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      MM.com: online wasteland + talk with Redman.

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    Topic:   MM.com: online wasteland + talk with Redman.

     Dinko
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     Romulan
     

    Recently on FILMUS, Ford posted this link featuring an interview with producer dude Nick Redman:
    http://haineshisway.com/interview/

    Redman comments on the internet, blasting some of the message boards.

    After which a discussion ensues on FILMUS as to which is the biggest online wasteland.

    So far, the boards blasted are:
    rmm
    filmscoremonthly
    filmtracks, and
    moviemusic.com.

    I'll let you read the whole thread right here .

    But I'll quote the comments directly regarding mm.com:

    quote:
    Originally posted by Ford Thaxton on FILMUS:

    The true wastlands of message has to be either Filmtracks board which film scores are almost never discussed or Moviemusic.com, which is run by a power mad cowordly loon who thinks he's the Pope and the board is his messageboard is his Chruch.

    IMHO fo course.


    Happy posting on the wasteland of Pope PeterK's Church.

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    posted 03-12-2003 06:11 AM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    Or like the F.A.T. man says...

    "Chruch."

    That's one thing they didn't touch much on. The bad spelling by Thaxton.

    But I agree about r.m.m. I've taken it off my Usenet listings.

    And what always gets me about the crap Ford spews out about Peter (and others) is that this site (and other sites run by other people) belong to those individuals. They have the right to do with them what they want, and run them like they want. I don't think FAT would like us telling him how to run his worthless waste of internet bandwidth.

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    posted 03-12-2003 06:27 AM PT (US)     

     JJH
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     Romulan
     

    the demise of rmm can be attributed to one Thomas Meuthing, who is not just critical, but hateful about it.
    No one can have a conversation with him without being insulted.

    (an example would be his "review" of Shore's Two Towers. It's not enough to call it dull and mediocre, but he called it simple-minded, cracking on Shore's intellect)


    At the very least the others who do continue to post on rmm try to lighten up the place with a little humor -- but sadly many of the posters are humor-challenged.


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    posted 03-12-2003 06:48 AM PT (US)     

     Al
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     Romulan
     

    Ford's comments are as unimportant and worthless as a Silva compilation.

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    posted 03-12-2003 07:04 AM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    The Pope.

    Ford's a very confused man. But let's see, which power mad "cowordly" dude would I like to be right about now, the Pope or Saddam Hussein?

    Hmmm.

    Anyway, welcome to my church. At least the aisles are clean and there is room in the pews. For clear thinkers, anyway.

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    posted 03-12-2003 09:22 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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     Romulan
     

    Gimme Saddam Hussein, GWBush, the Pope and PeterK, and I'll choose PeterK any day.

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    posted 03-12-2003 09:38 AM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    I should also say that I don't see anything too terribly special about FILMUS-L.

    or I should say anything that substantively differentiates it from any of the other online wastelands.

    except that Jack Smith posts there.

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    posted 03-12-2003 11:24 AM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    FILMUS is special. It's where all the action about "The Big T." is. Based on FIMUS ideology, if you do not like TheBigT, you are an inferior fanboy.

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    posted 03-12-2003 11:32 AM PT (US)     

     jonathan_little
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    Can somebody give me a good "Big T" score? I own the Gerhardt re-recording with T's music on it, but nothing on it really gets me going. ( )

    NP: something by The Big H. (no, not Horner or Hans.)

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    posted 03-12-2003 12:42 PM PT (US)     

     Ed
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    Anyway, welcome to my church. At least the aisles are clean and there is room in the pews. For clear thinkers, anyway.

    Ave Satani, Peter, Versus Christus.

    It's a pleasure to post here, and I don't miss Ford.


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    posted 03-12-2003 02:36 PM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    quote:
    Originally posted by jonathan_little:
    Can somebody give me a good "Big T" score? I own the Gerhardt re-recording with T's music on it, but nothing on it really gets me going. ( )

    NP: something by The Big H. (no, not Horner or Hans.)


    Lost Horizon on that Gerhardt album still gives me wood, but I kind of feel the same you do JL....Guns Of Navarone is good, but the album always bored me. I hear Search For Paradise (recently issued on cd)is good(the finale is recorded on the Gerhardt album, and it's glorious).
    His work focuses too much on that folksy, old timey song stuff for my tastes...if I have to hear that stuff, give me Steiner! I am looking forward to(with reservations) the Silva Tiomkin set coming out, if just out of curiosity. It will be interesting to hear the Big T presented in a concert manner, hope it doesn't stink (Dinko, that's your cue boss!)

    Sean


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    posted 03-12-2003 02:53 PM PT (US)     

     Taylor
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    Notice the sites that were "trashed" on Filmus were sites that F.A.T. is either hated on or is banned from. The only site that seems to get a consensus is RMM. Nobody but FAT ripped up Filmtracks, Moviemusic and FSM.

    Personally I have no problems with any of these sites. I hate RMM and have no use for Filmus.

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    posted 03-12-2003 03:02 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    quote:
    Originally posted by OHMSS76:
    I am looking forward to(with reservations) the Silva Tiomkin set coming out, if just out of curiosity. It will be interesting to hear the Big T presented in a concert manner, hope it doesn't stink (Dinko, that's your cue boss!)
    Sean

    Cue taken.

    1) I quit buying this Silva trash (unless they do something I *love*, ie Rota's Romeo and Juliet), thus I will not be able to listen to it so that I can blast it.

    2) I will buy it if the booklet credits all the Russian folk music Tiomkin used in 'his' scores.

    3) I do not know about Silva presenting stuff in concert manner. Their CDs have lots of reverb, but most of the instruments seem fairly close-miked. What I get as an impression from their CDs is that the main instruments of any given piece are mixed more prominently volume-wise, while the rest of the orchestra is dropped to the background in a concert hall setting.

    4) Well, it will just suck whatever happens. Tiomkin still has not lit up my interest, other than with 'his' themes which I really like. The rest of his music, probably the parts that are really his, I just don't like that much. As for Prague... well, the horse has been dead for so long that kicking it any more will only dirty my new running shoes.

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    posted 03-12-2003 03:30 PM PT (US)     

     Bond1965
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     Romulan
     

    You know...all complaints aside...I have no problem with Nick Redman. I've met him and would consider him a friend. And I can understand his frustration at these online attacks.

    True there have been some flaws to projects associated with him. But at least he is a friendly and intelligent man who supports film music.

    As for Ford, true he supports film music, but has a terrible ego and attitude. I think it is overcompensation for his other defects.

    That said...I really hate to see this type of "trashing" going on here. One of the reasons I have refused to post on FILMUS, RMM and FSM has to do with all this negative bickering. (I realize I just added my 2 cents to the "war" but that was only to clarify where my position lies.)

    I hope this thread doesn't linger and become some monster like it has appeared elsewhere. Let's try to find something better to discuss. If we want to talk "wars," there is too much going on in the more important REAL WORLD in this regard to discuss rather than these petty gripes.

    James


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    posted 03-12-2003 03:48 PM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    Excuse my (apparently gross) ignorance, but what or where is RMM?

    [Message edited by Camillu on 03-12-2003]

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    posted 03-12-2003 03:51 PM PT (US)     

     jonathan_little
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    Just for fun. (Warning: Narol Nalasivad at the FSM board.)

    "We both reached for the gun!"

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    posted 03-12-2003 03:53 PM PT (US)     

     jonathan_little
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    RMM is rec.music.movies on Usenet.

    Archives at Google.


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    posted 03-12-2003 03:55 PM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    Side-topic note to Dinko...

    I know the Prague horse head has long been drawing flies in the bed of Don Corleone for years now
    I guess I meant 'concert' in that this Silva set would be presenting specially arranged suites, maybe like what they did with the Moross set, The Cardinal, showcasing longer suites, instead of a parade of generic cues.

    As for all this other shite.....um, Poochy's in tha houze!!!
    Sean

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    posted 03-12-2003 04:06 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    The Pope.

    Guess I will be leaving this site then. I'm not catholic.

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    posted 03-12-2003 05:09 PM PT (US)     

     miss tonya
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    DAMN!! Has this BILGE leaked over to THIS message board!
    It's crap like this that makes me ashamed to be a film score lover.

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    posted 03-12-2003 06:20 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    Don't worry much MT. Like eating too much beans, this too will pass.


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    posted 03-12-2003 07:30 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    Sean - gotcha.

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    posted 03-12-2003 07:44 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    That's right Nick, knock the fans. Of course, if someone was on line every day saying I was Hitler or worse, I might get a bit testy about that too. Nick sees the criticism against him but doesn't see past it to the other worthwhile functions of the internet.

    But, just as there's a gap between officers and enlisted men in the army or between managers and laborers in business, there also seems to be a similar gap between record producers and the people who buy their records. The producers think the fans are just a bunch of morons who should be grateful instead of critical. Maybe it's because Nick is cultured and British and sees all this talk as hooliganism

    Actually, I think Nick has done us all a great service however first through Bay Cities and then by opening up the 20th vaults and you don't see me mention him in negative tones as I would say Ford. [Nick says that Bay Cities failed because he didn't have a guy like Chris from Varese around but it's likely if he had such a guy the guy would've opposed doing half the records Bay Cities put out.]

    As for groups from one message board knocking other message boards, that's like rooting for your own football team and dogging out the rivals. To call the whole game a wasteland though is a little harsh but people are entitled to their opinions.

    If I thought I didn't get something out of coming here, meeting other fans, reading posts, and writing responses (like this one), I wouldn't do it. This is hardly a wasteland, in fact, it's one of the few places where you can talk about the pros and cons of the subject. Without it, I'd be in isolation with issues of the Film Score Monthly as my one and only Pravda to get info and opinion from.

    But, I'm sure that would be fine by the record producers because then I'd talk their party line and praise them with rose petals for every little crum they dished out.

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 03-12-2003]

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