In the Historical Romance genre, this is one of the great ones!

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Originally posted by Camillu:
In no way do I mean to sound unfriendly or anal - but in the interest of netiquette, is there any particular reason why all your threads have to be written in caps?

Just asking...

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Hi Camillu:

The matter of netiquette interests me, as I perceive it as a bit of moving target in what it means to different folks.

When you see a poster using 'caps', what does it mean to you?

I have a side interest in sociolinguistics, thus my question.

Regards,
Bob

I should also have listed among my few disappointments that the film's seldom-heard Overture was also not included...

"Aaaahhhhh!!!" lips don't sync with the mouth, "Alfred Newman is attacking!!!"

Alfred: "Aaggggghhhh!!!" stpes on buildings.

Universal Vaults Head: "We must save the masters which we have no intention of releasing ever!"

Alfred steps on them. SPLAT!

Alfred: "AAAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!!"

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Originally posted by Dana Wilcox:
This topic deserves neon lights!

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Is that it? Is that the sum total of your contribution to this topic? We know you are a spineless sycophant already, without you coming here to lick Original's ass as well.

As for Newman's CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE, well, it's a fine score that is of course best enjoyed within the movie. Whilst it's great to see Newman (who was second only to Steiner as a pioneer of modern film-scoring technique) getting the kind of recognition he deserves these days, the best place to enjoy Newman's CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE outside of the movie is with the symphonic suite he specially composed which can be found on the excellent Delos release.

With the Symphonic Suite, Newman attempted to make his CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE more palatable as a purely listening experience without diluting the thematic material. Indeed, Newman created a symphonic poem that not only succeeded in blending all of the score's best attributes but also developed the thematic material further than is found in the original score itself.

So there's only one assh0le at this thread, and that's its originator.......

ACTUALLY, I USUALLY PASS OVER STUFF THAT IS ALL CAPS, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS HARDER TO READ THINGS THAT ARE ALL IN CAPS.

(AND LESS ALL CAPS THREAD TITLES WOULD BE A GOOD THING)

And I don't know how "Don Webster" can come in here (after he registered 05/09/2003 with 14 posts in his first two days of membership) and start calling people a-holes.

Let's not insult folks. We have enough of that with some people that won't stop.

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Originally posted by jonathan_little:

This appears to be another Daniel2.....

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I think you'll find that everyone arrived at that fact yesterday.....

As for the speculation by some that "Don" may be Daniel2 in **** 's clothing, one thing Daniel never did during his run on the FSM board -- to the best of my rocollection -- is dispute the value of film music, per se (besides, I see none of his then-ubiquitous Union Flags waving within his posts, though he may simply be rather ashamed of Tony Blair's recent role as Bush's toady).

(Interesting: the site seems to automatically reduce well-known vulgarities, such as the one I employed above to a series of bland asterisks [how quaintly prudish, though spacing out the letters with hyphens seems to neatly circumvent that bit of surprising cyber-censorshp]. I guess I'm going to have to take a page from the now-beloved former Iraqi Information Minister and devise some more creative insults...)

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Originally posted by perfpitch:
The question must be asked, "Donny" boy, is why anyone would bother to join a film music website message board, and then promptly assert that such music is worthless outside the film for which it was written... [Message edited by perfpitch on 05-11-2003]

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What an extraordinary thing to say......

I suppose you go to art galleries just to admire the frames, because that's how I see soundtrack albums.....empty picture frames.

And you have the cheek to question my reasons for posting at a message board devoted to film music? I adore film music (and I have always made that clear), but only in its proper context. In many ways it is you who is the 'oddity' (though you are in good company here).......I find it extremely odd that anyone would want to habitually listen to film music outside of the movie. I mean, what's the point? There is an extraordinary amount of music out there written specifically to be enjoyed as a purely listening experience......my 'recommended listening' thread merely hints at the treasures to be found. And much of that music is superficially 'cinematic' in sound.

So I have to wonder, why is it you bother to listen to film music outside of the movie? Nine times out of ten a soundtrack album contains music that is derivative, repetitive, disjointed, musically meaningless and simplistic, and 99% of soundtrack albums don't even represent the full score - imagine listening to the first movement of Mahler's 4th symphony without the recapitulation. But that's the crucial difference between film music and all other forms of music.......film music is necessarily simplistic and fragmentary; in many ways a film score containing music that is 'too good' or 'too well developed' or 'too sophisticated' will damage the success of the overall picture. Compare Korngold's movie scores with his operas. 'Between Two Worlds' has thematic material based on his earlier magnum opus, the opera 'The Miracle of Heliane' (completed in 1927). The movie displayed Korngold's consummate skill as a dramatist, but the opera allowed the composer to vent his full creative potential as a writer of music. Whilst Korngold was a great film composer, working in films restricted his true musical genius. Just take a listen to 'The Miracle of Heliane' and you'll see what I mean. (I discuss Korngold's greatest opera at my 'recommended listening' thread).

Surely you can see that a film composer is 'compiling' his score solely with the needs of the movie in mind (or he should be). Can't you see that the movie gives just as much meaning to the film score, as the film score contributes to the success of the overall picture.....?

Having said all of that, I would never question your rights and reasons for posting at a Movie Music message board. As you well know, I believe FSM were totally wrong to ban you from posting at their forum......me, yes, I was (and am) too obnoxious and repellent to be tolerated by even the most broadminded of moderators and members, but you added all-important character to the FSM board, just as you are doing here.

Of course I'm DANIEL2 and I have always communicated my personal belief that soundtrack albums (99% of the time) make for wretchedly unsatisfactory stand-alone listening. There are of course exceptions, please refer to my earlier 'Splash' postings at this very message where I discuss the merits of George Fenton's superb 'White Mischief' and Phillipe Sarde's 'Ghost Story'.....

As to the war in Iraq......I had my misgivings, as any sane person would....but once the decision was made and our troops went in, those doubts were put aside - the men and women risking their lives on our behalf deserved nothing less.

I used to love posting images with my messages, the sight of Union Flags fluttering alongside tales of British endeavour in the New World used to inflame the naive 'Free Ireland' contingent (like Big Bear) more than pure text ever could. It always amazed me that some Americans who frequent this site didn't even know that Williams Penn was English or that the American Constitution is based on the philosophies of Englishmen such as John Locke and Thomas Paine.