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Alexborn007

Romulan

Something that happens to me often (usually when meeting new people) is they will ask what type of music I like. Now, I am sometimes off set by the question as I rarely have a 100% coherent answer. For safety, I just say "pretty much everything". In actuality, I would really want to say "Soundtracks and Film Scores almost exclusively". Why don't I? The shallow and moronic part thinks such answers would be met with critiquing and joking. The other is just not in the mood to explain how "I enjoy any kind of film score. One of my favorite composers is James Horner, even if he is repetitive...its not like Silvestri." (or some statement of the sort) I think it would be met with total confusion and its tricky enough to lay down just what soundtracks are (to those who are unfamiliar and think its a waste of $$$). Worst of all, in High School, no one is responsive to anything off of the charts (Which makes my tastes all the more bizarre to them).Its hard also because many people who I do say this to just respond with "But you can hear the music in the movie." To this I will usually be on to asking the same question of them. Anyway, when people ask you specifically what types of music you like, what do you say? And, (more importantly) how do they respond?
posted 03-16-2003 08:40 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

Romulan

Alex, as you get older, the responses you get from people will become more receptive and mature. I'm 21 years old, and yeah, I know exactly how you feel. Back in high school I always felt funny talking about my preferences in music. But the side of me that said, "this is me" always won over, and well, the response was what you'd expect. A lot of folks just didn't understand why! Ah well.When a person asks me what kind of music I listen to, I respond in that I was raised on classical music (the truth!), that I've always been a big movie buff, and that my love for film music grew out of a keen interest in both. Of course, who knows for sure... perhaps my interest in film was born out of my love for film music. I've been listening to Out of Africa and The Man from Snowy River since I was 6.
Having done a bit of growing since 6 (haha, ya think?), my interest in music has spilled over into a variety of alternative, techno/trance, jazz, and classic rock categories. I genuinely enjoy these kinds of music, though again, my true enthusiasm lies in film music. I guess I just find it easier to connect with people when you've got more to talk to them about (re: music) than John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, and James Horner.
But, it's a cool thing to share with your friends, too. Almost a compromise or information exchange, if ya will. My friends put up with my crazy infatuation with film music and put forth an effort to learn a little about it, and in exchange, I listen to and develop an appreciation (and more often than not) an enjoyment for the music they enjoy!
People who put you down for your taste in music simply have some growing up to do. The fact that you don't do that to others puts you that much further ahead - take solace in that.
[Message edited by Jeron on 03-16-2003]
posted 03-16-2003 09:31 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

Romulan

Funny, as a high schooler, I was so arrogant that I paraded my tastes and looked down on anyone who didn't share them. I was merciless. I was playing some tapes on the boombox in the school newspaper office and some dimbulb girl asked me about what I was listening to and instead of being polite and informative, with all the shrivling spite I could muster, I said: "Well, if you had any taste or brains, you'd know who Miklos Rozsa was without me having to tell you." That didn't do much for the cause I guess, but I had a steady girlfriend, a few friends I liked, and I watched a lot of movies, so I didn't care or need to fit in. But I was bitter for not being worshipped by all for the god I thought I was, after all, people didn't bow to the floor as I passed by and girls didn't shove each other aside for the chance to suck my cock as I believed they should, so I'd go around rudely insulting everyone (much as I still do today).And it is odd. Somedays after hearing a great score or seeing some neat film, I still don't get it. I should be able to start whistling Quo Vadis on some street corner and have 3 people join in and afterwards strike up a conversation about the merits of Nicholas Ray. I mean, movies and film music are so great that EVERYONE should be into them hardcore, movies and film music should be on everyone's lips, the latest Williams should be a big chartbuster while Emenem CDs are "limited to 3,000 copies," so why isn't this the case? Somedays, it still doesn't make any sense.
In any case, these days I try to tone my arrogant stance down (especially on a date) but I answer truthfully that I like all kinds of music but am primarily interested in film music. I don't expect people to relate to it and so it's a potential turn-off but it's kind of like the "Have you ever been bitten by a dead bee?" question from the film version of To Have and Have Not, you're in depending on your answer. I usually tell potential girlfriends that I grew up watching movies and just tuned into the music that was in them and started to listen to it on it's own, that it's not something people commonly do, that I can probably like whatever music they're into as well so we can share common ground, and I don't insist she has to listen to the stuff I like, but that I am seriously into it and like it over everything else. If she says cool, that's great.
I guess the point is that since many people don't listen to film music on its own, it does take some explaining because it's different. So explain it in straightforward simple terms. You can hide it, but don't talk about film music furtively like it's the same as child molesting or freemasonry. You're into something you know is different and uncommon so say "I'm into something different and uncommon." I mean people who dye their hair green and orange don't go around apologizing for it afterwards and if they did they'd lose all respect. I think of this as similar. As long as you stand up for your tastes, most people will respect you even if they don't share them. The jerks who tease you over it or the girl who won't give you blow jobs because of it are immature and not worth dwelling on.
This is a great piece of advice for many occasions besides this one. It comes from the opening of Hemingway's Across the River and Into the Trees. The book starts out with a guy going out to do some duck hunting. He's hired a boat and the guy rowing the boat is in a bad mood. He's supposed to be putting out decoys and helping but he's being surly and a killjoy. The duck hunter doesn't like the way he's putting the decoys out and he starts getting annoyed himself but he catches this and reminds himself, "Don't let him spoil it." Great advice: Don't let them spoil it. Enjoy your pleasures and when they ask....who cares what YOU say or how they respond, just enjoy your pleasures, just enjoy your pleasures.
[Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 03-17-2003]
posted 03-16-2003 11:36 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

Romulan

quote:
Originally posted by Lou Goldberg:
The jerks who tease you over it or the girl who won't give you blow jobs because of it are immature and not worth dwelling on.HAHAHAHA, why Lou, I've never quite looked at it that way before. What a fresh take! Hallelujah to that.
Aside from that gem, you offer some great, colloquial advice.
Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 03-17-2003]
posted 03-17-2003 12:38 AM PT (US) 
justin boggan

Romulan

quote:
I mean, movies and film music are so great that EVERYONE should be into them hardcore, movies and film music should be on everyone's lips, the latest Williams should be a big chartbuster while Emenem CDs are "limited to 3,000 copies," so why isn't this the case? Somedays, it still doesn't make any sense.HA!!!!!
YEs it should be that way. I was talking to this person who has a very high IQ, above geneous level and he mentioned that he liked the cue from the end of the first Star Wars movie, I told him who did it and which SW movie it was. I told him about scores and made him a smapler of scores. Turns out he liked action scores. So I had to make a action score sampler. The cue he liked the most was the theme from "7 Days" a tv show. Now while that was nice that he enjoyed it as much as i did, it also sadly showed something else. Nowadays we are getting young score fans, not ones that appreciate a full orchastra and string movements and beautifully lush scores, but people who like techono stuff that quite frankly there is too much of these days and more than half is crap. They get introduced by a Techno like score and don't expand their pallets.
He hated The Omega Man and I couldn't get him to forget he was listening to the NBC news theme. "Don't think about it that way...""Waht kind of music do you like?" asks a person Justin is with.
"sh**," Justin replies under his breath. Knowing full well he is that corner again. He takes a deep breath and begins,
"I listen to TV and Film scores."
"Waht?" replies the guy.
"SCores."
"What's that?"
A frustrated Justin wants to kill Britany Spears and other pop artists answers back,
"You ever seen Jaws? Indiana Jones? Star Wars? Harry Potter? Jurassic Park 1 and 2?"
"YEs."
"Well John Williams composed the scores. HE is one the most famous composers that has ever lived."
"Oh."
posted 03-17-2003 08:05 AM PT (US) 
Alexborn007

Romulan

Thanks for the fantastic advice
Another thing that bothered me was how I, myself, was not happy that I liked film scores (this was back in about 8th-10th grade). So, I tried listening to what was popular and it really didn't sink in until about December 2002 that this is just what I like and who I am (Movies and their music). And honestly, going all out on CDs for the first time (instead of some Goldsmith and Linkin Park mp3s) was one of the most fulfilling things I'd done for myself in awhile.
I definitely agree with all of your advice, People need to be into it just as much as I am muwahahahaha! In a sense, if you like movies, you're almost a score fan. Its just that first CD that is the hardest lol.
posted 03-17-2003 09:10 AM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
Romulan

I typically just tell people that I listen to oldies, since that's "weird enough" for most of my peers. I really don't want to spend my time explaining film music to people (unless I really care about them.)So basically, I'm not ashamed of it. I'd just rather not waste my time trying to inform people about it when most of them really don't care or understand in the first place. Just as Lou said in his last paragraph: I enjoy my music, and I really don't care how others feel about it. I just don't often find it useful to "stand up to my tastes."
posted 03-17-2003 09:35 AM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

Romulan

quote:
Originally posted by Lou Goldberg:
the girl who won't give you blow jobs because of it are immature and not worth dwelling on.[Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 03-17-2003]
Trust me, the girl who will give you a BJ even though you like film scores is well worth it.

I usually tell people I prefer music from the 70's & 80's and that I hate Country and Rap. When I do mention I collect them people usually assume they are the Songtracks and I politely correct them and tell them I prefer scores. When I was growing up most of my friends thought it was pretty cool that I collected soundtracks so I've never been made fun of. The only problems I've encountered is at Circuit City or Best Buy with the typical dumb responses we all seem to get from the sales people regarding scores, "You know that's not the song album.", "You listen to this music?", "What Groups are on the Independence Day Soundtrack?" and my favorite: "Uhhhh....I'm not sure that CD is available.....uhhh never heard of it....I know we had the song version....Varese who?????"
posted 03-17-2003 09:56 AM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
Romulan

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Olivarez:
The only problems I've encountered is at Circuit City or Best Buy with the typical dumb responses we all seem to get from the sales people regarding scores...I've only had something like this happen to me once. At Barnes and Noble I was buying both The Blue Max and Forever Young.
The guy at the counter asked, "Do you like airplanes?"
"Huh?" I said.
"Oh, well, both those movies have airplanes in them."
"Oh oh, no, I'm a Jerry Goldsmith fan."
"Oh." (in that "Who the hell is Jerry Goldsmith?" sort of way.)posted 03-17-2003 12:20 PM PT (US) 
Alexborn007

Romulan

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Olivarez:The only problems I've encountered is at Circuit City or Best Buy with the typical dumb responses we all seem to get from the sales people regarding scores, "You know that's not the song album.", "You listen to this music?", "What Groups are on the Independence Day Soundtrack?" and my favorite: "Uhhhh....I'm not sure that CD is available.....uhhh never heard of it....I know we had the song version....Varese who?????"[/B]
I could go on for 15-25 minutes about some experiences I have had with retailers. Borders is very helpful and never really hard to deal with. Best Buy is a PAIN...they seem to get more irritated everytime I call to ask. Plus, they seldom really try to help (I called for Jaws and when I got there to pick up the alternative...it was staring right at me). Also, NEVER try to get help when you want to get a Kurosawa movie (unless you can call it "Those Samurai Movies" lol). Gotta love it.
posted 03-17-2003 05:12 PM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

Romulan

This is an interesting topic... I've always considered my passion for film music to be too much of a defining characteristic of mine to be able to skirt the issue, but...I used to only listen to film scores and orchestral music. While working at a record store, I got into quite a bit of classic rock and jazz. This means that I have a much broader palette, which I think enriches my appreciation of film music. It also gives me the chance to understand better what other people like about certain music, and therefore I can share certain film scores with them.
For example, FSM's release of Don Ellis' French Connection scores is a great companion piece to Miles Davis' classic fusion album Bitches Brew. Many rock enthusiasts can get into David Shire's The Taking of Pelham One Two Three. And jazz fans will appreciate Lalo Schifrin. And it is very easy to introduce people to Ennio Morricone's spaghetti western scores. I can't tell you how many people have been converted into hardcore fans of Basil Poledouris' Conan the Barbarian.
As people get older, they accept more in other people. As you get older, your horizons broaden. I find that you can generally meet people halfway.
posted 03-17-2003 08:10 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
