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Topic: CAESAR on TNT...............???

meegle
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Anyone watch this? Very much a TV movie but, from what I heard, an above average score. Not sure who did it but I'm tempted to watch all of it just for the score.What do ya'll think?
posted 07-02-2003 11:33 PM PT (US) 
perfpitch

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I'd read the script for this Fourth of July turkey several months ago and, therefore, didn't expect too much of it. It hardly suprised me, then, when the film turned out to be a literal rendering of what was on the printed page.While the physical production was very impressive in scape (especially for television), and quite authentic, that's really all that can recommend this ill-conceived, nearly pointless enterprise. And even this visual presentation is compromised by the generally dreary cinematography.
I do have to admit that I'm prejusiced and spoiled. When one is familiar with the suave, ironic fatalism of Rex Harrison's nothing-less-than-brilliant portrayal of Julius Caesar in Joseph L. Mankiewicz's 1963 CLEOPATRA.
To begin with, at its best, the mini-series' writing is dull and literal, with little sense of the period or the personalities that were rolling dice to determine the fate of freedom and the world.
The cast is uniformly inept (with my special scorn reserved for Christopher Walken, as miscast an actor as one can possibly imagine in such a setting), with Jeremy Sisto totally at sea as a Caesar that captures none of the humor and abovementioned fatalism that inevitably must sustain and power any man's struggle to the top.
The direction is unimaginative, unable to capture either the epic sweep of its giant sets and sirging armies, or the intimate machinations of powerful men.
The score is nearly theme-less, and too often resorts to the kind of aimless, shapeless choral wailing that passes for music in latter-day revisionist epics like this one.
Ultimately the most important thing missing from this thing is a sense of Caesar's corruption by power, whatever nobility and regard for the Roman Republic he possessed during his opposition to the rule of the tyrant Sulla metamorphosing into his own lust for the crown of Rome.
I think the makers of this thing should've sat down, read a little Shakespeare, watched CITIZEN KANE a few times...and admitted that they just weren't up to the task of bringing this sort of thing to the screen.
[Message edited by perfpitch on 07-03-2003]
posted 07-03-2003 02:49 AM PT (US) 
Lancelot

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I disagree completely, though I did not think the film was intended to be greater than those earlier epics that preceeded it--I think the actors were excellent for the production at hand, and the film did not attempt to retread images and storylines that were already captured in other films...(e.g., rolling Cleopatra out of a carpet, or the instruction of Caesarion on how to deal sympathetically with strangers and brutally with friends....)Sisto does a commendable job that belies his age for undertaking such a role--(though only shortly before he was cast as Jesus in an earlier production.) In his role as a military leader and idealist, I do not feel that a character with more humor was called for--he bore the character with a tragic sadness, as one does not rise to such heights without consequences. Whatever was necessary for the story at hand, Sisto captured. Also the underused Chris Noth puts in a sympathetic performance as Pompey--indeed most of the roles were played sympathetically, perhaps to a certain detriment, though it allowed you to identify with each character's viewpoint. The story told--the rise and the betrayal--elaborates on certain aspect of the Caesar story that perhaps were glossed over in other retellings. There are certain key scenes that anyone expects to see with a story of Caesar, most famously the death in the Senate, which was handled here well.
I was pleased to see a memoriam to Richard Harris at the end credits, and while the opportunity seems rife to bemoan the fact that he is commemorated in such a "turkey", I feel that the recognition is appropriate, and that I'm sure Harris died a working man. Rarely do such people go out in too great a manner--Raul Julia, I'm sure, deserved better than "Street Fighter", however, at the very least he was recognized.)
posted 07-03-2003 06:40 AM PT (US) 
Dinko

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No movie with music by Carlo Siliotto can have a bad score.
posted 07-03-2003 07:43 AM PT (US) 
James Phillips

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Did anyone notice how much of a resemblance Jeremy Sisto had with composer John Corigliano? They both have the same eyes and lips.
posted 07-03-2003 07:47 AM PT (US) 
Dinko

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BTW, there appears to be a score album available on Warner Music.posted 07-03-2003 07:50 AM PT (US) 
Bob Bowd
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Thanks for mentioning the score, Dinko. You have good sensibilities when it comes to music. What was your impression of the score?Bob
posted 07-03-2003 08:01 AM PT (US) 
Dinko

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No idea. Haven't heard it.
The clips at amazon.de sound interesting. But that's all I know.

posted 07-03-2003 11:02 AM PT (US) 
joan hue

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I caught about the last 20 minutes of the series. Grand theme at the end and in the end credits. Composer is the same guy who composed the melodic FLUKE. I'd like to hear more of the score.
posted 07-03-2003 11:40 AM PT (US) 
perfpitch

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Caesar:Veni, vidi, taedi -- "He came, he saw, he bored."
posted 07-03-2003 12:37 PM PT (US) 
Bob Bowd
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Thanks, Joan. I would say that's a solid recommendation for the score. The genre has been a lifelong favourite of mine and usually brings out the best in the composers who tackle this kind of film. Few, however, have managed to achieve the authenticity of Rozsa's 'musical archaeology.' I started seriously collecting Rozsa's music, when I was 12, and his music is still captivating and fresh, today. Few have come close to his genius. I think the last Roman score I bought was by Trevor Jones.I don't think Williams has tackled a Roman theme, but I suspect he could do a very credible job, based on some of his work in the last two Indiana Jones films.
Generating an annotated list of composers who have tackled Roman antiquity would be an interesting project.
BB
posted 07-03-2003 02:36 PM PT (US) 
perfpitch

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I neglected to mention that the mini-series had an epilogue, tracking the fates of the principal personages in the story, with one detailing the life of post-Caesar "Mark Anthony" (yep, that's what it read) with Cleopatra.Had I known at the beginning that this was the level of their scholarship, I never would've wasted my time on the four-hour bore.
The kindest thing I can say about it is it wasn't on the execrable level of the "Cleopatra" mini-series ABC ran about three years ago, but that's merely praise by faint damnation.
posted 07-04-2003 03:55 AM PT (US) 
joan hue

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Bob, like I said, I only saw 20 minutes and heard a theme I liked. Nothing as great as Rozsa. I'd like to watch more of it, but if it is as bad as Perfpitch say, I don't know how long I'd last. Sometimes I wait for the video or DVD for the fast forward button. I find it interesting that we film music lovers often know when to stop the fast forward because we know what scenes "usually" call for music. I've done that many times with horrid movies that have solid scores.NP Ben Hur...solid Roman music, solid "any" music.
[Message edited by joan hue on 07-04-2003]
posted 07-04-2003 07:31 AM PT (US) 
Bob Bowd
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Hi Joan!I understand your sentiment concerning music and bad films. I would not want to recall the number of bad films I have tolerated just to hear a Jerry Goldsmith or Elmer Bernstein score. I read somewhere that Rozsa thought KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE was such dreck that he went back to Mallory for inspiration.
Your comment that the series had a 'grand theme' caught my attention, as it is often difficult to find an identifiable theme in many contemporary scores.
From Avie's remarks, I am happy that I did not know of this series. I usually do not watch much TV, except for news, and even that is becoming less frequent because I use the Internet and newspapers as more analytical news sources.
A very happy 4th of July to all of my American friends!
Bob
posted 07-04-2003 12:27 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
