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But enough about that (since I'll get blasted) thoughts and ideas about the new Davis' score!

--Brian

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Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
But enough about that (since I'll get blasted) thoughts and ideas about the new Davis' score!

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Uhh.... Don hasn't recorded it yet. No one has heard it yet. So.... what kind of thoughts and ideas do you suppose you could come up with that would be anything more than random conjecture??

(because the first score was non-thematic)

Would that disqualify him?

That said, I gotta be honest, I've been quite disappointed in Davis' output since then. There's some nice stuff that develops halfway through JURASSIC III (the "man with the hat" stuff, as I believe the cue is called), and I was a fan of BEHIND ENEMY LINES and wish that had a score album. But otherwise -- well, let's put it this way. The MATRIX is the MATRIX and he totally rose to the challenge with a lot of stunning, original material and some truly memorable brass and choral writing, the kind that I personally love and frankly don't think we get enough of (come back, E. Goldenthal, come back...put down the Spanish guitar and pen us another ALIEN III). Thus, I think the MATRIX, as it might anyone (sorry for those that don't like it, I...got nothin' ta say), inspired Davis to be creative and deliver some great work. But I mean, how inspired can one be by the likes of ECKS VS. SEVER or TURBULENCE II.

(Other exceptions, lest it seem like I'm being too harsh on Senor Davis - the title cue for ANTITRUST is lovely, surprising for a film that's pretty thuddingly dull and stupid, while the HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL stuff gets repetitive after a while but his opening throbbing organ-laced cue is superb and, frankly, as good as the Dark Castle scores have gotten, despite Frizell's latest good stab at doing penance on G. SHIP for 13 GHOSTS' loud-ass score.)

I guess it comes down to this. When Davis was named JP3's composer, everyone I know (at least those not really cognizant of film score stuff) was like "Oh, what the...? Who the hell's that?" And I proudly informed/reminded them that he's the guy who gave us the brilliant MATRIX score. And then JP3, again, while decent, just wasn't anything overly inspired and the above referenced stuff (along with the really uninspired VALENTINE -- again, a really bad movie that I can't imagine would inspire anyone to do a really great score -- and UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: THE RETURN) was even more disappointing.

So, I have strong hopes that this can be a great score. But WARRIORS OF VIRTUE and MATRIX show an epic, grandiose, really nuanced (to my ear, anyhow) style of writing that Davis simply hasn't delivered since. But if any films can bring about a change, you couldn't ask for 2 more plum assignments than MATRIX 2 and 3.

As always, just my 1 and a 1/2 cents.

MS

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Originally posted by Wickenstein:
Goldenthal needs to give us another dissonant, loud, and exotic Alien3/Final Fantasy score.

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Geez... the guy does like ONE project after FF, and it's FRIDA, and suddenly it's like "stop with the guitars"!!

I'm sure you'll find THE GOOD THIEF to be... interesting, even if it's not what you're hoping for.....

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:

Uhh.... Don hasn't recorded it yet. No one has heard it yet. So.... what kind of thoughts and ideas do you suppose you could come up with that would be anything more than random conjecture??

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Maybe that's the point...People do talk about the possible expansion of certain themes and sounds in the first score. It's happened before, I don't see a problem now.

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Originally posted by Camillu:
At least Mr. Davis doesn't need to worry about not being eligible for any oscars

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Well, he says he didn't use themes, but he did use one theme, for the Sentinels...

And for those looking for an "Alien³/Final Fantasy" Goldenthal score...since you didn't include it in this brief list, I can only assume you don't have Sphere yet!

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Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
People do talk about the possible expansion of certain themes and sounds in the first score. It's happened before, I don't see a problem now.

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Sure, go for it. I'm sure Don will get a kick out of what pops up!

And Marian is correct, he does talk in the commentary about the Bug/Sentinel motif. And there's also one which appears to be connected to Trinity.. it shows up (as far as I can tell) three times in the original score. The first time is when Neo is about to get out of the car near the beginning and Trinity stops him and urges him to stay. The second time is during "Ontological Shock," after the helicopter incident, just as he finishes pulling Trinity up and she steps on the roof. The third occurrence is during "Anything is Possible," but I can't rmemeber right now if it's while she's persuading Neo to live or after he gets out of the Matrix and they kiss.

It'll be interesting to me to find out if this is all just a coincidence or if Davis really does intend it to have some meaning... it seems to show up every time Trinity inspires Neo to do something extraordinary.

PS Marian, I have Sphere and yes, I forgot all about it! I watched that movie yesterday and was once again amazed at all the stuff left off the cd! Once again, boo hoo for us I guess.

NP: The Lion In Winter (Barry)

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Originally posted by justin boggan:
Don Davis? I remember a thread at ones of these boards were i guy mentioned that Robert Dougan was going to score the next movie and i was excited about that and no one, including Dan, said other wise. So i guess it isn't him anymore huh?

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Uh, no. Don is scoring both films this year. He already did the ANIMATRIX films. And he's even contributing some music to the upcoming video game (from what I understand). It's a big year for THE MATRIX, and for Don!

It was by far the most memorable scene (musically speaking) from the Matrix, as I wasn't too thrilled with the extreme underscoring that Don Davis did for the movie. I mean he took the word UNDERscoring to a whole new level. To this date it's one of the only two scores I have ever parted with, the other being Batman Returns.

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Originally posted by justin boggan:
Rbert Dougan (.com)

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http://www.robertdugan.com/

Wow. He's into real estate now?

Try here: http://www.robdougan.com/

Dan

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Originally posted by Norman McCay:
The "Clubbed To Death" piece was based on classical music

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And how is it "morally and etheicly" wrong to point out your spelling errors? You make it so obvious....

Dan

I can't remember the name of the classical piece either...

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Originally posted by Norman McCay:
I mean he took the word UNDERscoring to a whole new level.

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I disagree entirely. Davis' score was absolutely integral to the success of the picture, and was easily one of the most organic fusions of image and music in the past decade. I also think it brought mainstream film music up to speed with contemporary concert music, using the styles of John Adams and (to a lesser extent) Aaron Jay Kernis and David Lang as a spring board to create something that has never really been heard in a major film release before. (Thomas Newman has also done this to some extent, though in a rather different style.) And the score is truly married to the film. Watch the DVD with the isolated score to see just how perfect that marriage is; each is so integral to the other, image and music, that it's hard to imagine the film ever existed without the score.

Kirk
NP - After Extra Time (Michael Nyman)

What I would really like to get is Symphony in Waves, which is also on an out-of-print and much rarer Argo release. I heard part of it on the radio quite some time ago and found it stunning.

If you have the version of Michael Nyman's Piano Concerto / MGV that came with the free Argo sampler CD, there's a short excerpt of Symphony in Waves on it that is very compelling.

I keep wanting to expand my Kernis collection, but all I ever see in stores is the cello/orchestra version of Colored Field. I'll probably get that eventually, but I'd like to hear some other works first. I really wish Decca would reissue some of these OOP Argo CDs.

Anyway, the bottom line is that Colored Field was my introduction and I really liked it, enough to make me start seeking out more of his work. If you can't find the Argo release, go for the cello version (I can't recall what label it's on) - I haven't heard it, but I've read good things about it, and if it's at all like the original version then you should be quite pleased.

Kirk

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Uhh.... Don hasn't recorded it yet. No one has heard it yet. So.... what kind of thoughts and ideas do you suppose you could come up with that would be anything more than random conjecture??

Dan[/B]

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He hasn't recorded it yet? He's got less than four months to get it scored. I'm sure the sound mixing guys are drumming their fingers impatiently.

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Originally posted by Jeff C.:
He's got less than four months to get it scored.

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It's not uncommon for a film score to be recorded mere weeks before the film's release.... X-MEN 2 is recording in March. The film comes out May 5.... By that logic, Davis has plenty of time.....

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Originally posted by James:
The only one I have is Colored Field (Concerto for English horn and orchestra) on an out-of-print (but apparently still easy to find) Argo release.

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The Matrix: Special Edition (DVD): On April 29th, a few weeks shy of the first sequel's release, Warners will put out a special two-disc set for the original box-office smash with all sorts of stuff. All the extras that appeared on the single-disc release a few years back will be here, as will the entire "The Matrix Revisited" two-hour documentary. Joining it will be several new behind-the-scenes featurettes, three hours worth of audio music track, an 800+ still gallery, the Marilyn Manson music video "Rock is Dead", previews of the game & Animatrix episodes, and an exclusive preview of the second film. All of this will come in collectible foil packaging whilst worldwide release dates should fall along similar lines.

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Originally posted by Ed:
What on earth could be on a three-hour music track? More Davis?

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Here's an excerpt from what The Digital Bits list as official info:

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Disc One is the same special edition DVD disc that was available previously [...] Disc Two is the original Matrix: Revisited DVD [...] upgraded with several new bonus features. [...] All of the contents on the original Matrix: Revisited disc are here as well, including 6 behind-the-scenes featurettes on the first film (2 hours total), 3 hours of music/audio tracks [...]

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