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Topic: Kilar: Film Music
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Dinko

Romulan
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Naxos is doing another Kilar album. This time film music. Tracks from the Naxos site:
WOJCIECH KILAR Bram Stoker's Dracula 01. The Brides 4:24 02. The Party 2:26 03. Mina / Elizabeth 4:18 04. Vampire Hunters 3:03 05. Mina / Dracula 4:45 06. The Storm 4:11 Konig der letzten Tage 07. Intrada 3:16 08. Sanctus 3:54 09. Canzona 4:05 10. Miserere 2:39 11. Agnus Dei 2:31 12. Gloria 3:41 Death and the Maiden 13. The Confession 4:55 14. Paulina's Theme 3:43 15. Roberto's Last Chance 3:29 The Beads of One Rosary 16. The Beads of One Rosary 4:04 Pearl in the Crown 17. Cue numbers 26-27 1:43 18. Cue numbers 28 2:14 Polish State Philharmonic Orchestra (Katowice) Cracow Philharmonic Chorus Antoni Wit, conductor For all the details: http://www.naxos.com Click on 'Search Our Catalogue' at the top of the page, and type the following number: 8.225153 in the 'Catalogue Number' field.
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posted 12-18-2002 01:29 PM PT (US) ip
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OHMSS76

Romulan
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Goody....I can finally get Death & The Maiden, without having to shell out for the full album and get another recording of the Schubert again....It will be interesting to hear Dracula played on Kilar's home turf, as oppposed to the LA recording. Sean
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posted 12-18-2002 02:01 PM PT (US) ip
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dgoldwas

Romulan
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quote: Originally posted by OHMSS76: It will be interesting to hear Dracula played on Kilar's home turf, as oppposed to the LA recording.
But isn't the LA recording the "original" film recording? So... just cause it's recorded in his home country doesn't mean it will be a better recording. It might just seem like, well, a re-recording.  Dan
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posted 12-18-2002 02:17 PM PT (US) ip
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OHMSS76

Romulan
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Exactly, the LA recording - film recording under Anton Coppola will sound(I guess)somewhat different than the Polish/Wit recording....guess ya have to be into the whole 'compare one recording to another' game, eh Dinko? 
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posted 12-18-2002 02:33 PM PT (US) ip
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Dinko

Romulan
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Ya got it Seanster.It's not about which is better or original, Dan!, it's about how the Polish homies will play it. Ruskie classical music played by Ruskies is often different, from when it is played by Germans, which is different from when it is played by Brits, which is different from when it is played by Americans. Given how film music is ever more present in the classical repertoire, it's only natural to extend to film music the 'different interpretations approach' so often raised in classical music.
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posted 12-18-2002 03:57 PM PT (US) ip
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OHMSS76

Romulan
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Ding ding ding!I wonder if we'll see the day when there are, say 18 recordings of The Magnificent Seven by Bernstein, or (this is a stretch) 12 different Christus Apollos by Goldsmith. Not that we need all that, but I still get a kick out of comparing.... And our Pole pals do interpret things quite differently, at least from what I've heard, mostly from Naxos discs. Wanna have some real fun, check out the difference between the London Symphony and various Polish orchestras performing Penderecki Pretty twisted idea of fun  Sean
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posted 12-18-2002 04:16 PM PT (US) ip
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dgoldwas

Romulan
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LOL - or check out the performance of PREDATOR that the City of Prague did.<shudder> Different, certainly. Good? Not at all. Dan
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posted 12-18-2002 04:24 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK

FishChip
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Leave the Czechs out of this. There is no interest when a new Prague recording is announced. But a recording by the Poles of a Polish movie/music composer? Ya, bring it on!
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posted 12-18-2002 04:36 PM PT (US) ip
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Timmer

Romulan
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Mmmmmmm ....me want!NP : Walkabout - Barry [Message edited by Timmer on 12-18-2002]
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posted 12-18-2002 06:06 PM PT (US) ip
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BMikeJ

Romulan
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Hear, hear, Timmer... Now how does one say "me want" in Kilar's native tongue?
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posted 12-18-2002 08:58 PM PT (US) ip
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Dinko

Romulan
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"Me want" = 'Ja potrzebuje'according to http://www.poltran.com/pl.php4
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posted 12-19-2002 07:07 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

Romulan
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Sweeeet!
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posted 12-19-2002 08:21 AM PT (US) ip
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Timmer

Romulan
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quote: Originally posted by Dinko: "Me want" = 'Ja potrzebuje'according to http://www.poltran.com/pl.php4
Cool Dinko, now how do you say it? 
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posted 12-19-2002 10:20 AM PT (US) ip
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Dinko

Romulan
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I am not Polish, but my non-Polish guess would be that it is probably something like this:'Ja' = Ya 'potrzebuje' = pot(r)jebuye in which pot(r)jebuye the "r" is only slightly hinted at during the trasition from 't' to 'j', and this 'j' would be pronounced like a mix between 'z' and 'j'. Just a guess. As even Poles would have a hard time learning how to pronounce their own language.
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posted 12-19-2002 01:48 PM PT (US) ip
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JJH

Romulan
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I'm sure many know this, but I just want to point out for those that don't -- there are numerous Kilar film music compilations out there, and they are stunning. You have to look for them, but they are out there. I think Screen Archives has one right now called "The Best," or something to that effect.
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posted 12-19-2002 09:07 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

Romulan
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Here's a direct limk, by the way.[Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 12-20-2002]
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posted 12-20-2002 06:18 AM PT (US) ip
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enigmaron

Romulan
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Does anyone know where or how you can purchase this "Dracula" S.T. BY kILAR?The Marco Polo/Naxos website is hopeless in figuring out how to buy their CD's. Anybody????  NP: THE FURY (double disc set)...John Williams (SUPER...by the way. If you haven't gotten it yet, do so by all means.) [http://209.15.122.1/enigmaron/pageR/rons2.gif]
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posted 12-25-2002 12:11 AM PT (US) ip
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enigmaron

Romulan
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Does ANYONE here know how to purchase this CD, "Dracula" by Kilar??? The Marco Polo/Naxos website is impossible to figure out how to buy any of their CD's. ANYONE???? NP: THE FURY (2 disc set)...John Williams (I HIGHLY recommend this set to anyone that hasn't yet bought it.....it is SUPER!!!) [URL=http://209.15.122.1/enigmaron/pageR/rons2.gif[/URL]
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posted 12-25-2002 12:19 AM PT (US) ip
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enigmaron

Romulan
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Does anyone know where or how I can obtain this CD????There doesn't seem to be any way to order it from the Marco Polo/Naxos website. [Message edited by enigmaron on 12-25-2002]
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posted 12-25-2002 03:58 AM PT (US) ip
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JJH

Romulan
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I wonder if Peter Kelly might be persuaded to carry this title in his store...
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posted 12-25-2002 07:40 PM PT (US) ip
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Ken S

Romulan
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Why bother to do a re-recording of Kilar's dull DRACULA and NOT include THE ONLY GOOD MUSIC FROM THE MOVIE, the furious climax "pursuit" ?!!?!!These re-recording producers should be impaled. KEN
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posted 12-25-2002 07:59 PM PT (US) ip
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Dinko

Romulan
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quote: Originally posted by Ken S: These re-recording producers should be impaled.
Yeah. That's what I say most of the time Naxos puts out a CD.  (sorry! Naxos bashing just comes so naturally.)
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posted 12-25-2002 08:36 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK

FishChip
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JJassH, look closer. It's been hiding in the store since Dinko mentioned this over a week ago. JJassH.
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posted 12-26-2002 12:12 AM PT (US) ip
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Timmer

Romulan
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quote: Originally posted by Ken S: Why bother to do a re-recording of Kilar's dull DRACULA and NOT include THE ONLY GOOD MUSIC FROM THE MOVIE, the furious climax "pursuit" ?!!?!!These re-recording producers should be impaled. KEN
Yes it is a shame 'pursuit' isn't there, but Kilar's Dracula 'dull'? I couldn't disagree more!
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posted 12-26-2002 06:57 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

Romulan
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I hope it sounds better than the OST. Plus, Ken, there's more than just Dracula on this CD. 
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posted 12-26-2002 04:32 PM PT (US) ip
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JJH

Romulan
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Since WHEN am I an ass? never I tells ya!
how ironic that I, the former author of "Search Feature" forget to use the damn search feature. dagnabbit. NP --- Catch Me If You Can, Williams
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posted 12-26-2002 09:19 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterK

FishChip
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JJassH
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posted 12-26-2002 11:33 PM PT (US) ip
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JJH

Romulan
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bite me!
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posted 12-27-2002 06:06 AM PT (US) ip
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Dinko

Romulan
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The fishchip to bite the retard?  Isn't it the other way around usually?
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posted 12-27-2002 06:30 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

Romulan
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Even FishChips have to eat something, don't they?NP: Between the Buttons (The Rolling Stones)
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posted 12-27-2002 06:43 AM PT (US) ip
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Dinko

Romulan
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quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: Even FishChips have to eat something, don't they?
Well... no. http://www.theblackwhale.ca/images/fishchip.jpg They get eaten. 
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posted 12-27-2002 08:30 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

Romulan
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Yummy. But certainly, like other animals, they are fattened before being slaugthered, right?
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posted 12-27-2002 10:37 AM PT (US) ip
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Dinko

Romulan
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Guess so. But I think they would called 'fish' while in the prossess of getting hormone-full enough to be served to unsuspecting customers in smelly fish joints. As far as I know, fish chips are the finished product. ?
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posted 12-27-2002 12:08 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

Romulan
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The FishChip here does appear to still be somewhat alive.
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posted 12-28-2002 05:43 AM PT (US) ip
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Dinko

Romulan
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He's a mutant! Send in the Sentinels! 
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posted 12-28-2002 06:42 AM PT (US) ip
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Hornerfan

Romulan
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quote: Originally posted by JJH: Since WHEN am I an ass? never I tells ya!
how ironic that I, the former author of "Search Feature" forget to use the damn search feature. dagnabbit. NP --- [b]Catch Me If You Can, Williams[/B]
JJ: You are always an ass. Do not deny it! You are also a dumbass and an ass clown. So sayeth Mike. NP: Naqoyqatsi -- Philip Glass
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posted 12-28-2002 09:05 PM PT (US) ip
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