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    Topic:   Pino Donaggio

     Ken S
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    The name of Pino Donaggio may bring to most minds only low-quality thrillers, BUT OH BOY what BEAUTIFUL MUSIC this man has made !! As a lover of a "Thousand Strings" sound I can happily say that Donaggio is really the Maestro of Strings - I have always loved the Natale Massara & Orchestra Sinfonica di Milano re-recorded short suite from CARRIE, and now after getting several new (but actually old) works by Donaggio, I'm really IN LOVE !!

    RAISING CAIN includes a breathtaking love theme - but I truly fell in love with THE GAMBLE, which includes another gorgeous, sweeping main theme and some wondrous soaring variations on it like in the good old Williams "Flying" mode. Other excellent works from Donaggio include the quite recent UP AT THE VILLA, and older ones like OLTRE LA PORTA and even the quite disturbing but extremely effective score for Nicolas Roeg's DON'T LOOK NOW from 1973.

    APPOINTMENT WITH DEATH is surprisingly very "light" when compared to the more "usual" Donaggio style. My other Donaggio favorites naturally include CARRIE, BODY DOUBLE, and DRESSED TO KILL (including some magnificent string writing), and also such lesser-known scores as DÉJĀVU and GOING BANANAS (the latter including yet another extremely beautiful, sweeping Main Theme).

    Any other thoughts on Donaggio ---?

    KEN

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    posted 05-31-2003 04:09 PM PT (US)     

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    THE HOWLING is a rather creepy score; too bad the upcoming SE DVD doesn't have the isolated score like the SE laserdisc did....

    While I love certain themes in CARRIE, there are a few cues that make me cringe.

    Dan

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    posted 05-31-2003 04:25 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    De Palma - low quality??

    NP: The Blues Brothers

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    posted 05-31-2003 04:53 PM PT (US)     

     Ken S
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    While I love certain themes in CARRIE, there are a few cues that make me cringe.

    I do agree about those "few cues" - but I believe that those specific cues were ordered in their place by Da Palma, not Donaggio.

    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    De Palma - low quality??

    Well, with the exception of CARRIE, PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE and THE FURY, I honestly can't say that DaPalma's other movies would be that great...

    KEN

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    posted 05-31-2003 07:07 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I wasn't that impressed by Carrie myself... but The Fury, Dressed to Kill, Carlito's Way, Blow Out, Mission Impossible, Femme Fatale - all very good and/or great movies.

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    posted 05-31-2003 07:10 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    I wasn't that impressed by Carrie myself... but The Fury, Dressed to Kill, Carlito's Way, Blow Out, Mission Impossible, Femme Fatale - all very good and/or great movies.

    I am shocked - SHOCKED! - that you left out one of DePalma's best films ever: THE UNTOUCHABLES.

    Dan

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    posted 05-31-2003 08:45 PM PT (US)     

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    This may come as a shock: I kind of liked DePalma's Mission to Mars... and I loved the Morricone score.

    < Loud exclamations from the forum of taste as that pipe organ suspense music starts up...>

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    posted 06-01-2003 01:16 AM PT (US)     

     Richard Street
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    Yes, DRESSED TO KILL is an absolutely essential score. The Varese disc sounds much better than the same tracks on the Milan compilation, which is a useful sampler for DePalma's collaboration with Donaggio, but I'm happier with the originals. RAISING CAIN is pretty fine as well, but I need to replace my copy as it skips badly. BLOW OUT is almost up there with DTK.

    CARRIE is a score I don't listen to much, because I don't much care for the songs and the dialogue cues (and at least one of the score cues, if I remember right, is pure noise).

    Away from DePalma: I picked up his GIOVANNI FALCONE score a few weeks ago, and that's not bad either. THE GAMBLE is quite lovely, but my memory is that there are some distracting electronics in there as well. Ditto for COLPO DI CODA (TRUST) which is/was available on Cam.

    One other recommendation: UP AT THE VILLA on Varese, which has some of those lush Donaggio orchestrations that recall his DRESSED TO KILL.

    So back on dePalma: is there any hope that someone - anyone? Prometheus? Intrada? Varese Club? - can put out BODY DOUBLE? The re-recorded tracks on that Milan disc are fine as far as they go, but that's nowhere near far enough....

    NP: PLUNKETT AND MACLEANE (Craig Armstrong)

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    posted 06-01-2003 04:50 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Richard Street:
    So back on dePalma: is there any hope that someone - anyone? Prometheus? Intrada? Varese Club? - can put out BODY DOUBLE? The re-recorded tracks on that Milan disc are fine as far as they go, but that's nowhere near far enough....

    "...anyone..."

    Here you go, Richard ! http://www.kolumbus.fi/kenneth.sundberg/mlspe_bodyd.html

    KEN

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    posted 06-01-2003 06:09 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    I am shocked - SHOCKED! - that you left out one of DePalma's best films ever: THE UNTOUCHABLES.

    Oh, it's good, but for me it's not quite in the same league.

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    posted 06-01-2003 07:27 AM PT (US)     

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    Not in the same league? Marian, The Untouchables is excellent, gotta love DeNiro's over the top performance ...to each their own I guess ...and what a fantastic score by Morricone?...hot damn but I'm gonna put it on right now!

    THE FURY was the first DePala film I ever saw, it's cheesey but I love it, Kirk Douglas hates this film and wishes he'd never done it?? a shame as I thought his performance was very good and what else can one say about Williams's brilliant score!

    Oh, and franz...I too love Morricone's Mission To Mars score

    NP : THE UNTOUCHABLES

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    posted 06-01-2003 07:42 AM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    Ken, I think that Donaggio is the perfect composer for Brian De Palma films, because they both share that over-the-top sense of drama which is always in danger of toppling into the laughable. Or maybe that's a danger in itself - would De Palma's questionable histrionics seem less hysterical WITHOUT the Donaggio accompaniements?

    Whatever, I've kind of grown out of both the director and the composer - they made a huge impression on me when I was a teenager, but I find their approaches to film-making and composing just a trifle infantile today. De Palma did some great early films - have you seen HI MOM! starring a young Robert De Niro? And Donaggio did some great work away from De Palma - DON'T LOOK NOW is splendid (I love the way he scored the sex scene between Donald Sutherland and Julie Christie with that light guitar and flute theme - very different from the overtly "porno" schtick he would use for subsequent films with scenes of nakedness in them).

    So, I still like Donaggio's music, even for De Palma films, especially the first half of DRESSED TO KILL, with that almost balletic use of music in the museum sequence, and CARRIE is very good (the quasi-religious dirge with all those candles burning), but on the whole I think that his directness of approach almost borders on parody.

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    posted 06-01-2003 02:26 PM PT (US)     

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Ken S:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Richard Street:
    So back on dePalma: is there any hope that someone - anyone? Prometheus? Intrada? Varese Club? - can put out BODY DOUBLE? The re-recorded tracks on that Milan disc are fine as far as they go, but that's nowhere near far enough....<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    "...anyone..."

    Here you go, Richard ! http://www.kolumbus.fi/kenneth.sundberg/mlspe_bodyd.html

    KEN<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    What's the point of that site? Is it just for the owner to show off his collection?
    It says, "NOT FOR SALE", so what's the point? You apparently can't buy any of the titles he has there.

    If there IS a way to buy them from him......I would really appreciate knowing what the process is.

    Ron S.

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    posted 06-02-2003 01:16 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by enigmaron:
    What's the point of that site? Is it just for the owner to show off his collection? It says, "NOT FOR SALE", so what's the point? You apparently can't buy any of the titles he has there.

    Ron, I appreciate your ability TO READ and TO UNDERSTAND, because you've understood it perfectly correct: I don't SELL anything from my collection. The main point of that site is indeed for me to show off the special items I continuously produce for my collection. I'm a schizophrenic bastard - but I'm also probably the only person in the Internet who takes responsibility of his every action.

    quote:
    If there IS a way to buy them from him......I would really appreciate knowing what the process is.

    There ISN'T a way to buy them from me, because I don't SELL them. Period. And as I already said, I'm a schizophrenic bastard, because nowadays I don't like doing trades either - and I should probably take my Music Library completely away from the 'Net (...I'm truly exhausted because of the continuous flow of one-sentence e-mail inquiries of my collection).

    As I said, I'm a schizophrenic bastard.

    KEN

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    posted 06-02-2003 05:24 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Ken S:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by enigmaron:
    What's the point of that site? Is it just for the owner to show off his collection? It says, "NOT FOR SALE", so what's the point? You apparently can't buy any of the titles he has there. <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Ron, I appreciate your ability TO READ and TO UNDERSTAND, because you've understood it perfectly correct: I don't SELL anything from my collection. The main point of that site is indeed for me to show off the special items I continuously produce for my collection. I'm a schizophrenic bastard - but I'm also probably the only person in the Internet who takes responsibility of his every action.

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>If there IS a way to buy them from him......I would really appreciate knowing what the process is. <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    There ISN'T a way to buy them from me, because I don't SELL them. Period. And as I already said, I'm a schizophrenic bastard, because nowadays I don't like doing trades either - and I should probably take my Music Library completely away from the 'Net (...I'm truly exhausted because of the continuous flow of one-sentence e-mail inquiries of my collection).

    As I said, I'm a schizophrenic bastard.

    KEN


    Ken!

    I don't know about your being an "Schizophrenic Bastard", but I'm sure I'm not the only one here that's damn envious of your collection.

    Best,

    Ron S.

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    posted 06-04-2003 03:09 AM PT (US)     

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    Well, my question still stands then:

    Is there any hope that someone - anyone? Prometheus? Intrada? Varese Club? - can put out BODY DOUBLE?


    NP: BACKDRAFT (Hans Zimmer)

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    posted 06-04-2003 11:09 AM PT (US)     

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    I just got the howling complete score a few weeks ago with over 40 tracks, it truly is an awesome score.

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    posted 06-04-2003 12:14 PM PT (US)     

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    The only Donaggio score I have is BLOW OUT and I highly recommend it.

    Juha

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    posted 06-04-2003 12:19 PM PT (US)     
     

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