear the same techno beat during all the sequence, without changes or only littles one...Like if they play a loop. At the beginning of the loop, it may sound good. but keeping the same sound for too long, it become distracting. The score has it's moments. But it sound like a score that has to be done in a minute. Normal since they had less time with the departure of Mancina, but doing so much music in a short time give repetitive and sometime uninspired music. Remember, the movie is more than 2 hours long, and it's almost non stop action sequences. Hard to stay original when it's non stop action, but harder when you don't have enough time to work on your music..They were 3 for the score...
posted 08-01-2003 03:51 AM PT (US)

Dave Standard Userer	Just to sort of reiterate what Grizzly just posted. Rabin was brought in LATE and had to compose 2+ hours of music for a movie. That I am sure is not an easy task. Even for seasoned pro's creativity isn't like turning a faucet on and off. I think they did great for the amount of time they had. And to be honest I liked the music...sometimes a chaotic, drum pounding, loud score is exactly what a movie needs. And sometimes thats what I am in the mood to listen too. As to everyone running around saying this movie is too violent. Get over it. The movie is 75% action with lots of guns and lots of car chases. They sure as hell aint gonna tickle the bad guys to death. If you don't want to see blood. Go see a Disney flick. Complaining about violence in this movie is like complaining that there is too much blood in Interview with the Vampire. I recomend anyone who was disgusted with this stay away from the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I bet that will be violent too.
posted 08-02-2003 03:06 AM PT (US)

Justin Standard Userer	Well said Dave...I completely agree
posted 08-03-2003 10:07 AM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	Grizzly, are you sure about the vocal part in the trailer being from, "The One"? You can hear the EXACT same vocal part in a few different places in Bad Boys 2. Clayton
posted 08-03-2003 01:28 PM PT (US)

Justin Standard Userer	Yeah, I'm with Clayton...I don't remember that vocal part being anywhere in "The One"
posted 08-03-2003 02:15 PM PT (US)

GrizzlyMV Standard Userer	Well, it depend of the trailer you are refering to. But I'm talking about the lastest trailer, not the teaser. The one you can download from http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/badboys2/ the vocal part is from 1:49 to 2:04 and I'm 99% sure it's from The One. I'll find the exact same part from the score tomorrow and let you know. However, the beginning of that trailer is from the Bad Boys 2 score. If this is not the right trailer, which one are you referring to?
posted 08-03-2003 07:03 PM PT (US)

Justin Standard Userer	That's the one I was referring to. Still can't hear The One in there. Let me know which track it is and I'll take a listen.
posted 08-03-2003 08:13 PM PT (US)

GrizzlyMV Standard Userer	Well, just listen to the begining of The Final Search from the CD ( I think it's the last track on the CD). It's there. There's another part from The One as well, but I'd have to listen to the entire score to find the exact part. But for sure, it all come from The One.
posted 08-04-2003 04:16 AM PT (US)

GrizzlyMV Standard Userer	Oh and by the way, when I say it's too violent, I was referring only to some specific parts. For example, if a guy is already dead, the action is finished, then we don't really need to see his body exploding in parts to only see his leg down on the ground 3 seconds later. Maybe in a war movie, but not in a such movie like Bad Boys 2. Or seeing the head of a death body rolling of the body when a car roll over the dead guy. We already know that the car roll over the body, does we really need to see the head detaching and rolling on the ground like a bowling ball? That's the kind of "too much details" and that's what I was referring too when I said it was too much violent. It was useless violence and bring nothing to the story. Like I said, I have no problems with such details when it have it's place in a movie. But when it's free like in BB2....anyway, that's just my opinion. I liked the movie like it is. Without this "details", I'd simply loved it.
posted 08-04-2003 04:30 AM PT (US)

Richard Street Standard Userer	The British censors have passed the film with a 15, as opposed to the original's 18, and haven't ordered any cuts. I didn't feel the first one was overly excessive in the violence department, so I'd have thought the sequel would have been less explicitly graphic, rather than more.
posted 08-04-2003 05:45 AM PT (US)

lars b Standard Userer	Martin Lawrence + Will Smith + Jerry Bruchheimer + Michael Bay + Trevor Rabin = In short : SHITE !
posted 08-04-2003 09:23 AM PT (US)

GrizzlyMV Standard Userer	Ok. To come back to the music topic, instead of the violence topic. I found the part. Listen to the cue Extreme Motion from the score from 0:36 to 0:54. that's the exact cue used in the Bad Boys 2 trailer. Now I'm 100% sure.
posted 08-04-2003 10:30 AM PT (US)

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