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Topic: Matrix-Reloaded-Mona-Lisa-Theme-Question

DVDRick

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Hi,I heard this cd2 of Matrix Reloaded several times now and I always hear a "**** you" (or something like that) in the Mona Lisa Theme. It only happens once in the complete song.
First time I heard that, I wasnt listening correctly to the music during my work. Then bam.. I thought huh??? Then I heard it again and again... Now it makes me a but jerkily, maybe its a hidden thing or so?? Just need a proof that somebody hears the same or interpreted something into it like me.
Mona Lisa Song located on CD2 Time: 2:05 to 2:10.
I prefer begin listening from the start to 2:10, because then you will hear it at the best.DVDRick
PS: by the way.. this score fits perfectly to a matrix movie!!!posted 05-05-2003 02:58 PM PT (US) 
Ted

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Just out of curiosity, but where are all of you hearing this soundtrack...isn't it supposed to come out tomorrow?--Ted
posted 05-05-2003 03:01 PM PT (US) 
Dan Brecher

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DVDRick's bio credits him as a native of Germany. The European (and in fact international) release of the Reloaded CD was today, Monday the 5th.Dan (UK)
[Message edited by Dan Brecher on 05-05-2003]
posted 05-05-2003 03:05 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by DVDRick:
First time I heard that, I wasnt listening correctly to the music during my work. Then bam.. I thought huh??? Then I heard it again and again... Now it makes me a but jerkily, maybe its a hidden thing or so?? Just need a proof that somebody hears the same or interpreted something into it like me.Uhhh.... no, I don't hear that at all. Just some electronic atmospheric effects....
quote:
PS: by the way.. this score fits perfectly to a matrix movie!!!Uhh... maybe that's cause it IS a Matrix movie?? (Sorry - it just seems like an obvious comment..... why would people be DOUBTING that the score would fit the film?)
Dan
posted 05-05-2003 03:11 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Uhh... maybe that's cause it IS a Matrix movie?? (Sorry - it just seems like an obvious comment..... why would people be DOUBTING that the score would fit the film?)
Dan, lay off the guy. He's new, it's his first post, and you're sure as heck not makin' a good first impression. Don't be so critical towards people and what they have to say. You could've simply affirmed his statement with a "Yeah, Don Davis did a fantastic job yet again!" or something. Instead, you come across like an ass and probably have DVDRick regretting he even made the comment.

I'm not trying to suppress free speech or tell you what to do, I just think there are better, more positive ways to go about saying certain things. Unless you intend to come across the way you do, which could very well be the case.
DVDRick, Dan's attitude toward your post does not accurately reflect the way the rest of us feel. Glad to have you here, hope you enjoy the board and the cool discussions that transpire.

Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 05-05-2003]
posted 05-05-2003 04:06 PM PT (US) 
Dinko

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
why would people be DOUBTING that the score would fit the film?)In this particular case, I don't know.
In general: because we're afraid of Lucasfilm-type editing like what happens to Williams' Star Wars scores.
posted 05-05-2003 04:15 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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Jeron, I wasn't being critical towards him, and unlike you, I don't tend to click on everyone's profile to see how new they are, and therefore treat them with special reverance.And of COURSE you're not telling me what to do, but golly - you sure make it a habit to pop in and reply to my posts to bitch about how someone MIGHT take my comments! Why don't you let DVDRick respond, and if he took offense to my harmless comment, then let ME deal with it.
If you have a problem with me, IM or email me. You DO know how to do that, right? No need to drag it into a thread, as you've been doing lately.
DVDRick - I was just commenting on how it's a score for a MATRIX movie, therefore of course it's gonna fit perfectly!
Now back on topic, please.
Dan[Message edited by dgoldwas on 05-05-2003]
posted 05-05-2003 04:16 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
If you have a problem with me, IM or email me. You DO know how to do that, right? No need to drag it into a thread, as you've been doing lately.I haven't been dragging anything into threads, especially as of late - not sure what you're talking about there. No reason to get snippy, it just rubbed me the wrong way, as I know things oft times do with you when people 'fail' to use the search engine. You don't hesitate to take that up with them pubically, I might add. But thanks for clarifying your intentions and re-aligning your 'tone'. Makes for a much better, more positive communal exchange, and that's basis of these forums.
Everyone, everything's cool, nothing to see here, move right along!
Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 05-05-2003]
posted 05-05-2003 04:50 PM PT (US) 
rkeaveney

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Don't forget there are two versions of THE MATRIX RELOADED OSTs - a "clean" version and the regular version.Ryan
posted 05-05-2003 04:55 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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So there might be explicit lyrics on, dare I say it, the score cd??Hmmmmm...
posted 05-05-2003 04:57 PM PT (US) 
Kevin
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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
I wasn't being critical towards him,Nah, you're just usually critical to everyone.
posted 05-05-2003 05:28 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
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What a jovial thread this is.
posted 05-05-2003 06:09 PM PT (US) 
rkeaveney

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Of course there's swearing on the score CD.Like the guy said, you can clearly hear Don Davis exclaim "**** you" at the orchestra after it took 15 takes to get that cue right.
Ryan
posted 05-05-2003 06:15 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by rkeaveney:
Of course there's swearing on the score CD.Like the guy said, you can clearly hear Don Davis exclaim "**** you" at the orchestra after it took 15 takes to get that cue right.
Ryan
That's damn funny...
posted 05-05-2003 06:36 PM PT (US) 
Dinko

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quote:
Originally posted by rkeaveney:
Like the guy said, you can clearly hear Don Davis exclaim "**** you" at the orchestra after it took 15 takes to get that cue right.Ryan
Why? Did he record in Prague?

posted 05-05-2003 07:09 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Kevin:
Nah, you're just usually critical to everyone.And I'm sure you haven't been critical, right?

Leave it to Kevin to make me laugh my ass off!
Dan
posted 05-05-2003 08:08 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
You don't hesitate to take that up with them pubically, I might add.Well.... I take it up with them publically, but it's never in a "you're being an ass" kind of way, as you did here. (People think I'm an ass for suggesting the search engine in the first place, but hey - not my fault they can't figure out this site!)
Thanks for being the hall monitor!

Dan
posted 05-05-2003 08:14 PM PT (US) 
DVDRick

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What did I started here???

I dont feel personally attacked by anybody, so guys calm down
..
I´m sure you all have a better knowledge of "scores" than me, so excuse me my little description of this score.So nobody except dgoldwas checked it yet? hmm
dgoldwas, for me it really sounds like a f/y, but just distorted.
DVDRick
posted 05-05-2003 10:31 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by DVDRick:
What did I started here???

Don't worry, you didn't start anything. Jeron just overreacted in his well-intentioned way.
quote:
dgoldwas, for me it really sounds like a f/y, but just distorted.Please, call me Dan.

Well, if it's a f/y, I can't hear it. But, I'll ask Don Davis if he knows anything about it!
Dan
posted 05-05-2003 11:02 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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That would be a "nope".It's two electronic "swells" that I suppose might kinda sound like "f-you" if you remove everything that would make it sound like words, leaving only the bass end, then digitally distort it to push it down into a lower register, and play with it some more.
But, they didn't do that - it's just two low-end electronic "throbs".
Dan
posted 05-06-2003 08:09 AM PT (US) 
TimT

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quote:
Originally posted by rkeaveney:
[b]Don't forget there are two versions of THE MATRIX RELOADED OSTs - a "clean" version and the regular version.Ryan
Actually I have the Clean Version, and the word "bitch" is loud and clear. And while Sh** and Fu**ing,is studdered in "Are you Motha Fu**ing Ready for the New Sh**" Its still quite clear enough to turn some heads in my house.
So its quite possible that he heard such a phrase.[Message edited by TimT on 05-06-2003]
posted 05-06-2003 06:29 PM PT (US) 
Hornerfan

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"Mona Lisa Overdrive" reminds me so much of EVENT HORIZON by Michael Kamen and Orbital. Not that this is a bad thing, mind you; I think EVENT HORIZON is a neat score. Certainly, THE MATRIX RELOADED is a fun listen as well. Just thought I'd point that out.Mike
NP: THE MATRIX RELOADED
posted 05-06-2003 09:20 PM PT (US) 
Norman McCay

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Is it just me or did Maverick "stretch out" this 2-disc album? A total of just 89 or so minutes, it hardly needs a second disc (perhaps if they eliminated the 2 or 3 tracks that are NOT even in the movie), they could've crammed it all onto one. Not I am complaining, seeing how they did cram a bunch of promotional stuff onto the second disc, both for the low price of $11.99 (when was the last time anyone got both the soundtrack AND the score for that price?).As for the music itself, I was pleasantly surpised to hear the the first disc was not as bad I thought it would, maybe with the exception of the Rage Against The Machine track, which I thought was pretty annoying. Linkin Park's "Session" track was a very nice instrumental intro. And speaking of instrumentals, was anyone else surprised at that there are actually MORE instrumental tracks than previously assumed?
As for the second disc, I can't say it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but Don Davis proved me wrong (as I didn't like his texture-laden score for The Matrix too much) in that his Reloaded Suite is pretty "sweet" indeed. The Mona Lisa Overdrive is a bit of a letdown, as I thought it would be an over-the-top mind-blowing explosive epic action cue but it was pretty mundane stuff. I know that's a pretty outrageous expectation, but for some reason I tended to think the Suite made up for it, and that the Juno Reactor vs. Don Davis track actually resembled more of the kind of action rhythms/choral elements that I had expected from Mona Lisa Overdrive. I have to say that this disc is a bit lacking in terms of the orchestral music. Clocking in at just 40 or so minutes, much of Davis' score was accompanied by techno-driven beats, and thus it was a bit difficult to hear the strings at work sometimes.
One last thing, does anyone think that all of the Rob Dougan tracks pretty much have the same sampling source (including Clubbed To Death)?
posted 05-06-2003 09:27 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Norman McCay:
Clocking in at just 40 or so minutes, much of Davis' score was accompanied by techno-driven beats, and thus it was a bit difficult to hear the strings at work sometimes.Interestingly enough, one of the tracks on the promo is the orchestra-only source for "Burly Brawl", and it includes some of the most impressive string/brass work I've heard in a long time.
Dan
posted 05-06-2003 09:39 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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quote:
Originally posted by Hornerfan:
"Mona Lisa Overdrive" reminds me so much of EVENT HORIZON by Michael Kamen and Orbital. Not that this is a bad thing, mind you; I think EVENT HORIZON is a neat score. Certainly, THE MATRIX RELOADED is a fun listen as well. Just thought I'd point that out.Mike
NP: THE MATRIX RELOADED
Dude! I've always felt that The Matrix had many bits from Event Horizon. You're the first person to say that besides me.
posted 05-06-2003 09:47 PM PT (US) 
Rich Douglas

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Just picked this up earlier today and really liked what I heard. The electronics in Mona Lisa Overdrive are very smooth and also very different than electronics that we usually hear in film scores I think. Overall, it was most definately worth the $11.99 I paid for it! As much as I like Rob D's stuff, his instrumentals do all sound alike, like extensions of Clubbed to Death, still though, the furious angels instrumental is a cool listen. For those of you who have yet to get it, do it, it's a good solid release.Rich
posted 05-07-2003 12:27 PM PT (US) 
HadrianD

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I expected ALOT from the 2disc set. And because of such high expectations, i was a let down by what i heard. The songs wasn't as edgy as the original album. Don Davis's stuff was an improvement/evolution over the original. There's more beats to the score, and the Suite at the end was lacking cause it featured more slower moments than I had wanted. I'm more cautious about going into the movie this Friday now....An OKAY album overall, but a GREAT! ALBUM! for the 12.99 that I paid (tax included and all) for it.
posted 05-07-2003 01:07 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
