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Topic: Goldsmith's Timeline tracklisting
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HAL 2000
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The link shows a tracklisting of the score from the master tapes. Someone was fortunate enough to hear the score and comments about it in glowing terms.
http://www.thetimelinemovie.com/
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posted 06-23-2003 11:43 AM PT (US) ip
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Southall
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This is the third time I've typed this, in three different messageboards, so bear with me!Goldsmith recorded about eighty minutes of music for that film, so it seems highly unlikely that there would be only twelve tracks. Either that is some sort of version of the music that was assembled for an album, or it's a hoax. If it's the former, then of course we might get to hear it after all.
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posted 06-23-2003 11:45 AM PT (US) ip
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HAL 2000
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Well, you're right. There should be many smaller incidental cues if this is the master session recording. And this source reports 14 tracks, not 12. Either way, I do hope that by some miracle there is a release of this score somehwre down the road.
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posted 06-23-2003 12:01 PM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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I think we'll see a release of this rejected score when we see a release of The Black Hole. In other words, we'll never see either score released.I agree with Southall that this could be a hoax. Anybody could have come up with those track titles after reading the damn book.
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posted 06-23-2003 01:42 PM PT (US) ip
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HAL 2000
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You mean a CD release of the Black Hole, don't you. The LP came out in 79 with the movie. That would be a re-release. The situations of the scores (Timeline, Black Hole) are very different. Realistically, I don't see much chance of a Goldsmith Timeline release. The best we could hope for at this point is some kind of coverage of Goldsmith's score on a bonus documentary on the DVD. And of course the bootleggers.
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posted 06-23-2003 02:14 PM PT (US) ip
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Dinko
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Can't we release it ourselves?Paying Jerry Goldsmith: 5$ << add necessary number of zeroes. Hiring a good orchestra: 50 000$
(hiring the Prague Crapophonic: 1$) Getting a studio and engineer: who cares. Having the score released by crazy fanboys for crazy fanboys: Priceless. There are somethings money can't buy, for every score needing a release, there's Fanboydom.
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posted 06-23-2003 02:24 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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I've seen the tracklist for a proposed soundtrack release with my own eyes. Goldsmith came up with these titles himself. Dunno about some of those song choices though... Here they are.01. Rejected Main Title from 'Timeline'
02. The Prologue / Anthony Hopkins Narration
03. After The Prologue
04. The Machine
05. Page 35 Scene
06. Richard Donner Stole My Ponytail
07. Joel's Cue
08. 10-minutes of Action (do not release this cue, please)
09. "Ave Satani" (source)
10. "Back In Time" - Huey Lewis and The News
11. The Elevator
12. The Catapult
13. Pushing The Catapult Into The Elevator Total Time: 29'32
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posted 06-23-2003 04:32 PM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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^^
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posted 06-23-2003 05:57 PM PT (US) ip
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franz_conrad
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Ryan, where do you come up with those track titles? I'm still laughing from your complete Matrix Reloaded tracklist!
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posted 06-23-2003 08:18 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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Originally posted by franz_conrad:
Ryan, where do you come up with those track titles? I'm still laughing from your complete Matrix Reloaded tracklist!
They're real I tell you!  Ryan
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posted 06-23-2003 09:06 PM PT (US) ip
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JoeInSanDiego
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He has WAY too much time on his hands...obviously...Joe P.S. Those really were quite funny...you have the talent Ryan...
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posted 06-24-2003 08:53 AM PT (US) ip
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justin boggan
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petitiononline.com/goldtime/petition.html
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posted 11-20-2003 01:27 PM PT (US) ip
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HadrianD
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Originally posted by justin boggan:
petitiononline.com/goldtime/petition.html
That's futile.
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posted 11-20-2003 02:40 PM PT (US) ip
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SBD
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quote:
Originally posted by HadrianD:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by justin boggan:
[b]petitiononline.com/goldtime/petition.html<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>That's futile. [/B]
And asinine. It's sad that Goldsmith got kicked off "Timeline", but some of these people are bagging on Brian Tyler and it is safe to assume that these putzes have never heard Tyler's music before. If they've heard "Darkness Falls" or "Frailty", they would be eating so much crow, it'd be coming out of their ears.
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posted 11-20-2003 05:27 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Originally posted by justin boggan:
petitiononline.com/goldtime/petition.html
You signed twice.
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posted 11-20-2003 06:44 PM PT (US) ip
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Hornerfan
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Woohoo! There are 494 (!!) signatures on that petition. Wow. That petition r0xx0rs!Give me a break... Mike
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posted 11-20-2003 08:17 PM PT (US) ip
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La La Land Records
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I have yet to hear Tyler's score. He has impressed me thus far, so I eagerly await to hear what he came up with for Timeline.I look at it this way -- Jerry has nothing to prove. To him it was just another gig. To Brian, this is his big shot at the big time. He has EVERYTHING to prove! BTW, Jerry, who is a God amongst us mortals, fails to deliver sometimes. I know some people who have heard his score and they were not that impressed. Not in the least. [Message edited by La La Land Records on 11-20-2003]
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posted 11-20-2003 09:13 PM PT (US) ip
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justin boggan
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I did? I didn't know. quote:
"Darkness Falls" or "Frailty",
It can just be a matter of opinion. I have read at other boards of people who said Timeline was just as boring as Frailty and Darkness Falls. Same with La La's statement about people saying they were not impressed with Goldsmith's effort. Others that have heard it are impressed. So, to say they would eat crow doesn't quite fit. How about just cake instead? :-)
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posted 11-21-2003 02:32 PM PT (US) ip
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Hornerfan
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So how exactly are people on 'other boards', which you don't link to, finding out that Tyler's score is 'boring'? And if they think Darkness Falls is boring, boy, they must think all music is boring.What a bunch of **** . You Goldsmith fanboys really piss me off. Mike
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posted 11-21-2003 03:46 PM PT (US) ip
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justin boggan
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Well damnit Hornerfan, I can't remember.
If it helps any I THINK it was jerrygoldsmithonline.com's Forum.How did I get labled a Goldsmith fanboy? I said nopthing in this thread about him being superior to all composers, though it's not a bad idea. ;-) Though I do choose Goldsmith cue for cue over every other composer I have heard with Williams coming in a close second.
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posted 11-21-2003 03:52 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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The Jerry Goldsmith Online msg board is loaded with bullshit.Don't believe a word on Goldsmith's TIMELINE you read there, particularly the months old and DISPROVED post regarding Tyler's score. Ryan
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posted 11-21-2003 05:12 PM PT (US) ip
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Mark Olivarez
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They just don't get it over there. Dan even tried to explain and the post that followed still didn't grasp what he had said.
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posted 11-21-2003 09:27 PM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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Originally posted by Hornerfan:
What a bunch of **** . You Goldsmith fanboys really piss me off.
Remind me to use such blanket statements about Horner followers as well.
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posted 11-22-2003 11:59 AM PT (US) ip
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SBD
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Originally posted by justin boggan:
So, to say they would eat crow doesn't quite fit. How about just cake instead? :-)
Because "eating crow" means that a person regrets something they said or did, whereas having them eat cake is nothing more than Marie Antionette's way of telling French peasants to piss off.
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posted 11-22-2003 06:27 PM PT (US) ip
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Al
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I've heard Darkness Falls and Frailty both before and after the Brian Tyler fad kicked in, and neither have ever impressed me enough to get me excited about any of his upcoming scores, including Timeline. But his previous scores have nothing to do with this anyway, being in a completely different genre, so he could very well throw something new in my ears that I'll be crazy about.The truth is, while I adore Goldsmith's music, I wasn't that thrilled by him being signed to yet another action movie, and I'm not too disappointed that his music won't be in this film. I am however frustrated that his music has been recorded and that I, a huge fan of his music, may never be able to hear it. I'm sure those who aren't crazy about Goldsmith can at least sympathize with this position. Anyway, to be fair, I can't get that excited about any composer being signed to a movie that looks to be as forgetful as Timeline. I'm not sure if I'll catch the flick, but if Tyler provides something that truly stands out of the film, then I don't think I'll need to anyway.
I have two hopes:
1. Brian Tyler truly lives up to the hype and delivers a score that both rises above the film and makes me understand the excitement surrounding him. 2. Jerry Goldsmith never has to deal with wasting his time with these movies for the rest of his life.
NP: Mancini's "Breakfast at Tiffany's"
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posted 11-22-2003 09:56 PM PT (US) ip
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Benford
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Yesterday I received the Timeline score and I must say it's an average score. Not bad but not great. Sounds like Darkness Falls or the Hunted. The music sounds sometimes like the orchestral parts of Young's Swordfish score.
I can't find a Brian Tyler style in this score. It's more like the Debney scoring style. No unique sound but competent standard action writing.
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posted 11-23-2003 01:26 PM PT (US) ip
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rkeaveney
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Originally posted by Benford:
Yesterday I received the Timeline score and I must say it's an average score. Not bad but not great. Sounds like Darkness Falls or the Hunted.
Euro-Goldsmith-Fanboy alert. Ryan
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posted 11-23-2003 02:32 PM PT (US) ip
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justin boggan
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---Man-hater alert---
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posted 11-23-2003 02:57 PM PT (US) ip
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Al
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Ryan, if you have a radar to detect Goldsmith fanboys down to their regional position, perhaps you're a tad paranoid.
NP: Goldsmith's "Looney Tunes"
6THOUsanD*StARS!!/*****
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posted 11-23-2003 08:35 PM PT (US) ip
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Hornerfan
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Originally posted by jonathan_little:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Hornerfan:
[b]What a bunch of **** . You Goldsmith fanboys really piss me off.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>Remind me to use such blanket statements about Horner followers as well.[/B]
If you've followed my posts, you would know that I never actively bash any one composer, as a lot of Goldsmith fanboys seem to do (especially with John Williams). Mike
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posted 11-23-2003 09:15 PM PT (US) ip
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HAL 2000
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Everybody just SHUUUUT UUUUP!
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posted 11-24-2003 07:11 AM PT (US) ip
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