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    Topic:   FB: Memoirs of A Touchy Fanboy

     Lou Goldberg
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     Romulan
     

    Last month marked my 3rd year of posting here on the MM.com board, so I thought I'd look back a little.

    I wish during all this time I had been more informative, but I'm not an insider--I come here to get news rather give it. Therefore, the majority of my posts have been made up of my (mostly negative) opinions on things.

    There have been a lot of great things to support and celebrate. This is a great time to be a fan of film music, but even so, I've spent a lot of time on the warpath against stuff: shoddy re-records, Sonic Wallpaper, James Horner, Zimmer and Media Ventures, the mistreatment of composers by the industry establishment, and so on and so forth.

    When I wasn't fighting against trends I didn't like in film music, I was fighting against the opinions of other people on the board. My wrath rained down on "kids" who refused to see films or listen to scores older than they were; on people who felt they could say any old thing and not be taken to task about it; on people who insisted everyone be polite and PC; even on Peter K for removing topics, disallowing swear words, and banning people from the board.

    Yes, I've chewed out just about everyone who has disagreed with me. A few people who couldn't stand the heat left the kitchen. I chewed them out a second time: Don't leave. If you can't stand the heat, wear asbestos. Come back with your dukes up fighting. But they weren't up to being challenged and wimped off to FSM and other boards or gave up posting altogether. There were others who stood their ground and flung some mud and still took off. I didn't even like those guys and I miss them.

    But a lot of that character to the board is gone. There are no more bar brawls or napalm strikes, all that excitement having been replaced with a more common tone of sarcasm. Peter hasn't had to intervene in ages because nobody starts **** around here anymore. It's just dull old Home Sweet Home.

    I'm still a touchy fanboy, egotistic and self-important, sword in hand ready to fight the infidels. But, all the infidels are indifferent and the sword is heavy and, well, you get the picture.... [Lou yawns, lies down on the couch.]

    I don't know what the next three years will bring. But, as long as it brings stuff like the expanded Bond scores or the FSM treasures, there'll be some good to balance out the crap. Maybe then I won't have to be so touchy, instead I'll just crack a smile and get some sleep.

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 02-17-2003]

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    posted 02-17-2003 11:02 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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     FishChip
     

    Lou, thanks for the longevity. You may be the touchiest fanboy around these parts, only because there's a laundry list of really touchy fanboys somewhere around here, more touchy than even you, who couldn't deal with the FishChip brand of fascism and threw in the towel. Whatever... their loss, and ours.

    Your unstability and want to rock the boat is actually, to me, a sort of stability when it comes to varied points of view. And unlike the two-bit point of view, you've dedicated time to really hashing out your thoughts. Sometimes it is beating the dead horse... but even that can be fun if done slightly different with each whack. Hmm, not a pretty analogy, but it should make the sense it's supposed to. In any event, here's to you. Cheers for three years.

    In the words of one of my favorite beer commercials at the moment, and a phrase I always envisioned a "Lou Phrase" after he's just shredded a Horner fan for enjoying the Hornerdisms, "OH YEAAAAH!!! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT!!!!!"

    Thanks!

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    posted 02-18-2003 12:02 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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     Romulan
     

    Thanks Peter. Yeah, that horse sure is dead, but I figure if I'm going to go on hittin' him, I might as well make an original pattern with the whacks.

    I'm sure it surprises me more than anyone when I still find another turn of phrase about the same stuff. I suppose I'd talk about a wider range of subjects, but they never seem to come up. There's always the junkyard, but I find myself getting in over my head talking about complex subjects like culture, politics, and current events. You still have to try to say something about what's going on, but I find it hard to get a grip on the truth and I can't predict the future. Sticking with familiar territory, the few topics I started about literature and other arts besides music and cinema crashed and burned.

    I try to be a booster about good things but my somewhat high standards insure, for better or worse, that I don't see too many good things around. Debating personal taste is difficult. You like what you like based on the same gut level feelings that lead me to like what I like and yet we don't like the same things. How strange. I should respect that and leave it at that but the touchy fanboy in me won't leave it in peace: Horner's no good. His fans should know better. It's so obvious. Why don't they catch on? They all must have low IQs. That explains it but how do you argue with the retarded? There must be one of two people in there who can be saved with the Krell Mind Booster. Of course, you first have to explain to them where the KMB comes from and who Louis and Bebe Barron are as well. But having done that step maybe it'll work. Let's see. Ok, Clyde step into the booth. I'm flipping the switch....Yes, yes, I see. Horner is a hack. Oh, yes, the early Goldsmith is better. How could I have ever liked Zimmer, it's beyond me. Hey, I get it, it is better when the composers don't all sound alike, the Golden Age is king. And Silva does suck. You should set up Ford Thaxton for a session inside one of these booths. And Marco Polo needs to stop recording all that lame Steiner and do some Rozsa and more British film music. Bernard Herrmann is in a class by himself. And oh, oh, oh, Tokyo Olympiad, The Big Country, Obsession, Air Power, The Roots of Heaven, Sarde, Delerue, Leith Stevens, and Akira Ifukube! That's it, my copy of MI:2 is a coaster from now on and I'm tossing my GNP Crescendo Berman-period Trek show scores off a bridge. Thank you, you saved me.

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    posted 02-18-2003 04:40 AM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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     Romulan
     

    Lou, am I reading you wrong or is there - in your message - a sense of nostalgia for the days of fists and blows when this board resembled a Hollywood western?

    As for the next three years, hope you'll be touchy, bring up some great arguments (better to post less but post good stuff, than post a lot and post useless poop) and write another set of memoirs.

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    posted 02-18-2003 05:40 AM PT (US)     

     Mark Olivarez
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     Romulan
     

    I don't know what this board would do without you Lou.

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    posted 02-18-2003 06:34 AM PT (US)     

     Kevin
     Romulan
     

    But but guys...

    He secretly wants to do us in!! Didn't you read all of his post?

    quote:
    ...wear asbestos.

    We'll all die!!! Aughhh!!

    Okay, I've not had enough sleep, I guess (even though I fell asleep during last nights' chat. )

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    posted 02-18-2003 06:55 AM PT (US)     

     lancer
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     Romulan
     

    im new here myself, but congats anyway, keep whatever it si you do up.

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    posted 02-18-2003 08:27 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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     Romulan
     

    Mark--My self-important egotistical side agrees with you, the board would collapse into dust without my brilliant posts and presence

    Kev--You're right. Why would I give my opponents a handicap like the ability to stay alive? OK, perhaps I should have phrased it, "If you can't stand the heat, wear some flame retardant stuff," but that didn't sound right.

    Dinko--As for the Wild West that Peter so abhorred, I liked Lux and Hard Target and Big Bear and D2. FSM and Filmus-L let Ford Thaxton post, but by banning him here, we miss all the fun of him telling people off and us calling him names in return, not to mention all the back and forth slams that would go on between Pete and Ford.

    Of course my favorite Wild West exchanges went something like this:

    Lou: Private board or not, I think people should say as they please here without any restraints, we're all adults screw being polite.

    Wuss: People's feelings get hurt by mean words. I think we should all hold hands and sing songs by the campfire.

    Lou: I think you need to do us all a favor and return to the womb.

    Wuss: Oh. Nobody has ever said something like that to me in my whole life. It's people like you who aren't nice that cause all the trouble in the world. I think people like you who aren't polite and unoffensive need to taken out and strung up. If you can't respect the [asinine] opinions of others, you should have your beating heart torn from your chest and have it stomped on in front of your dying eyes. You should be flayed alive and have salt poured into your open wounds, you fu-cking impolite godddammed pissant SOB. Blow torches should melt your eyeballs but only after you've seen your house aflame and your family killed. If you can't be nice you should be repeatedly run over by a train until there is nothing left of you but pulp. I'm leaving this board to find like-minded people who know how to say nice things to each other rather than put up with scum like you who need to be horribly tortured for days and then boiled in oil.

    Lou: Uh, is it me, or is there something wrong with this picture?

    Lancer--Of course, doing "that thing I do" can have negative consequences. When that Rick guy from Silva showed up on the boards to say hi, I blasted him point blank with both barrels. He'll probably never post here again and as a result we won't be as likely to get the scoops on what Silva and others are doing that he could have given us.

    On the other hand, he seemed like he was going to be insufferable so maybe it's better to step up to that right off the bat before it gets a chance to take hold.

    On the other non-existant 3rd hand, if he'd stuck around, we could have had lovely fights saying all the things to him that we can't say to Ford about Silva because Ford isn't here to get blasted himself. Oh well.

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 02-28-2003]

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    posted 02-18-2003 09:34 PM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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     Romulan
     

    "My egotistical side agrees." You an Ayn Rand lover, Lou?

    Thanks Lou for posting this. I'm not into fighting, but you have added much needed seasonings to our rather bland exchanges. I do read all of your posts!!

    NP Walk On The Wild Side..seems appropriate.

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    posted 02-18-2003 10:18 PM PT (US)     

     jonathan_little
     Romulan
     

    quote:
    Originally posted by Lou Goldberg:
    ...all that excitement having been replaced with a more common tone of sarcasm.


    OUCHIE!! YOUR A MEANIE!!

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    posted 02-18-2003 11:05 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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     Romulan
     

    Joan--Since I lean libertarian on many issues, I'm often pegged as an Objectivist. And while I have read Ayn Rand, think she should be read, and use some of her arguments to defend points I make, Rand and I disagree on many issues.

    If you see the mind as Right Brain and Left Brain, I seek a balance whereas Rand was strictly Left Brain. Her logical, rational athiesm has no room for the mystic things I value: Eastern philosophy, intuition, divination, et al.

    While I respect that capitalism is responsible for the high standard of living we have in the US and is the one system that upholds individual property rights, I have many other deep criticisms of the system that she would reject as evil and irrational.

    As a lover of cinema, I have to admit I love and admire the amazing things other people can do. Also, I respect professionals, especially if they are good in roles of great responsibility. Nevertheless, I don't share Rand's romantic hero worship over people who are exceptional.

    I still tend to be egalitarian: Death is the great equalizer. No matter how rich, talented, beautiful, or profound, everybody has to die and in that sense I don't see anyone as being special or superior to anyone else and I don't like people to act as if they are.

    I can respect accomplishment and rank the quality of people's works, but that's different from the natural abhorrance I have for leaders, managers, and other big egos. I'll leave them alone to make all the money and have all the power and achievement they want to, but I usually can't stand to meet them. I'm more like my friend who shocks people when he says he supports capitalism but hates business. The sight of a "briefcase boy" in a suit with an optimistic Dale Carnegie "go-to" attitude talking numbers on his cell phone over lunch makes him want to gag. Me too.

    There are things Rand and I would agree on. I like her praise of recreational, pre- and extra- marital sex and her dislike of the Judeo-Christian stance against it. More basically we would agree that life is more for having fun than it is for running a charity. Likewise, she and I both seem to dislike people who get in the way when you want to do something.

    This is just the tip of the iceberg on all that can be said about this subject, but that's for another place and time.

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 02-19-2003]

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    posted 02-19-2003 03:24 AM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    quote:
    I like her praise of recreational, pre- and extra- marital sex and her dislike of the Judeo-Christian stance against it.

    Of course you'd like it, if your mind's always in the gutter. Who cares about the physiological and emotional consequences?
    This is just an excuse to whore around and become a walking genital wart.


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    posted 02-19-2003 10:50 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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     Romulan
     

    Three years is far too short a time to share a messageboard with such an excellent and admirable FB (and no, I don't mean the Fat Bastard )

    There's a sign on the front that says "Lou's Tavern." I'm ****ing Lou. Who the **** are you?!

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    posted 02-19-2003 11:40 AM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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     Romulan
     

    Thanks for the explanation, Lou. Appreciate it.

    JJH, Lou knows I'd NEVER let him near MY daughters. I am too much of a Puritan.

    NP Fluke

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    posted 02-19-2003 11:59 AM PT (US)     

     Bulldog
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    I don't think it's accurate to describe Ayn Rand as "left-brained." She deeply valued emotions, which she realized were consequents of thinking.

    Speaking about thinking, I'd try to be sure that beliefs correspond to the facts of reality and the facts of life.

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    posted 02-19-2003 03:45 PM PT (US)     

     Bulldog
     Romulan
     

    Also, remember that Ayn Rand did not advocate sex for the sake of sex. Sex, as a physical and spiritual act, is something for people who truly love one another to engage in.

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    posted 02-19-2003 03:49 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    JJH--I'm a slut, though safe and clean of STDs. I don't consider the lust I have "my mind in the gutter" but a normal natural response to how hot and sexy women are. Organized religions want to label that as sinful. They say I should repress myself and turn away from sex unless I'm married and it's for procreation. But it's when I'm in drydock or stuck in some longterm relationship with no new girl to jump to, that's when my physiological and emotional state turns sour, not the other way around.

    Joan--Yes, but what are you going to do when your daughters decide to get near me (or someone worse) despite what you want?

    Bulldog--If Rand thought of sex as you say, then she's just as insistent on a sexual ethic as the Christians. At Spring Break on South Padre Island no one is thinking about love for one another. The glory hole in the wall of a gay bar is about having orgasm without any ethical rules or emotional attachments. [The glory hole is so amazing it almost makes me wish I were gay. There's a wall with a hole in it. One guy is on one side, another on the other. The first guy sticks his stuff in and gets fellatio from the other guy and then they switch. Both guys get off and don't even know who did it to them, it's completely anonymous. No dates, no flowers, no worrying about compatibility, and no children to raise. All the joy and none of the hassle, compromise, work, or hoops to jump through you get with hetrosexuality. You just return to going about your business until it's time to get more action. If women were as into sex as much as guys are, life would be a paradise here without there ever being a need to talk about Heaven. Women fear pregnancy so they have evolved to be selective and since that took 4 million years, it isn't going to change just because he've had the pill for 30 years. Too bad. Thank god for the loose women we do have.] I'd like to see you and JJH at closing time at my local bar spouting this stuff. And what if some hot sexy thang came up to you with a genuine offer to go to bed? Are you guys going to hold up the Bible and The Fountainhead and turn her down because it's ethically wrong? Maybe you but not me.

    Basing one's ideas on reality sounds good, but even though our senses are fairly accurate (if they weren't we'd be bumping into trees we couldn't sense were there), many aspects of reality are still fluid and elusive. Rand may have praised emotions, as you say, but how did she prove that emotions are caused by thinking? Free-floating anxiety, for instance, isn't caused by anything other than brain chemistry or unconscous obsessions (which might be 'thinking' but not the active action you are referring to).

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 02-19-2003]

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    posted 02-19-2003 09:21 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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     Romulan
     

    Let's see the score so far. I've pissed off the religious conservatives, the Objectivists, I pissed off the peacenik liberals off when I said we should go to Iraq, but pissed off the rightists when I said I abhorred George Bush, and I've always slammed the far left. And I've slammed just about everybody's tatstes in film music. So, is there anybody left around here I've left out?

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    posted 02-19-2003 11:41 PM PT (US)     

     Bulldog
     Romulan
     

    For instance: Have a teacher tell a three-year old preschooler that he/she is going to administer a pop test. Nothing happens. Now, have a high school teacher or college professor do the same thing for his/her students. A very different response. Why? The older students know what a pop test is and what the ramifications are of such.

    Rand's thoughts on sex are not "Judeo-Christian." Yet they're not Heidi Fleissian, either. She would not deny people the right to take part in consentual sex with whomever, whenever--but she would accurately tell us that having sex just to have sex is spiritually unfulfilling and not really egoistic.

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    posted 02-20-2003 05:09 AM PT (US)     

     rachmaninov
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     Romulan
     

    I’m recent in here, and I haven’t been able to get to deeply know your “philosophy” but for what I’ve read so far, let me thank you for your comments on the board.

    Rach

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    posted 02-20-2003 05:57 PM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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     Romulan
     

    Marian, LOL.

    Joan, stand tall, ma'am.

    I know Lou for the nice guy he is inside. There you go, buddy. J.

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    posted 02-23-2003 11:08 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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     Romulan
     

    They say if you scratch a saint you'll find a sinner, but if you scratch a sinner you'll often find a man who wants to be a saint!

    There's a germ of truth in everything I say, but then I'm the first to tell you it's all nonsense.

    And as soon as I've been the trickster and pulled the ultimate in Frat boy pranks, I'll surprise even myself with some conventional good deed.

    If I'm ultimately the touchy fanboy, it's because I still want good things out of the world and I get disappointed instead which pisses me off and means steam blows out my ears and.....


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    posted 02-24-2003 08:01 PM PT (US)     

     SCimmerian
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    Envy and Resentment and Cynicism. Yup the toppings on your bowl ice cream.

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    posted 02-26-2003 05:26 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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     Romulan
     

    Envy? I've got more good than I can deal with now. I never want what another's got. Unless maybe it's a rare bootleg or the guy's wife. I usually get those things too. Resentment? Sure, when some pissant takes a potshot at me, I resent it. Then I transcend it. Cynicism? Absolutely. Wouldn't go for a day thinking the human race is actually a good thing.

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 02-26-2003]

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