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Camillu Oscar® Winner	Being a product of 1981, the vast majority of scores in my collection are from films released after Jaws. However today I came across a copy of John Barry's 'The Lion in Winter' for around $5 and got it not having any idea what it would sound like, or what the film was about for that matter. I like it. I like it a lot. This is great choral stuff. Very impressive score which I recommend to all. Reminds me a lot of Howard Shore's Looking for Richard. (p.s. I got the original recording, not the Nic Raine re-recording, which apparently has 2 extra tracks but is roughly the same reagrding sound quality)
posted 04-22-2003 10:36 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Mark, Nic Raine's re-recording is absolutely worth having, especially if you enjoy the original. Definitely consider picking it up at some point. The Last Valley and Robin and Marian are wonderful, too! (all being in that same series of Barry re-recordings Silva did) Jeron PS. I'm a product of 1981 as well! Not a good excuse for missing out on classic film scores! [Message edited by Jeron on 04-22-2003]
posted 04-22-2003 10:43 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: I'm a product of 1981 as well! Not a good excuse for missing out on classic film scores! Well darn, there went my excuse --Brian NP: American Journey
posted 04-22-2003 11:12 AM PT (US)

TV's Frank Oscar® Winner	PLEASANTLY suprised?! LION IN WINTER is an awesome Barry score! I remember when I first bought the album when it was released on CD by CBS Records around 1995 and I was blown away by its power and majesty. The Raine re-recording is decent, but doesn't get the main title right. It's that low bass line that's missing! In 1995, I didn't have the most extensive Barry collection, but this score plus THE KNACK showed me more of his range and I became an insatiable Barry collector afterwards...
posted 04-22-2003 11:24 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by TV's Frank: The Raine re-recording is decent, but doesn't get the main title right. It's that low bass line that's missing! Yeah, that's true. It's still wonderful re-creation, I think.
posted 04-22-2003 11:26 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	Both Lion and Winter (Legacy version) and The Last Valley (Silva re-recording) are wishy-washy albums for me. Both scores have cues I love (such as the Main Titles) but they both also have these lulls on the albums that make me turn them off. I can only take so much of "ooooh oh ooooh oh laaa laaa" and lyrics that I can't understand. The Last Valley is probably the better of the two. Silva's album sounds quite good, especially considering that the choral parts were recorded a month after the orchestra in a different recording studio and by a different sound engineer. Like Jeron said, Robin and Marian is great. I highly recommend picking that one up. There's no darn chorus in it, either. I guess I'm the fourth product of 1981 in this thread. However, everybody knows I only buy and listen to scores written after 1980. [Message edited by jonathan_little on 04-22-2003]
posted 04-22-2003 11:38 AM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	I picked up The Lion In Winter about 1975 and HATED it But then at around this time I also had Planet Of The Apes and HATED that also! But then my taste was Jaws, Bond, Morricone etc, I was 14, how age and taste change over the years?! The Lion In Winter eventually became one of my very favourite scores, I really wish Barry had had more opportunities to score choral music Chinon/Eleanor's Arrival is one of the most beautiful tracks ever written for film. p.s. that 'bass' sound in the main titles is made by synthesizer! NP : Taras Bulba - Waxman
posted 04-22-2003 03:58 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Oscar® Nominee	Here's a product of 1980, and about 90% of my collection is post 1989! (Batman and The Hunt for Red October stirred the latent film score lover within.) Slowly I work to correct the asymmetry, and unfortunately neither The Lion in Winter, The Last Valley or Robin and Marian have found a way into my collection yet. NP The Beyondness of Things (Barry)
posted 04-22-2003 04:21 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by franz_conrad: Slowly I work to correct the asymmetry, and unfortunately neither The Lion in Winter, The Last Valley or Robin and Marian have found a way into my collection yet. Sounds like a great place to start correcting that asymmetry...
posted 04-22-2003 04:24 PM PT (US)

TV's Frank Oscar® Winner	Raine's recording of THE LAST VALLEY I found quite impressive, but I also have an affinity for all of Barry's choral work, every bit. In watching the film recently on DVD, Raine fleshed it out much more and the cues developed more fluidly than they seem to in the film itself. There are some truly gorgeous moments in TLV, rivaling WALKABOUT and LION/WINTER.
posted 04-22-2003 04:39 PM PT (US)

perfpitch Oscar® Winner	Camillu and Jeron, unless each of you was born in the last three months of 1981, you're more correctly products of the calendar year 1980 (just ask your parents)... [Message edited by perfpitch on 04-22-2003]
posted 04-22-2003 05:43 PM PT (US)

Camillu Oscar® Winner	Lol. Well ok granted. I'm the fruit of a fruity evening around March 1980. In fact I probably heard my first film score sometime in 1980 while my parents were sitting in the cinema Jeron - I know it's not an excuse, in fact I've recently been trying to get more classic scores. It's just that a score means much more to me once I've seen the film, and it's much easier to see recent films nowadays (due to availability and the tastes of the people you watch films with).
posted 04-23-2003 06:47 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Camillu: Jeron - I know it's not an excuse, in fact I've recently been trying to get more classic scores. It's just that a score means much more to me once I've seen the film, and it's much easier to see recent films nowadays (due to availability and the tastes of the people you watch films with). A much more satisfactory explanation... You shall live.
posted 04-23-2003 11:01 AM PT (US)

Camillu Oscar® Winner	phew!
posted 04-23-2003 11:23 AM PT (US)

justin boggan Oscar® Winner	I couldn't stand the movie, but it was a hell of a main title by Barry. With the exception of the recent "Signs" movie scores these days don't have what they used to. Is the rest of the score as good? ---------- http://hometown.aol.com/tharpdevenport/myhomepage/business.html
posted 04-24-2003 02:55 PM PT (US)

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