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    Topic:   Goldsmith's 3 best scores

     workaluk
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    Since there are some discussion about the last work of Jerry Goldsmith,i think it's interesting we do some kind of poll,to see if the best scores were the old ones,or the recent ones..................


    For me the 3 best scores of Goldsmith are:

    1-The Omen:This was his only Oscar,and the music really set the standarts for terror scores to come,AVE SATANI was a moment of trully inspiration by Goldsmith.


    2-Total Recall:Again Goldsmith shows the way to action fiction movies with this fast paced score,and that marvellous track A NEW LIFE.....

    3-Rambo III:A beautiful Afheganistan theme,a spectacular action score (The Game is one of his best action cues)and for me who lived in those parts that theme really catches the suffering of the Mujahedin at the hands of the Russians.....


    YOUR THOUGHTS PLEASE....

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    posted 04-22-2003 11:55 AM PT (US)     

     Erik Woods
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    I pick...

    - THE FINAL CONFLICT
    - STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE
    - THE BLUE MAX

    -Erik-

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    posted 04-22-2003 12:20 PM PT (US)     

     Bulldog
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    It's rare that my favorite Goldsmith score/scores is/are not whatever work/works of his I've just heard.


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    posted 04-22-2003 01:18 PM PT (US)     

     JoeInSanDiego
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    Alien, Poltergeist and Star Trek - TMP
    Although goodness knows there are many MANY others of the same calibre pushing the top three threshhold!

    NP - Warlock (Goldsmith)

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    posted 04-22-2003 01:28 PM PT (US)     

     plindboe
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    Mine are the following 3 masterpieces:

    Masada(1981)
    One of the best TV scores ever.

    The final conflict(1981)
    Awe-inspiring and immense.

    Under fire(1983)
    Cheesy, but extraordinary.

    Peter

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    posted 04-22-2003 01:57 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    I can't narrow it down to three... but, I will mention The Omen, Star Trek: TMP, and Rudy. Then again... First Knight, A Patch of Blue, and The Great Train Robbery are fantastic... then again... Islands in the Stream, Cassandra Crossing, and Basic Instinct... AHHHH! I can't narrow it down!

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    posted 04-22-2003 02:02 PM PT (US)     

     Indysolo
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    Star Trek - The Motion Picture
    Total Recall

    I'm undecided on the third one.

    Neil

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    posted 04-22-2003 02:31 PM PT (US)     

     BobaMike
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    Mr Baseball!

    Angie!


    Link!



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    posted 04-22-2003 02:38 PM PT (US)     

     franz_conrad
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    If I had the rest of my life to contemplate 3 Goldsmith scores, I would contemplate:
    (i) Star Trek: The Motion Picture
    (ii) A CD-R with bits of Mulan, Boys from Brazil, Total Recall, Powder, Star Trek V, Omen, Patton and 13th Warrior! (let all men call that a cop-out)
    and
    (iii) Star Trek: Nemesis (shock! horror!)

    On that last one, I'm a sucker for lovely minimalism, and Goldsmith's 5-note motif for the Romulans (although I think it's for the general motif of individuals and their clones/brothers) meets the criteria beautifully.

    NP Pan Tadeusz (Kilar)

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    posted 04-22-2003 02:58 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    It goes like this, people...

    1. A PATCH OF BLUE - Despite all of Jerry's epic adventures, rollicking action and sweeping strings, my favorite Goldsmith is (and probably always will be) this quiet, small-scale, intimate drama. Its passive beauty and simple emotional purity make this life-changing music for anyone who connects with it.

    2. LEGEND - This is as good as fantasy gets. One of Jerry's most varied and eclectic scores. At times dark and terrifying, whimsical, beautiful, and for every second magical, this is another no-brainer.

    3. Here's where it got tricky for me. The first two were extremely simple, but I just can't come up with a thrid choice. The aforementioned Star Trek: the Motion Picture and The Omen are definitely top contenders, but I'd also have to wrestle with Planet of the Apes and The Wind and the Lion.

    In any event, it's obviously quite hard to nail three choices out of such an enormous body of work, but at least I'm firmly decided on my first two.

    Kirk
    NP - Tyvek Wood (Bruce Broughton)

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    posted 04-22-2003 03:12 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    quote:
    Originally posted by James:
    NP - Tyvek Wood (Bruce Broughton)

    Hmmmmmm....

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    posted 04-22-2003 03:25 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Indysolo:
    Star Trek - The Motion Picture
    Total Recall

    I'm undecided on the third one.


    The Final Conflict

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    posted 04-22-2003 03:48 PM PT (US)     

     Indysolo
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    The Final Conflict

    I was thinking of Damien - Omen II but I'm just not sure. Maybe Supergirl. I can't decide.

    Neil

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    posted 04-22-2003 09:25 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    The Blue Max
    Islands in the Stream
    Star Trek-TMP

    This leaves out quite a lot of near equally great stuff.

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    posted 04-22-2003 09:29 PM PT (US)     

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    Here are my top three, in no particular order either:
    Rudy
    Planet of the Apes
    Star Trek

    Thanks,
    Chris

    NP: Chicken Run

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    posted 04-23-2003 08:25 AM PT (US)     

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    In no particular order :

    THE FINAL CONFLICT : Although Jerry won for 'The Omen', it's nowhere near as good as this one.

    STAR TREK TMP : You can hear how much hard work went into this, even minimalistic music for the cloud is wonderful stuff.

    ALIEN : A horror movie in space, and still Jerry manages to write great music.
    Just listen to the music when they get out of hypersleep at the beginning of the movie.

    Funny how these are all between 1979 and 1981, and imagine he also wrote 'The Great Train Robbery', 'Raggedy Man' and 'Masada' during the same period.


    NP. Children Of Dune (Tyler)

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    posted 04-23-2003 09:41 AM PT (US)     

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    A Patch of Blue
    Wind and the Lion
    and I think Ghost and the Darkness

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    posted 04-23-2003 10:15 AM PT (US)     

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    Well it seems to me that the 70's and 80's were the best for Jerry Goldsmith

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    posted 04-23-2003 11:44 AM PT (US)     

     jonathan_little
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    These are my favorite Goldsmith albums:

    Wind and the Lion
    Masada
    100 Rifles

    and QB VII and Rambo II and ...

    [Message edited by jonathan_little on 04-23-2003]

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    posted 04-23-2003 12:41 PM PT (US)     

     SPQR
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    Today:

    Planet of the Apes
    Chinatown
    ST: TMP

    Tomorrow:

    The Blue Max
    Alien
    Under Fire

    Next Week:

    (you get the picture)

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    posted 04-23-2003 03:19 PM PT (US)     

     Christopher Field
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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by plindboe:
    Under fire(1983)
    Cheesy, but extraordinary.
    QUOTE]

    Cheesy?

    My votes:

    The Final Conflict
    Legend
    Under Fire

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    posted 04-23-2003 06:13 PM PT (US)     

     Dylan
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    There are tons of Goldsmith scores that I haven't heard yet outside of main titles/themes, but I have still heard an immense amount of his work. I tend to prefer the more subtle scores. My three favorites:

    1. A Patch of Blue
    2. Seconds
    3. Alien
    ...then Magic and Morituri (if I could squeeze)

    The following list are three I believe are probably his greatest...a very rough list that's bound to change many times in the future, though I believe I'll always consider my favorite by him, "A Patch of Blue," also his greatest:

    1. A Patch of Blue
    2. Legend
    3. Poltergeist

    Dylan

    NP: The 400 Blows (Jean Constantine)

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    posted 04-23-2003 07:55 PM PT (US)     

     John Zimmer
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    Hmmm, well let's see here.

    Star Trek: The Motion Picture
    The Wind and The Lion
    Patton

    Jz

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    posted 04-24-2003 04:41 AM PT (US)     

     soundtrackman
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    Great topic, tough choice.

    If by "best" you mean scores that made the strongest contribution to the films they were composed for - scores that were great creatively, musically as well as essential to their respective films - on other words, three scores that SHOULD have won Goldsmith Oscars;

    (1) Planet of the Apes - groundbreaking, brilliantly effective music
    (2) Alien - can you imagine the film with any other music? (well, besides "Freud")
    (3) Patton - in one amazing musical stroke, Goldsmith captured the grand, complex character of George Patton. The movie took hours, Goldsmith did it in the Main Title. A perfect example of where - and where NOT - to use music in a movie.

    If you mean scores I personally like the best, I'd have to say, for no reason other than personal preference;
    (1) Legend
    (2) Hour of the Gun
    (3) The Illustrated Man

    Mark T.

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    posted 04-24-2003 09:32 AM PT (US)     

     Jeff C.
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    The Omen
    Mulan
    Poltergeist

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    posted 04-24-2003 12:20 PM PT (US)     

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    THE BLUE MAX

    THE WIND AND THE LION

    STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE

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    posted 04-24-2003 01:19 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Christopher Field:

    Originally posted by plindboe:
    Under fire(1983)
    Cheesy, but extraordinary.

    Cheesy?


    Yes, cheesy. The electronic element makes it cheesy. In the 80s the electronic element weren't as integrated with the rest of the music, as it is possible to do so today, and are quite obvious to spot. I think when many see the word cheesy, they think amateurish and bad, but I do not consider it a bad thing, and I consider this score one of the greatest masterpieces in film music history.

    Peter

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    posted 04-24-2003 03:04 PM PT (US)     

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    About Underfire,i must agree with you Peter,it's a magnificent main theme,and an excellent soundtrack......

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    posted 04-24-2003 03:32 PM PT (US)     

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    That question's impossible for me. Off the top of my head there are about ten or twelve Goldsmith scores which I think are absolutely 5-star flawless, and about another twenty which are nearly there. But three of these are -

    THE BLUE MAX

    PAPILLON

    POLTERGEIST

    And the other ones which are equally as good.

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    posted 04-25-2003 03:31 PM PT (US)     

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    I meant PLANET OF THE APES instead of... you see?

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    posted 04-25-2003 03:32 PM PT (US)     

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    I just discovered the music from The Blue Max. It's some of the best stuff I've ver heard. I've been listening to it almost everyday more than once a day for the last two weeks.

    NP. The Blue Max Suite (the Maestro)

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    posted 04-25-2003 06:33 PM PT (US)     

     SCimmerian
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    1.STAR TREK 2.THE WIND AND THE LION 3.FIRST KNIGHT

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    posted 04-27-2003 12:01 AM PT (US)     

     SCimmerian
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    NOPE ITS THE BLUE MAX ALL THE WAY.

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    posted 04-27-2003 12:03 AM PT (US)     

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    Well,it seems almost everybody agrees that The Blue Max is one of the best by Goldsmith,i must buy it,since i don't know the music,maybe i agree with you as well.....


    NP:1990-Reprise-1999 (Vangelis)

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    posted 04-27-2003 03:30 AM PT (US)     

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    It's some of the best I've heard. Get it!

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    posted 04-27-2003 11:21 AM PT (US)     

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    No! Not three!! At least give me a top ten to work with!!! This is cruel and unusual punishment and I think this thread is unconstitutional.

    You can draw my top three from this pool...
    Alien
    The Blue Max
    Chinatown
    The Final Conflict
    Freud
    Legend
    Planet of the Apes
    The Secret of N.I.M.H.
    Star Trek: The Motion Picture
    Total Recall
    The Wind and the Lion

    ...but I could assemble a multi-CD set consisting of music not from these opuses that I think represents the best of what Goldsmith can accomplish... "Hot Water" from Outland, "Bitter Coffee" from The Edge, that sort of thing.

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    posted 04-29-2003 05:00 PM PT (US)     

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    I recently discovered The Secret of NIMH. Beautiful

    NP. Haydn Trumpet Concerto in E Flat Major
    Wynton Marsalis, trumpet
    The Boston Pops Orchestra
    John Williams

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