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 juha
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I would like to hear some thoughts and stories about scores that were composed in a short time. Usually this is a very unpleasant experience to work under pressure but sometimes the results represent the very best from the composer.

AIR FORCE ONE (written and recorded in two weeks! with a little help from Joel McNeely)
ALIENS (in 10 days!!)
MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN (in two weeks)
THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (four weeks)
ROBIN AND MARIAN (three weeks)
MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING (in less than a week)
TOMB RAIDER (haven't heard this one but it was written in a hurry)
LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (four weeks)

If I remember correctly these scores were also written in a short time:

DOCTOR ZHIVAGO
WATERWORLD
ROSEWOOD
MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE
JUDGE DREDD
KING OF KINGS

Additions and comments are welcome

Juha

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posted 01-09-2003 10:07 AM PT (US)    ip  

 Ed
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CHINATOWN: 10 days from first screening with director to final mix. Goldsmith's score replaced another one.

I LOVE TROUBLE was a fast replacement job for Newman when the producers decided to change the tone of the film. Bernsteins' score was tossed out.

THE KID: a low-key, dramatic score by Goldsmith was junked in favor or a more uptempo comedic one by Marc Shaiman at the last minute.

Tangerine Dream's LEGEND is another.

Also, Patrick Doyle's score for STEPMOM was replaced by John Williams' when the producers discovered he was available. Williams' score might be another fast one.

Generally any time producers panic and switch composers late in the game, someone else has to meet a ridiculous deadline.

Although Jerry Goldsmith had worked on STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE off and on for a year, the final scoring sessions were a wild race to adapt timings to the dangerously-late special effects.

I think Silvestri had similar problems scoring VOLCANO.

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posted 01-09-2003 10:37 AM PT (US)    ip  

 OHMSS76
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KAMEN - WHAT DREAMS MAY COME - 6 DAYS!

Top that juggalos!

Sean

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posted 01-09-2003 11:01 AM PT (US)    ip  

 Jeron
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Let's not forget the Bruce Broughton's brilliant score from LOST IN SPACE. More than an hour of music... this one was slapped together in less than 2 weeks! And that's not accounting for the re-writes and alternates... Wowzers...

[Message edited by Jeron on 01-09-2003]

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posted 01-09-2003 11:12 AM PT (US)    ip  

 Richard Street
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Alan Silvestri's replacement score for PRACTICAL MAGIC. Wasn't that done in three or four days?

NP: TOMORROW NEVER COMES (Roy Budd)

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posted 01-09-2003 11:35 AM PT (US)    ip  

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Elliot Goldenthal composed his Oscar nominated score to INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE (replacing George Fenton) in about two weeks. And that's not accounting for the re-writes and alternates... Wowzers...

Dan

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posted 01-09-2003 12:15 PM PT (US)    ip  

 sean
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Mission: Impossible II: Apparently, Hans Zimmer wrote this one in two weeks (can anyone say "additional arrangements"?).

Pearl Harbour: This one too, in two weeks, although Zimmer worked on the main theme for a while before the rest of the score was completed.

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posted 01-09-2003 01:06 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Erik Woods
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Sorry...

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posted 01-09-2003 01:17 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Erik Woods
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Howard Shore's score to RANSOM was tossed for a score by James Horner which was rumored to have been composed and recorded in 6 days.

-Erik-

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posted 01-09-2003 01:18 PM PT (US)    ip  

 dgoldwas
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quote:
Originally posted by sean:
Mission: Impossible II: Apparently, Hans Zimmer wrote this one in two weeks (can anyone say "additional arrangements"?).

Where did you hear that? Doesn't "mesh" with what I recall about the post-production on the film....

Dan

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posted 01-09-2003 01:33 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Gae
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I seem to remember that John Barry didn't have too long to write the King Kong(1976) score. I'd be guessing but I think it was done in about 2 weeks?

Prokofiev wrote "Peter and the Wolf" in one week.

Gae

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posted 01-09-2003 02:53 PM PT (US)    ip  

 SBD
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Much to my chagrin, I will add "Scary Movie 2". 11 days + 13 composers = derivative junk for an ultra-crappy "comedy".

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posted 01-09-2003 03:06 PM PT (US)    ip  

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SBD, that's 11 composers, not counting George S. Clinton's rejected score which someone described to me. Sounded very interesting.

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posted 01-09-2003 05:22 PM PT (US)    ip  

 rkeaveney
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WINDTALKERS had to be written in like, a day.

Ryan

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posted 01-09-2003 05:42 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Richard
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I was listening to While You Were Sleeping by Randy Edelman yesterday, for the first time in quite a while and I was actually thinking about how long it may have taken him. Personally, I'd be surprised if it was writtne in anything over a week.
I think it's also pretty shoddy that Doyle's score for Stepmom was replaced by Williams' merely because the producers discovered Williams was 'available'.

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posted 01-09-2003 07:14 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Metalstorm- Richard Band
11 days.

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posted 01-09-2003 07:22 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Jeron
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard:
I think it's also pretty shoddy that Doyle's score for Stepmom was replaced by Williams' merely because the producers discovered Williams was 'available'.

Echoes some 'Patriot'-ic memories...

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posted 01-09-2003 07:42 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Assassin - Mark Mancina was replacing Michael Kamen's rejected score and wrote that in some couple of week. Prolly 1 week Though only less than 20 minutes (out of 70) is considered listenable...

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posted 01-09-2003 11:43 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Elfman's Mission: Impossible score was written over a period of about two weeks, having replaced Silvestri's.

SFT

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posted 01-10-2003 05:34 AM PT (US)    ip  

 Erik Woods
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quote:
Originally posted by SFT:
Elfman's Mission: Impossible score was written over a period of about two weeks, having replaced Silvestri's.

SFT


DePalma was right on this one... Silvestri's score was a stinker!!!

-Erik-

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posted 01-10-2003 06:41 AM PT (US)    ip  

 Erik Woods
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Sorry... again!

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posted 01-10-2003 06:43 AM PT (US)    ip  

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I'd be interested to know how long Graeme Revell has had on "Daredevil" considering all the behind the scenes trouble I've been hearing about from a friend who is working on the film.

Sounds like there was some drastic editing problems and the film needed major tightening.

I know for a fact that the completed film won't be done until 1/21/03 so I wonder how "locked" Graeme's score is.

James

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posted 01-10-2003 09:22 AM PT (US)    ip  

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I know for a fact that the completed film won't be done until 1/21/03 so I wonder how "locked" Graeme's score is.

What does it matter? Is anyone expecting a truly amazing score?

Fox, with DAREDEVIL, seems to be eschewing Columbia's approach with SPIDER-MAN, which was make it classic, and save the songs for the end credits. I predict there will be no less then 5 songs thrashing away any instance where foot meets ass.

Ryan


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posted 01-10-2003 04:14 PM PT (US)    ip  

 plindboe
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Tons of Morricone scores could be mentioned in this thread. From 1968-1972 he composed well over 100 scores. That's nearly a score every two weeks. This period is funnily enough also where he did some of his best and most loved work.

Peter

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posted 01-10-2003 09:34 PM PT (US)    ip  

 justin boggan
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Maybe rkeaveney, but i got myselfa little theory:

FOX is not totally sure about the songs and is keeping in mind Spider-Man, so they are having Revell score the movie normally anyway. And at such time they want songs, they will reject half of his score people will have to trade for it. And your posts will say something like:

NP: Daredevil- complete sessions/ track 4, "Daredevil kicks a$$ again"

And someone will compliment you for it.

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posted 01-10-2003 10:53 PM PT (US)    ip  

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David Buttolphs very good score for the Beast from 20.000 Fathoms was done in 10 days also. Very good for something done that fast. J.

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posted 01-11-2003 04:38 PM PT (US)    ip  

 
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