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Topic: Lost in Cyberspace? (BruceBroughton.com?)

Crono/Kyp

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Hey yall,I was listening to a little "Lost in Space" action the other day, and in light of Al and Jer's suggestion (in another thread), associating his light hearted writing w/ Calvin and Hobbes, I thought about looking at Broughton's website again. Man, there's just not much there. As if I should be shocked, it's kinda been that way for a few years. I'm getting started (again) with web design myself (coming soon), and while I don't think I'll be doing any composer websites, it got me thinking about what might improve Bruce Broughton's site. I have a few ideas of my own, but I wanted to ask the moviemusic people and see what their input might be. Broughtons a great composer, one of my personal favorites (thank you Lost in Space!). Hes someone who I think needs better exposure for his music. He deserves a better site! What would make it better? I personally would like to see more sound clips, a good biography, stuff on his concert work, Any thoughts on this?
--The Brian
posted 04-20-2003 11:38 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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Brian, you know Jeron is working on redesigning his site, so feel free to toss any ideas his way.Dan
posted 04-20-2003 11:39 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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2 heads are better than 1...and 758 heads are better then 2.
--The Brian
posted 04-20-2003 11:43 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
2 heads are better than 1...and 758 heads are better then 2.
...and websites by committee tend not to work.
Shouldn't Jeron have been the one to ask for suggestions on the site he is building? (Or are you still speaking for him?)

Dan
[Message edited by dgoldwas on 04-20-2003]
posted 04-20-2003 11:44 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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I have my own brain thank you very much.And what's wrong with getting ideas from the "masses" pool? The more ideas, the better someone can pick the better ones and use them.
Back on topic.

--The Brian
[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 04-20-2003]
posted 04-20-2003 11:49 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
I have my own brain thank you very much.I never said you didn't.
quote:
Back on topic.Right. I think Broughton's site should have rare audio clips, video footage, his own personal thoughts on his projects, and examples of sheet music. Kinda like Ottman's site.
Dan
posted 04-20-2003 11:56 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Hi guys. Cool idea, Brian! Dan, it's cool - Brian's post is harmless. If anything, it has the potential to be a big help to me. This doesn't sound like a website by committee from where I'm standing... I mean, Bruce Broughton has written a lot that movie music fans hold in high esteem. It's a cool idea to see what others think. I've got a few neat things planned, but I don't wanna limit the breadth and/or scope of this site to my own ideas. That'd be pretty narrow!Thanks Brian!
Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 04-21-2003]
posted 04-20-2003 11:59 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Right. I think Broughton's site should have rare audio clips, video footage, his own personal thoughts on his projects, and examples of sheet music. Kinda like Ottman's site.That's a good start, albeit pretty standard. Thanks! Ottman's site is a fantastic example of a content-rich resource. I really value input from guys like you, Ryan, Chris Coleman, etc. Though equally important are ideas from fans displaced from the web design scene.
Again, cool idea Brian. Thanks!
Jeron
posted 04-21-2003 12:12 AM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
That's a good start, albeit pretty standard.Actually Jeron, it's far from "standard" to have the composer as involved in discussing each project they've done on their website as Ottman has done.
Dan
posted 04-21-2003 12:35 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Actually Jeron, it's far from "standard" to have the composer as involved in discussing each project they've done on their website as Ottman has done.Well, I guess I meant those were suggestions I could've expected from you. Standard 'Dan' ideas (the ones you listed)! Which are good, just not anything I'm not already enriched by!
Far be it from me to classify the Ottman site on a pedastal less than it is worthy of sitting on.
Also, John Ottman and Bruce Broughton are pretty different people. John's enthusiasm to share his experiences with the world (good and bad!) is pretty darn unique in unto itself. I'm willing to bet there aren't TOO many composers out there who would be willing to do that.
It's great that John likes to do that, as it does add an edge to his site. But as you've already demonstrated, you don't need me to tell you that!

Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 04-21-2003]
posted 04-21-2003 03:23 AM PT (US) 
John Zimmer

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Well I'm not web designer guy but I would suggest a new background. Just blue doesn't do it credit.
Jz
posted 04-21-2003 05:01 AM PT (US) 
SBD
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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Brian, you know Jeron is working on redesigning his site, so feel free to toss any ideas his way.Dan
New design? About friggin' time!
Ideas...
- interviews (old and new)
- sound clips (not just of his CDs, but more rare stuff like music from STAY TUNED, his theme from "Dinosaurs" - anyone else remember that show?)
- filmographyposted 04-21-2003 05:21 AM PT (US) 
Kevin
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One can always take suggestions from a variety of of individuals. It's not "designing by committee." Only people that are insecure would demand that they alone can think up the content of a site, without opinions from others. Makes for a boring existence.posted 04-21-2003 05:53 AM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
Well, I guess I meant those were suggestions I could've expected from you. Standard 'Dan' ideas (the ones you listed)! Which are good, just not anything I'm not already enriched by!
Righto. Well, nice to know I enriched you somehow. (I also like your kindly-worded way of basically saying my opinion was not necessary.) I look forward to the end result in the next few months (or whenever it finally wraps up).
(And Kevin, please. I didn't say suggestions wouldn't be appropriate - but YOU try to design a website by committee, and tell me how it works out for ya.)
Dan
[Message edited by dgoldwas on 04-21-2003]
posted 04-21-2003 07:52 AM PT (US) 
Al

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Aha! An outdated website! So that's why he's not getting much work!
posted 04-21-2003 10:11 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
(And Kevin, please. I didn't say suggestions wouldn't be appropriate - but YOU try to design a website by committee, and tell me how it works out for ya.)Again, this isn't design by committee. Snap outta that, dude. None of this is making my job any more difficult. Like I said, it's good to hear others' thoughts.
And Alex: LOL, if that's the reason, and I have the ability to help, you better believe I will. I do truly think a good website is a powerful promotional tool and can be quite helpful if executed and utilized properly.
Jeron
posted 04-21-2003 12:06 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
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No, we all know the reason why Bruce gets no work is because he doesn't release enough promotional materials.
posted 04-21-2003 12:38 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
Again, this isn't design by committee.I never said this one was. My comment was a general one regarding the idea that 758 people making decisions tend not to work.
quote:
None of this is making my job any more difficult.No, I'm sure it's difficult enough without any of this.

Dan
[Message edited by dgoldwas on 04-21-2003]
posted 04-21-2003 01:03 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

What a beautiful thread about movie music.The MM is a website/store created by (a very large) committee. Sure, maybe only one or two people implemented the thing, but lots of suggestions from lots of people went into it. Mr goldwas, even you gave some praising comments about this site in the summer of 2000.... suggesting the catalog sucked completely. And now look.
I assume soundtracknet was not designed by committee, due to some fairly obvious reasons.
That said, which website sucks the most these days, moviemusic.com or soundtrack.net.com?

That is a rhetorical joke, for those who might have problems with it.
Sorry, Bri Guy, I don't have "eny" suggestions right now for the BB site.... other than the site include a form on there where we as fanboys can fill out our name and address and get his promos for free. I think most people would like to see that.
posted 04-21-2003 05:09 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
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This site would suck much less if I could buy panties with the MOVIEMUSIC DOT COM logo on them...
posted 04-21-2003 05:15 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
Mr goldwas, even you gave some praising comments about this site in the summer of 2000.... suggesting the catalog sucked completely.Ah Peter. You're too stuck up to even write my name. Typical.
I challenge you to find my post where I said the catalog sucked "completely". Back then (since you LOVE digging up old dead and buried issues that you clearly never got over), I expressed my surprise at many of the soundtracks MISSING from your catalog.
But enough of that.
SoundtrackNet was not designed "by committee". It was designed by David Koran, so anything you have to say about the design of the site can be taken up with him - not me.
Moviemusic.com is a nice little store and message board community. I have no issues with it; if I did, I wouldn't bother to come here. SoundtrackNet is neither a store nor a message board. To compare the two would be like comparing apples and oranges.
If you have a problem with the thread not really being about "movie music" feel free to move it to another forum. Last I checked, you were still the moderator.
Dan
posted 04-21-2003 05:21 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Hi Dan! Dork!
posted 04-21-2003 05:54 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
Hi Dan! Dork!Yeah, that's mature.

I'm amazed anyone trusts you with a credit card.
Dan
[Message edited by dgoldwas on 04-21-2003]
posted 04-21-2003 06:12 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Dan, I can't tell... do you have security problems, or insecurity problems?Quit sounding like a Ford Thaxton again, please. There are plenty of people with genuine trust, and I am glad of it.
posted 04-21-2003 06:27 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Maybe someone's MM panties are in a bunch. JL, would you know anything about that?
posted 04-21-2003 06:30 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
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I think it's just that time of the month...
posted 04-21-2003 06:34 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

OscarŪ Winner

quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
Quit sounding like a Ford Thaxton again, please.Ahhh - there it is. You still haven't gotten over that whole thing with Ford, eh? Talk about insecurity issues!
How about this - I leave you alone, and you leave me alone. And everyone can be happy without you acting like a weird cross between a 2nd grade teacher, and a 2nd grader.
Dan
posted 04-21-2003 09:08 PM PT (US) 
Al

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quote:
Originally posted by jonathanlittle: I think it's just that time of the month...All the more reason to invest in a new pair.

[Message edited by Al on 04-21-2003]
posted 04-21-2003 09:10 PM PT (US) 
Joey168943
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I looked through the catalog the other day and couldn't find what I was looking for either. I want the Vans Warped Tour 2002 compilation CD because it has a NOFX song I never heard before and there are a whole bunch of other cool bands that I've never heard or gotten to see. I saw the Warped Tour in Ventura last year and it was the best ****ing day of the summer. I bought a ticket from this stoner by the railroad crossing for $15. That ticket would have cost $30. It was so cool. I saw Alkaline Trio when I got there but they were almost over and then I went to this small stage where these kinda dorky stuck up punks were waiting to see Death by Stereo and so they were talking crap about Midtown who were just finishing up. Death by Stereo was kinda cool but they just scream most of the time. This dorky kid in a dress shirt and tie got punched in the nose and bleed all over everywhere but he still was having fun. Later on I saw a bunch of other way cool bands by the main stage. But I also saw the vert ramp and the skaters. I missed some of the motocross jumping but I dug the dude who was jumping with no shirt and just a bunch of tattoos. He rocked. I smoked a bunch of week with the weird dude and his hot girlfriend. I tried to get her to dump him but she wanted to sit on his shoulders during Newfound Glory. Whatever. The best thing for sure though was NOFX! They ****ing rule! It was getting dark when Bad Religion played but it was still way cool. I thought the show would go all night but it was over at like 8 o'clock (cuz there were no night lights) so I had to wait like an hour for a ride to come get me. I hope there are some cooler bands this year. AFI is playing but i don't think they are when I get to see them (july 8). My friend is going to sneak in a whole bunch of weed iif he can get it. I heard most of the good pot is going to the soldiers in Iraq. I didn't really believe it at first. The guy that told me is kind of a dork. But i saw that apocalipse now movie on cable and those dudes were smoking tons of weed and dropping acid so i guess it could be true. That would be weird though wouldn't it? You might not react very fast if you had to shoot your gun right? I don't know, that might not be true about the weed in Iraq. Well, i hope moviemusic com gets the warped CD in. I'll buy it for sure. Keep up the good work!Joey
posted 04-22-2003 10:52 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Wow...
posted 04-22-2003 11:06 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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LOL Joey!!See, that's what I mean when I say I come here to get a laugh.
Dan
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