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Marselus Wizard	If I´m not mistaken, "The Ring" opens in the US October the 18th....but I don´t have any news about Zimmer´s score for this film......well, I know Jim Dooley is composing additional music for Hans, but that´s not a knew, isn´t it? :P If somebody has listened something of The Ring music, please share with us your thoughts. See You!
posted 09-27-2002 04:18 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Wizard	The new trailer is really interesting, check out apple.com. --Brian
posted 09-27-2002 04:59 PM PT (US)

madono_x Muggle	Anyone knows something about Zimmer's the ring????? Pleaseeeeeee record label..tracklist... Thanks Np:Pearl harbor complet version....jajaja it's a joke!
posted 10-02-2002 02:11 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Wizard	Do we even know if its getting released? --Brian
posted 10-02-2002 02:26 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	Right now there is NO score release planned. If one happens, it would be later, probably around the time of the home video release, and would be coupled with another Zimmer score. Dan
posted 10-02-2002 03:36 PM PT (US)

MarkA Wizard	Coupled with another Zimmer score? Like what?
posted 10-02-2002 04:09 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	quote: Originally posted by MarkA: Coupled with another Zimmer score? Like what? I don't remember - it was something older and unreleased. Maybe THE HOUSE OF THE SPIRITS or something like it..... Dan
posted 10-02-2002 06:18 PM PT (US)

Kosh Wizard	Hey, maybe those brilliant marketing execs will bring forth an equally brilliant solution! Maybe they'll release Zimmer's THE RING and Shore's THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS as a dual CD package! I mean, they're both about rings, riiiight? Kosh (who thinks, after all, that score music is score music... it's all the same, really... there's like an orchestra... and notes....)
posted 10-02-2002 06:54 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Wizard	I don't know if the music in some of the TV Spots is the score, but it sounded like track 7 from Hannibal slowed down or remixed... Anyway, I hope this is a great score and gets a great release... Clayton NP>M:I-2
posted 10-02-2002 08:51 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	quote: Originally posted by scoreguy16: I don't know if the music in some of the TV Spots is the score, but it sounded like track 7 from Hannibal slowed down or remixed... Anyway, I hope this is a great score and gets a great release... I think that was indeed from the score (which was recorded with "the Hannibal orchestra" - all celli and violas). Dan
posted 10-02-2002 11:20 PM PT (US)

Richard Street Wizard	quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: I don't remember - it was something older and unreleased. Maybe THE HOUSE OF THE SPIRITS or something like it..... HOUSE OF THE SPIRITS was definitely released, I think by Virgin. Runs 43:33, including a song.
posted 10-03-2002 07:01 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	quote: Originally posted by Richard Street: HOUSE OF THE SPIRITS was definitely released, I think by Virgin. Runs 43:33, including a song. Ah ok - my bad. Well, it's something else. That much I'm pretty sure about. Dan
posted 10-03-2002 07:09 AM PT (US)

Quill Wizard	Just like to add that the House of Spirits is an excellent score. Near the top of the list in my Zimmer collection. Not that it matters are has anything to do with The Ring...
posted 10-03-2002 08:26 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Wizard	It's kinda surprising knowing that Hans' score won't be release for a while, if not at all, seeing how it's a big release for Dreamwork and all.
posted 10-03-2002 02:42 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	3 juice score clips from THE RING are up at Jim Dooley's website: http://www.jimdooley.com/ Dan
posted 10-21-2002 07:36 AM PT (US)

MarkA Wizard	Still no score release ?????
posted 10-21-2002 09:11 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Wizard	This movie was GREAT!. Saw it 4 nights ago. Great movie, with sparse and GREAT use of music. Not much of a theme is "present" but lots of interesting work and soundscape. A passage from Hannibal was used, you know the one you heard in the trailer, but different orchestration as well as bing slower and more deliberate. Everything from the horse ranch on was GREAT!. I hope this movie get some 100mil box office draw so that all of Hans' score would be released easier. Did I mention that this movie and its score is great! Everything work
posted 10-21-2002 09:50 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	quote: Originally posted by HadrianD: Not much of a theme is "present" but lots of interesting work and soundscape. A passage from Hannibal was used, you know the one you heard in the trailer, but different orchestration as well as bing slower and more deliberate. Well, there are a few themes in the score.... did you listen to the clips? Dan
posted 10-21-2002 10:02 AM PT (US)

Rich Douglas Wizard	ummmmm.... who is jim dooley? He sounds exactly like zimmer. Is he with media ventures? Rich
posted 10-21-2002 10:50 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	quote: Originally posted by Rich Douglas: ummmmm.... who is jim dooley? He sounds exactly like zimmer. Is he with media ventures? Hey Rich, here's a genius suggestion. How about you go look at his website and read up on him? Sheesh. Dan
posted 10-21-2002 10:52 AM PT (US)

Rich Douglas Wizard	nevermind.. I answered my own question, he does in fact work for MV. Damnit! Does Zimmer ACTUALLY score anything anymore or do just his apprentices score it for him so they can get their music out there with his name slapped on the film. Apparently, this dooley guy (who is knew to me anyway) did music for an everlasting piece, spirit, and riding in cars with boys (all supposedly "Zimmer" films). This just pisses me off. I want to actually hear Zimmer when his name is slapped on the credits. The one positive note however is that the clips from "the ring" are actually the ones I was wanting to get my hands on. Rich
posted 10-21-2002 11:01 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	Rich, why are you so pissed off? Zimmer wrote the score for THE RING, and additional music was written by Jim and two other guys, to help out when the post-production schedule got crammed. Everyone is credited appropriately in the film credits. Unlike some other composers who use ghostwriters heavily - without crediting them - Zimmer gives everyone the credit they deserve. What's so wrong with that? And Rich, read the IMDB credits a little more closely. Jim was Zimmer's assistant on "Everlasting Piece" and "Riding in Cars With Boys", as well as others. Dan [Message edited by dgoldwas on 10-21-2002]
posted 10-21-2002 11:10 AM PT (US)

Rich Douglas Wizard	ooooooooo.... my bad Dan. I guess i should have checked out goold ole IMDB before posting. Sometimes I do wonder if Zimmer uses his name to get some of his composers' music into films though (like Badelt). Rich
posted 10-21-2002 11:42 AM PT (US)

pietari Wizard	Sounds great, like a slightly darker Hannibal. A question: what is the extent of Dooley`s involvement in these compositions as the clips from Spirit utilise large parts of what I thought to be one of Zimmer`s main themes for the film? Is it a similar route to what Davis did with Williams` themes for Jurassic Park III; adapting thematic material around his original score pieces, or has Dooley actually come up with some of the themes himself? [Message edited by pietari on 10-21-2002]
posted 10-21-2002 12:34 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Wizard	I hadn't gotten around to listen to the sound clips...But I was just referring to what I "heard" while watching the movie. Though I did notice one prominent bass theme that I really like. I'll go download the clips now. I DLed all of JD's clip when the site first came online.
posted 10-21-2002 05:24 PM PT (US)

JJH Wizard	saw the movie a couple days ago. wonderful. that music was damned good, too -- and you all have an inkling at just how much praise that is coming from me. Many lesser scorse than this get releases while good ones suffer. ah well, eventually. NP -- Hook, Williams
posted 10-21-2002 07:40 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Wizard	Well, the theme that I was thinking of is not there, but the Hannibal style cue is there. Which pretty much reinforce my theory that Hans doesn't deal with "quoting" his own stuff, but leave it to his proteges. Lighthouse Music is a too much of an meandering underscore, but the Overboard cue hint at JD as a pretty interesting composer to look forward to... I do wish for a nice release of the score soon.
posted 10-21-2002 09:31 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Wizard	quote: Originally posted by HadrianD: I DLed all of JD's clip when the site first came online. Ahh - you're the culprit!! lol Dan
posted 10-21-2002 09:55 PM PT (US)

GrizzlyMV Wizard	Just saw the movie an hour ago. There's not that much music in the movie which is good. The movie is good and the suspence is there. ;-) Now, for the music itself, the "Hannibal" like cue is in the movie only at 2 places...the rest of the music is mostly a soft piano theme with sometime a violin in the background. No memorable themes there, but the music fit the images of the movie I think. ;-) And for the person who said that Zimmer give the "quoting" job to his proteges, why not saying that maybe Dooley did that "Hannibal cue" in Hannibal and decided to "reuse" it in The Ring? Like Nick Glennie-Smith did for The Rock and The Man In The Iron Mask. But that's just my opinion. ;-) Regards
posted 10-24-2002 07:46 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Wizard	quote: Originally posted by GrizzlyMV: And for the person who said that Zimmer give the "quoting" job to his proteges, why not saying that maybe Dooley did that "Hannibal cue" in Hannibal and decided to "reuse" it in The Ring? Like Nick Glennie-Smith did for The Rock and The Man In The Iron Mask. But that's just my opinion. ;-) Regards Um, because Hans actually wrote the original The Rock theme... And with regard to the issue about proteges....It has been my experience that when Hans parses out the workload, he has to first establish the sound to be used, thus the need to use the themes that he already used...Just look at Time Machine, Jim Dooley wrote the "First Flight" cue but uses Klaus's theme. Hans has been known to reinterpret sub themes from his previous score and fleshes them out in his later scores...Now, it just seems that he's not interested in that anymore..
posted 10-25-2002 12:44 AM PT (US)

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