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Topic:   Jurrasic Park IV

 jburrows
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Check out the good news over at JWFan.net, John Williams has commented on working with Spielberg again for yet another JP. Looks like a very strong confirmation that Williams is scoring JP IV. This of course is in the very distant future after Indy 4 and SW:episode 3. http://www.jwfan.net/

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posted 10-16-2002 12:57 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Ohkay, more blah blah blah

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posted 10-16-2002 03:53 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by HadrianD:
Ohkay, more blah blah blah

For me it would definitely be more than just blah blah blah if he really scored it, as he didn't really interact a lot with JP III (Although Don Davis did a good job at all)

Rach

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posted 10-16-2002 06:28 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by rachmaninov:
he didn't really interact a lot with JP III

Umm... he didn't interact at all....

Dan

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posted 10-16-2002 07:31 PM PT (US)    ip  

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What the hell is left storywise for Universal to mine from JURASSIC PARK? Maybe they'll go back and film all the cool scenes from the first novel that didn't make it into the film. It'd still be a longer picture than JURASSIC III.

Ryan
NP: Steel Drum Cinema: JURASSIC PARK III, "Nash Calling" / Don Davis

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posted 10-16-2002 08:24 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Actually, he did interact with JP III. On the CD Davis says that Williams sat down with him and talked about what he would do with each scene and then Davis went from there. If you don't believe me, I think it's on the enhanced CD part.

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posted 10-16-2002 10:00 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by rkeaveney:
What the hell is left storywise for Universal to mine from JURASSIC PARK? Maybe they'll go back and film all the cool scenes from the first novel that didn't make it into the film. It'd still be a longer picture than JURASSIC III.

Ryan
NP: Steel Drum Cinema: JURASSIC PARK III, "Nash Calling" / Don Davis


Why not a small tribe of cannabal cavemen who hold the secrets to life's existence?

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posted 10-16-2002 11:27 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Personally I think a new JP movie is a really bad idea. I'm sure Spielberg and Williams can pull it off, but why not just move on to something else? Enough with the frickin' dinosours! Get some new ideas!

SFT

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posted 10-17-2002 04:22 AM PT (US)    ip  

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rkeaveney,

Universal doesn't, but famous director Steven Speilberg himself said HE had an idea and was interested in getting it done with possibly JP 3's director.
So in my opinion, when a tired series such as JP gets a famous director like Speilberg wanting to do another, then there must be something left.

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posted 10-17-2002 06:03 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by TimT:
Why not a small tribe of cannabal cavemen who hold the secrets to life's existence?

42?

NP: Henry V (Patrick Doyle)

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posted 10-17-2002 06:11 AM PT (US)    ip  

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See! Marian knows the answer!

(anyone know the question?)

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posted 10-17-2002 06:55 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by justin boggan:
So in my opinion, when a tired series such as JP gets a famous director like Speilberg wanting to do another, then there must be something left.

So you say the series is "tired", yet just cause Spielberg has an idea, it must have something left... But it's not like every idea coming from Spielberg is a good one...

Dan

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posted 10-17-2002 07:02 AM PT (US)    ip  

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I like movies with Dinosaurs. Plot be damned just give me the Dinosaurs!!!!

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posted 10-17-2002 08:13 AM PT (US)    ip  

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I gotta say, I agree a bit with Mark here. I personally have always loved dinosaurs, and just seeing them lifelike on the screen is a kick for me. I'd go for a 4th JP. Let's get an R rated one though. Raptors doing what they do best. Like in the original JP book.

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posted 10-17-2002 08:27 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by SEBULBA:
Let's get an R rated one though. Raptors doing what they do best. Like in the original JP book.

Now THAT I would pay money to see. I didn't like how all the "juicy parts" of the original book were missing from any of the films. Toss in a competent director, and there might be something there....

Dan

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posted 10-17-2002 09:01 AM PT (US)    ip  

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Isn't 42 the answer to all questions?

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posted 10-17-2002 09:59 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by TimT:
[b]Why not a small tribe of cannabal cavemen who hold the secrets to life's existence?
<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

42?

NP: Henry V (Patrick Doyle)[/B]


42 what?

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posted 10-17-2002 10:08 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by TimT:
42 what?

Tim,

Go read "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" series of books, then revisit this thread.

Dan

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posted 10-17-2002 12:52 PM PT (US)    ip  

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? You must be joking.

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posted 10-17-2002 01:39 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by TimT:
? You must be joking.

Dude, you're the one who didn't get the "42" reference.

Dan

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posted 10-17-2002 01:50 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Just ordered Hitchhicker´s Guide to the galaxy, in english of course. Marian insisted on it.

42, I will know more.

Philipp

np: the mask of zorro (james horner)

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posted 10-17-2002 02:16 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:

Umm... he didn't interact [b]at all
....

Dan[/B]


quote:
Originally posted by nightwing:
Actually, he did interact with JP III. On the CD Davis says that Williams sat down with him and talked about what he would do with each scene and then Davis went from there. If you don't believe me, I think it's on the enhanced CD part.

Thanks for the clarification! I remember I was talking with a JW fan about a year ago and he told me that Williams helped Don Davis only with previously composed material.

It's amazing all you can learn in here (As I definitely trust what you guys post such much more than what I "hear")

I'll check the enhanced CD

Rach

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posted 10-17-2002 02:19 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Philipp:
Just ordered Hitchhicker´s Guide to the galaxy, in english of course. Marian insisted on it.

I foresee you will order the remaining 4 books in the series before the year is over....


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posted 10-17-2002 02:34 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Camillu:
I foresee you will order the remaining 4 books in the series before the year is over....

Have you read Salmon of Doubt yet? It's supposed to contain the bits Adams wrote for the sixth part of the trilogy, plus other stuff that wasn't released before. I must not forget to put this on my Christmas wishlist.

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posted 10-17-2002 06:13 PM PT (US)    ip  

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I was gonna get it (mostly for the tidbits - I think half a novel will be very frustrating), but I'm waiting for the paperback version to come out, due to budgetary problems.


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posted 10-17-2002 10:44 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Camillu:
I think half a novel will be very frustrating

Hmm. But the Hitch Hiker books are rather chaotic anyway, I think it should still be quite entertaining. Unlike half of one of the Dirk Gentlys, those wouldn't make sense at all without the ending.

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posted 10-18-2002 06:20 AM PT (US)    ip  

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That's true about Dirk Gently. The giant eagle in LDTOTS didn't make sense until the very end.

As for JP 4, I never saw 3, nor did I listen to the score, but based on Williams's involvement and Spielberg's excitement, I might check 4 out.

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posted 10-22-2002 07:21 PM PT (US)    ip  

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by dgoldwas:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by SEBULBA:
[b]Let's get an R rated one though. Raptors doing what they do best. Like in the original JP book.
<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now THAT I would pay money to see. I didn't like how all the "juicy parts" of the original book were missing from any of the films. Toss in a competent director, and there might be something there....

Dan[/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Joe Johnston is a VERY competent director. Is it his fault that Universal needed to churn another JP film out and gave him a script that was sorely lacking? Blame the writers and producers NOT the director in this case. It's funny how some people think they know what competent directing is. Have you ever directed a movie, Dan? If you haven't (and I don't mean some little home movie) then I would take back that comment as it's very disrespectful.


Joe Johnston has directed QUALITY movies such as October Sky, Jumanji (yes it's a good movie) and the Rocketeer. These aren't crap movies.

[Message edited by Taylor on 10-23-2002]

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posted 10-23-2002 10:26 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Taylor:
Joe Johnston is a VERY competent director. Is it his fault that Universal needed to churn another JP film out and gave him a script that was sorely lacking? Blame the writers and producers NOT the director in this case. It's funny how some people think they know what competent directing is. Have you ever directed a movie, Dan? If you haven't (and I don't mean some little home movie) then I would take back that comment as it's very disrespectful.

What???

I never said ANYTHING about Joe Johnston, and wasn't referring to JP3 in my post. (For the record, I am a fan of Johnston's work, and even met him and had a nice chat with him.)

I was saying, for JP4 - which I feel is just a BAD IDEA IN GENERAL - if they get a good director on board, then fine - we'll see.

Do not take my words out of context and imply that I have no respect for Johnston.

(I wasn't saying ANYONE was incompetent. sheesh.)

Don't read things into my posts, and get your panties in a bunch. You'll be happier.

And no, I haven't directed a feature film. Have you? Does that make me any less qualified to have an opinion?

Dan

[Message edited by dgoldwas on 10-23-2002]

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posted 10-23-2002 10:30 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by SEBULBA:
[b]Let's get an R rated one though. Raptors doing what they do best. Like in the original JP book.
<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Toss in a competent director, and there might be something there....

Dan[/B]


Explain that comment??? If you didn't mean Johnston, then I apologize for the comment. I don't take people's comments out of context. I only commented on the way you said it. Since I CAN'T hear you saying these things, the written word can mean many things.

I apologize for the emotional outburst, but you need to clarify such comments or else they will be taken out of "context".

It's all good though

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posted 10-23-2002 10:34 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Probable:
That's true about Dirk Gently. The giant eagle in LDTOTS didn't make sense until the very end.

Probable! Where ya been!?

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posted 10-23-2002 10:35 AM PT (US)    ip  

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by dgoldwas:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Taylor:
[b]Joe Johnston is a VERY competent director. Is it his fault that Universal needed to churn another JP film out and gave him a script that was sorely lacking? Blame the writers and producers NOT the director in this case. It's funny how some people think they know what competent directing is. Have you ever directed a movie, Dan? If you haven't (and I don't mean some little home movie) then I would take back that comment as it's very disrespectful.
<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

What???

I never said ANYTHING about Joe Johnston, and wasn't referring to JP3 in my post. (For the record, I am a fan of Johnston's work, and even met him and had a nice chat with him.)

I was saying, for JP4 - which I feel is just a BAD IDEA IN GENERAL - if they get a good director on board, then fine - we'll see.

Do not take my words out of context and imply that I have no respect for Johnston.

(I wasn't saying ANYONE was incompetent. sheesh.)

Don't read things into my posts, and get your panties in a bunch. You'll be happier.

And no, I haven't directed a feature film. Have you? Does that make me any less qualified to have an opinion?

Dan

[Message edited by dgoldwas on 10-23-2002][/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

You don't have to make mean comments. I read a post of yours and called you out. If you didn't mean Joe Johnston, then I am wrong and will apologize. I read what I read.

[Message edited by Taylor on 10-23-2002]

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posted 10-23-2002 10:37 AM PT (US)    ip  

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Lemme put it plainly, then:

If someone comes up with a sh*tty idea for a film (and I have seen two stinkers in the past two days), and feels it NEEDS to be made, then it would HELP if the director is competent enough to pull it off, and hopefully bring it above the level of sewage that the writers originally submitted.

Now that doesn't ALWAYS work, of course. I saw THE TRUTH ABOUT CHARLIE last night. Jonathan Demme is a competent director. But the movie was bad. In this case, though, I DO blame him cause he was one of the 283 writers on it.

Dan

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posted 10-23-2002 10:37 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Taylor:
You don't have to make mean comments. I read a post of yours and called you out. If you didn't mean Joe Johnston, then I am wrong and will apologize. I read what I read.

Where did I make mean comments? I never started questioning your credentials to call anyone competent.

"So when did you stop beating your wife?"

Dan

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posted 10-23-2002 10:38 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Lemme put it plainly, then:

If someone comes up with a sh*tty idea for a film (and I have seen two stinkers in the past two days), and feels it NEEDS to be made, then it would HELP if the director is competent enough to pull it off, and hopefully bring it above the level of sewage that the writers originally submitted.

Now that doesn't ALWAYS work, of course. I saw THE TRUTH ABOUT CHARLIE last night. Jonathan Demme is a competent director. But the movie was bad. In this case, though, I DO blame him cause he was one of the 283 writers on it.

Dan


I accept that. Fair enough. I enjoy Demme's films and have to say I am leery of this one. Who knows, everybody has differing opinions on movies as it is. The last JP movie sucked. It was definitely a visual thrill ride, but with no feeling or character development. I can't blame Mr. Johnston for a well made visual film. I blame Crichton and the other 3 writers on this one (and who knows how many others).

Sorry again if you felt slighted by my reply. I was only replying to a comment you had made about competent directors on the possible JP IV.

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posted 10-23-2002 10:41 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Taylor:
Sorry again if you felt slighted by my reply. I was only replying to a comment you had made about competent directors on the possible JP IV.

No worries - glad we cleared it all up.

As for JP IV, we'll see. If it's a good script, then that's a start.....

Dan

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posted 10-23-2002 10:43 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
"So when did you stop beating your wife?"
Dan

When she called the cops.


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posted 10-23-2002 10:43 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Taylor:
[b]Joe Johnston is a VERY competent director. Is it his fault that Universal needed to churn another JP film out and gave him a script that was sorely lacking? Blame the writers and producers NOT the director in this case. It's funny how some people think they know what competent directing is. Have you ever directed a movie, Dan? If you haven't (and I don't mean some little home movie) then I would take back that comment as it's very disrespectful.
<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't read things into my posts, and get your panties in a bunch. You'll be happier.

And no, I haven't directed a feature film. Have you? Does that make me any less qualified to have an opinion?

[Message edited by dgoldwas on 10-23-2002][/B]


Well this does seem to be a missive of anger directed at me. Mean, maybe not, but then again, maybe I did deserve it. I don't wear panties and I have never made a feature film.

Can we kiss and make up now? I do apologize for my misundertanding of your original post.


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posted 10-23-2002 10:45 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Taylor:
[b]Sorry again if you felt slighted by my reply. I was only replying to a comment you had made about competent directors on the possible JP IV.
<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

No worries - glad we cleared it all up.

As for JP IV, we'll see. If it's a good script, then that's a start.....

Dan[/B]


Thanks for the understanding

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posted 10-23-2002 10:57 AM PT (US)    ip  

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My main problem with JP3 was the visual stuff, I thought the dinosaurs just weren't realistic as in the other movies. The one scene that especially got me was when the Brachiosaurus leans over the water, it looked completely fake and I almost laughed. Also, there was just way too much action without any room to breathe. Don't get me wrong, I love action movies, but this was just way too much stuffed into a small time and no let ups.

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